[RoShamBo]

^It's all good, I expect our boys to put in the work necessary to be back in this game again next season and then we will be hosting.

[Hatz]

Neutral site is not ten miles down the road. Here is an example. Guthrie OK is playing McAlester Ok for semis. The distance between schools is 155 miles. They are playing in Sapulpa Ok. McAlester to Sapulpa is 84 miles and Guthrie to Sapulpa is 77 miles.... Which makes it a neutral site.

What is with all this "Neutral Site" talk????? Who in the world thought the semi's should/would/or ought to be played on a neutral field?????

Odd numbered Regions host in Odd numbered years.

Even in Even numbered years.

:HitWall:

[RoShamBo]

What is with all this "Neutral Site" talk????? Who in the world thought the semi's should/would/or ought to be played on a neutral field?????

Odd numbered Regions host in Odd numbered years.

Even in Even numbered years.

:HitWall:

Has always been that way correct? Only been in KY since the 90's is why I ask.

[Stardust]

Neutral site is not ten miles down the road. Here is an example. Guthrie OK is playing McAlester Ok for semis. The distance between schools is 155 miles. They are playing in Sapulpa Ok. McAlester to Sapulpa is 84 miles and Guthrie to Sapulpa is 77 miles.... Which makes it a neutral site.

C'mon, seriously???

I did not see a single complaint nor comment that there should have been a Neutral site in the games against Betsy Layne, Danville or Lexington Christian. We get to the Semi-Finals, for rules that have been in place a while, and now it's an issue?

So the rest of Somerset fans feel this way?

[RoShamBo]

C'mon, seriously???

I did not see a single complaint nor comment that there should have been a Neutral site in the games against Betsy Layne, Danville or Lexington Christian. We get to the Semi-Finals, for rules that have been in place a while, and now it's an issue?

So the rest of Somerset fans feel this way?

Don't make that assumption. I know the rules I played under the same ones and I had my senior year end several hours from home also, no complaints. But just for the sake of sticking up for one of my fellow Somerset fans, we should have neutral site games in the semifinals. :biggrin:

[Indianfan56]

That was a good win last night HC, this is one proud alumni. I'm very proud of how they played like a complete unit.

[Can you dig it?]

C'mon, seriously???

I did not see a single complaint nor comment that there should have been a Neutral site in the games against Betsy Layne, Danville or Lexington Christian. We get to the Semi-Finals, for rules that have been in place a while, and now it's an issue?

So the rest of Somerset fans feel this way?

No, I think it's just one confused newbie.hh:

[briarjumperfan]

It doesn't matter if I am a newbie to this site. I have been a moderator for other sites. I was just asking what happen to neutral sites. I did not realize that in Ky that was a neutral site or how the even host the odds etc. I asked a simple question and then explained my question in another post.

It doesn't just mean for this game I mean for all semi state games. It was a question.... Thanks for "explaining" and making a "newbie" feel welcomed. I will go back to just reading all of the mens comments and keep my questions to myself.

[RoShamBo]

It doesn't matter if I am a newbie to this site. I have been a moderator for other sites. I was just asking what happen to neutral sites. I did not realize that in Ky that was a neutral site or how the even host the odds etc. I asked a simple question and then explained my question in another post.

It doesn't just mean for this game I mean for all semi state games. It was a question.... Thanks for "explaining" and making a "newbie" feel welcomed. I will go back to just reading all of the mens comments and keep my questions to myself.

Don't sweat it, and I get what you were saying you are right there are states that do it like that. There are a lot of self proclaimed experts and gurus on here, you can't let them get to you.

[toussaints]

In response to all the bickering about both fans and how the game ended. Both sides were wrong in their behavior at times. Yes, some HC fans got pretty cocky when HC went up a couple scores, Yes, there were Somerset fans arguing with HC fans, and yes, some Somerset players lost their composure at the end of the game. And yes, there were a couple HC players that responded to the unsportsman like conduct from Somerset. It wasn't pretty, but there is NO REASON for any of that behavior from either side.

I was down on the field for most of the game and as a HC alumni and former football player, I was just really excited to see my program go somewhere its never been. The whole atmosphere was incredible. I remember when we beat NCC my senior year in the regular season and we acted like we won the super bowl. Not because we won, but we did something that meant so much to the entire program, we didn't know what else to do. I disagree when people say act like you've been there before, let the players and coaches celebrate cause they deserve it. If Somerset won, I wouldn't complain if they jumped around all over the field, they would've deserved it. It's not being cocky, it's having fun and being happy, what's wrong with that?

And as far as a neutral site, when the home team picks the site, it's not a neutral field. And i like what Kentucky does as far as the playoff sites are set up. It makes ticket prices cheaper and allows both schools to make more money. We could do what they do in Ohio and split the difference in distance. Im up here in Dayton watching my cousin play for Cincy St.X and the ticket price was $10.

[RoShamBo]

I didn't care about the players and fans celebrating I wouldn't expect any different. I just didn't like the way some fans were standing behind our bench telling our team to warm the buses and enjoy the long ride home. I didn't see any Somerset fans threatening your players but if they were then that is not cool either. When I said to act like you've been there before I meant to celebrate with your team and not try to make the other team's fans as upset as you possibly can. Like I said I have no problem with how the HC coaches and players treated the win. Just a few fans.

[toussaints]

I didn't care about the players and fans celebrating I wouldn't expect any different. I just didn't like the way some fans were standing behind our bench telling our team to warm the buses and enjoy the long ride home. I didn't see any Somerset fans threatening your players but if they were then that is not cool either. When I said to act like you've been there before I meant to celebrate with your team and not try to make the other team's fans as upset as you possibly can. Like I said I have no problem with how the HC coaches and players treated the win. Just a few fans.

ah the fans behind Somerset's bench up in the parking lot. Unfortunately I can see that happening. A lot of tailgaters up there, a good amount of alcohol up there.

In that case, as a HC alumni, former player, and fan, I apologize for their behavior. I'm not a big fan of the "beer garten" when you mix in fans that don't know how to act at high school games.

[RoShamBo]

ah the fans behind Somerset's bench up in the parking lot. Unfortunately I can see that happening. A lot of tailgaters up there, a good amount of alcohol up there.

In that case, as a HC alumni, former player, and fan, I apologize for their behavior. I'm not a big fan of the "beer garten" when you mix in fans that don't know how to act at high school games.

No worries. Every fanbase has them and it's in the past.

[Norm Peterson]

ah the fans behind Somerset's bench up in the parking lot. Unfortunately I can see that happening. A lot of tailgaters up there, a good amount of alcohol up there.

In that case, as a HC alumni, former player, and fan, I apologize for their behavior. I'm not a big fan of the "beer garten" when you mix in fans that don't know how to act at high school games.

They were yelling a lot worse stuff than just "warm up the bus" and they were drunk as well. I'm not excusing the personal fouls on our team's part but it is hard enough to have your season or high school career end without being taunted by a bunch of drunk adults. With emotions running that high it is easy to see how the frustration was taken out on the opponent rather than the adults that they couldn't control. I was assured by Crossback that they were not Holy Cross fans but just some locals who were rooting for a local team and I believe him. After about 3 1/2 quarters they were finally ran off by the police. Congrats to Holy Cross and good luck next week.

[FREE AGENT]

They were yelling a lot worse stuff than just "warm up the bus" and they were drunk as well. I'm not excusing the personal fouls on our team's part but it is hard enough to have your season or high school career end without being taunted by a bunch of drunk adults. With emotions running that high it is easy to see how the frustration was taken out on the opponent rather than the adults that they couldn't control. I was assured by Crossback that they were not Holy Cross fans but just some locals who were rooting for a local team and I believe him. After about 3 1/2 quarters they were finally ran off by the police. Congrats to Holy Cross and good luck next week.

Being close to that area they were from a rival high school, beat the week before, wishing their team was playing that week. Congrats Somerset on a good year, and good luck to HC next week.

[Crossback]

ah the fans behind Somerset's bench up in the parking lot. Unfortunately I can see that happening. A lot of tailgaters up there, a good amount of alcohol up there.

In that case, as a HC alumni, former player, and fan, I apologize for their behavior. I'm not a big fan of the "beer garten" when you mix in fans that don't know how to act at high school games.

not to stur things but to correct. It was not fans from the top of the parking lot at all. It was a group from I am not sure where. The fans from up top are good supports of football, maybe not Holy Cross or Somerset but of football and they do not belong in this conversation.

[Crossback]

They were yelling a lot worse stuff than just "warm up the bus" and they were drunk as well. I'm not excusing the personal fouls on our team's part but it is hard enough to have your season or high school career end without being taunted by a bunch of drunk adults. With emotions running that high it is easy to see how the frustration was taken out on the opponent rather than the adults that they couldn't control. I was assured by Crossback that they were not Holy Cross fans but just some locals who were rooting for a local team and I believe him. After about 3 1/2 quarters they were finally ran off by the police. Congrats to Holy Cross and good luck next week.

Just to add again. The people in reference were not the fans on the parking lot hill side. It was an idividual group that was hanging out in the tennis courts. The fans on the hillside parking lot are good football suporters and do not deserve this bad publicity. I know a lot of them and they support, teach, and live for youth and High School footall. They would not treat any football atmosphere this way. I want to make sure this is known.

[Hatz]

Has always been that way correct? Only been in KY since the 90's is why I ask.

Yes.

[Norm Peterson]

Just to add again. The people in reference were not the fans on the parking lot hill side. It was an idividual group that was hanging out in the tennis courts. The fans on the hillside parking lot are good football suporters and do not deserve this bad publicity. I know a lot of them and they support, teach, and live for youth and High School footall. They would not treat any football atmosphere this way. I want to make sure this is known.

Yes, I was talking about the fans sitting right by the fence on the basketball courts, not the ones up top.

[Crossback]

Yes, I was talking about the fans sitting right by the fence on the basketball courts, not the ones up top.

I know you were Norm I justwant to make sure the readers are not confussed.

[nky]

Nice going Holy Cross looks like you did FINE

[toussaints]

Yes, I was talking about the fans sitting right by the fence on the basketball courts, not the ones up top.

ah i got you, my bad.

[playtowin]

Not to bring up any bad memories for anyone but if you watch this video when it clips to Somerset's Coach Lucas at the beginning, see what he has to say...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyqCiH6ea...dded#at=83

I don't know the details but I know that prior to the game starting, during warm ups, HC's coach pulled a not so classy move... When Somerset's players were warming up and a ball rolled onto HC's side of the field (when don't opposing teams warmup punts/kickoffs roll around??) he grabbed the football, PUNTED it into the stands and threw curse words around at the Somerset players.

I know it does not need to be discussed but it was an interesting move for a coach to make... Seemed about as classless as the fans in the stands and behind the Somerset bench. Winning or losing, besides the packed crowd, the environment was anything but pleasant.

[Forever Maroon]

If you have ever had the opportunity to talk with Coach Lucas more than 30 seconds, you know what kind of man he is. Somerset hit a grand slam with that fine man. Not a Jumper fan by any stretch but, I have nothing but respect for Coach Lucas and the way he runs a program. CLASS!

[RoShamBo]

^I saw the incident. The Somerset kicker probably shouldn't have been kicking in that direction but it didn't hit any of the Holy Cross players. He was warming up before Holy Cross lined up to stretch also. I don't know what the coach said, but just based on what I saw which was the ball kicked by the Somerset kicker towards the Holy Cross players, it bouncing in front of them, and then him picking the ball up and punting it into the Somerset cheerleaders. I think he kind of made an ass of himself from my perspective.

[Norm Peterson]

Hey--everyone on the field that night saw that including Crossback and Tousaints. It was uncalled for but it happened. Holy Cross was better that night and there are no excuses on our part. However, I hope that the Indian fans can see that some of the blame for the ending to the game rests on their fans and their coach. I will never excuse my team for a personal foul or unsportsmanlike conduct penalty and I only had to call my son down for one over his career, however, just because you have the best team doesn't mean you are blameless. Holy Cross does need to learn how to win with class. They should win the state championship this week, hopefully they will be more gracious in victory then they were last week.

[toussaints]

Hey--everyone on the field that night saw that including Crossback and Tousaints. It was uncalled for but it happened. Holy Cross was better that night and there are no excuses on our part. However, I hope that the Indian fans can see that some of the blame for the ending to the game rests on their fans and their coach. I will never excuse my team for a personal foul or unsportsmanlike conduct penalty and I only had to call my son down for one over his career, however, just because you have the best team doesn't mean you are blameless. Holy Cross does need to learn how to win with class. They should win the state championship this week, hopefully they will be more gracious in victory then they were last week.

And I'm not making excuses for our team's behavior, you're right HC did things that were unsportsmanlike, and yes Holy Cross should win with class, but all teams need to learn to win and lose with class. There was no excuse for fans on both sides wanting to fight each other, there is no excuse for players taking cheap shots after a play. Hopefully HC learns from this, as does Somerset, and become better for it.

Now I don't see a reason to keep this subject going. What's happened has happened and apologies won't change what happened. Maybe HC was a little too cocky about the win, maybe Somerset was bitter about the loss, I don't care either way, it's in the past, so let's leave it there. And if we do play eachother in the future, hopefully we all behave a lot better.

[tooth doc]

HC asked a Somerset coach 3 times for his kicker to kick the other way because the ball was going into our line up. The coach laughed all 3 times and said no. Thats why Koz reacted the way he did. The Somerset coach laughing and saying No about not kicking into the HC players was the classless part first. Koz got that coach's attention. Whether it was right or wrong. Im sick of everyone acting like their were unsportsmanlike things HC players were doing. They handled the situation very well when cheap shots were flowing. I didn't see the fans, so I cant speak for them but lets get real here. Somerset coach's attitude set the tone. Not everyone knows this

[Crossback]

I have a lot of coments that could be added to this but I will keep them to myself. I spent the entire game on Somersets side lines so I can assure you it was not very pleasant, but we need to let it go.
I do hope we get a chance to play again in the future, which will mean that we have both had succesful seasons and productive off seasons.

[Goldendomer57]

Knowing Koz there is no way he would have kicked the ball away if it was the FIRST time it had happened. If he did ask the coach for the kicker to kick in the other directon and they continued to kick into the HC players I have no doubt or problem with Koz kicking the ball into the stands.