(rumor) players transfering

red_bull · 03-28-2011, 11:12 AM

Shane Hall of johnson central and Trevor Tiller of paintsville was transfering to sheldon clark. Are there any truth to this? This is the rumors going around at sheldon clark high.

Darth Vader · 03-28-2011, 11:39 AM

I've heard the same rumor don't know if there is any truth in it though

Dashiprock · 03-28-2011, 01:45 PM

only place ive heard tiller is going is to louisville trinity.
no word on hall though

Trouble · 03-28-2011, 01:56 PM

Dashiprock Wrote:only place ive heard tiller is going is to louisville trinity.
no word on hall though

I don't understand that move. At best, he'll be the 3rd best junior on that team.

Former Cheerleader · 03-28-2011, 10:57 PM

Tiller has visited Louisville and talked to coaches from what I hear about town. I heard that Shane Hall was going back to Prestonsburg now that Pack is out. His family is from Floyd County

Dashiprock · 03-29-2011, 01:51 AM

Trouble Wrote:I don't understand that move. At best, he'll be the 3rd best junior on that team.

me either at first, but might give him more chance to be looked at there when hes a senior.

LClion4life · 03-29-2011, 08:46 AM

Trouble Wrote:I don't understand that move. At best, he'll be the 3rd best junior on that team.

Maybe he wants to win?

9-POINT · 03-29-2011, 09:58 AM

LClion4life Wrote:Maybe he wants to win?

It has nothing to do about winning if u ask me. its a self centered move, "he apparently hasent had fun playing paintsville ball"

9-POINT · 03-29-2011, 09:59 AM

And as for Hall, heard nothing about this rumor but will find info on it quick

Dashiprock · 03-29-2011, 10:15 AM

9-POINT Wrote:It has nothing to do about winning if u ask me. its a self centered move, "he apparently hasent had fun playing paintsville ball"

i agree, but where did you quote the last part from?

9-POINT · 03-29-2011, 10:17 PM

heard through the grapevine...his father said he wasent having funny

Dashiprock · 03-29-2011, 11:37 PM

heard today from a good source that both were going to SC.

Yota · 03-30-2011, 12:04 AM

with bj moore returning the cards should have a good year

**OffTheHook** · 03-30-2011, 01:22 AM

Dashiprock Wrote:heard today from a good source that both were going to SC.

Yeah...the KHSAA will ok that move...:eyeroll:. OH wait, they did ok the Devon Adams move a few years ago didn't they. Never mind.
Should raise a few eye brows though by them leaving two of the BETTER Academic Schools in EKY to go to SCHS.....Sure NOT a Sport related move there is it...:please:. HECK might as well give Mike Terry a call at Fairview as well. If you're gonna recruit...GO BIG!

If they are real serious and want to go to the next level....Go towards Lexington and stay out the 15th.

I personally am tired of hearing this crap. NOT one of these boys are gonna make a living playing Basketball. Plain and simple. BUT, BOTH could stay right were they are, get a good education, get a basketball scholarship and end up two successful young men.

Yes we daddys love our sons. But, a lot need to take the blinders off and deal with the truth that is right in front of us.

I love Tiller and his family. I want him to stay at Paintsville and so does his team mates. But, if he goes...he goes. Life will go on and the ones that stay will get a top notch eduction and still play the game they love, for the team and school they love.

LClion4life · 03-30-2011, 04:32 PM

How do you know they won't make a living playing basketball? That's a pretty narrow-minded statement considering that their bodies still have maturing to do. You never can tell. Maybe both of them play college ball and find a spot overseas on a team. You just never know on that. Both have good potential and will probably be two of the best players in the 15th next year.

kai · 03-30-2011, 04:47 PM

I agree with LC. Off the Hook got a little to much anger in his statement, must be Paintsville blue blood. Going to Lexington is not going to help the kid if they blend in with 10 just like themselves. They have much better chance to be notices and standout if they stay in 15th or area. With the recent run our area is getting just as much respect as anywhere else. The key is the must advance themselves in AAU summer program, if not they will b left behind and miss opportunities to be seen. However, I just as soon they stay where they are at, hate to see young men abandon their teammates.

Trouble · 03-30-2011, 05:29 PM

LClion4life Wrote:How do you know they won't make a living playing basketball? That's a pretty narrow-minded statement considering that their bodies still have maturing to do. You never can tell. Maybe both of them play college ball and find a spot overseas on a team. You just never know on that. Both have good potential and will probably be two of the best players in the 15th next year.

Because that happens ALL THE TIME!:eyeroll: Please catch a clue.
There's nothing wrong with being argumentative, but at least try to refrain from absurd remarks, they don't help your stance. I'm sure that both are leaving their respective schools because they think their shot at basketball as a profession would be enhanced elsewhere. Please.

LClion4life · 03-30-2011, 05:44 PM

I'm just saying. It could happen. And how is that absurd? Did you catch the "maybe" in that sentence? It's probably the biggest part of my argument. He's the one that said "NOT one of those boys will make a living playing basketball." Like he already has these boys' futures planned out for them. They have just as good a chance to do that as anybody else does. Considering that neither of them are even 17 yet. Why don't you "catch a clue."

**OffTheHook** · 03-30-2011, 07:07 PM

LClion4life Wrote:How do you know they won't make a living playing basketball? That's a pretty narrow-minded statement considering that their bodies still have maturing to do. You never can tell. Maybe both of them play college ball and find a spot overseas on a team. You just never know on that. Both have good potential and will probably be two of the best players in the 15th next year.

"Narrow minded"...This would come from you. I hope I'm wrong. But, face the facts man. I have witnessed at least 20 kids in the 16th and 15th that would run rings around either of these kids and were are they now?

And NO I'm not speaking out of anger. I just don't have the blinders on that I spoke of. If they are that good. They will be found no matter where they play. I am one of the BIGGEST supporters of EKY kids that you will EVER meet. So don't throw out childish comments when you have zero clue as to who you are speaking about.

And just for your info...if I'm not mistaken Tiller is 17.

Dashiprock · 03-30-2011, 07:25 PM

i would consider the fact of the boys' move because of a chance to create a team that had a good chance to make it to rupp. IE Johnson Central. everyone knew they had a great chance but in some eyes including mine they had not enough team but more of ME players. also lacked a sturdy coach. but it comes to my attention that SC would have moore, johnson, hall, and tiller then this would fall under the category of that scenario. players with that talent want to actually be the best and are unable to do that playing in places where they carry most of the load.

Former Cheerleader · 03-30-2011, 09:30 PM

Very good and well said.

Former Cheerleader · 03-30-2011, 09:36 PM

Lets see. How many thought J. V Vanhoose, Landon Slone would do great things? The only players that I can think of that had gon one to make a name for themselves with basketball from the 15 are John Pelphery and now Elijah Justice in the last 25 years. Statictally the chances of any child unless they are a stand out by their freshman year or so are very slim. Education is where it is. Do not get me wrong tiller is a good player maybe NAIA or Division II. I think an eduation is much more important. I would much rather my child graduate from Paintsville than SCHS. Just look at the scores. All around bad decision.

9-POINT · 03-30-2011, 09:57 PM

transfer or not its their families decision so everyone quit complaining. and btw this is an athletic site not a college night class.

Trouble · 03-30-2011, 10:12 PM

LClion4life Wrote:I'm just saying. It could happen. And how is that absurd? Did you catch the "maybe" in that sentence? It's probably the biggest part of my argument. He's the one that said "NOT one of those boys will make a living playing basketball." Like he already has these boys' futures planned out for them. They have just as good a chance to do that as anybody else does. Considering that neither of them are even 17 yet. Why don't you "catch a clue."

And there again, you'd be wrong. Italy here they come.

bball2195 · 03-30-2011, 10:14 PM

With Moore, Kirk, Johnson, Hall and Tiller SC would be a very good team to represent
the 15th region.

9-POINT · 03-30-2011, 10:46 PM

i feel hall would be a better ball player if he would get his hair out of his eyes and get a haircut lol

Dashiprock · 03-30-2011, 11:20 PM

bball2195 Wrote:With Moore, Kirk, Johnson, Hall and Tiller SC would be a very good team to represent
the 15th region.

ah yes kirk was the one i was missing, but very true.
i realize a big issue is education. besides it being a factor the moves if any is going to be based on making a run to rupp not for college offers etc. wherever the boys decide to go or possibly stay i wish them best of luck.
most importantly id like to see tiller and moore back in action next year regardless of transferring or not.

schsalum · 03-31-2011, 04:06 PM

i agree, moore and tiller need to play somewhere. Both players have more than enough talent to get a full ride to a good school. As far as making a living playing basketball, i think these kids should be worrying about getting a scholorship first. I would love to see Tiller and Hall come to SCHS but i just dont see it happening. In my experience at sheldon clark, most good players leave and i cant remember us ever getting someone to come here. Maybe times are changing though. lets hope

Dashiprock · 03-31-2011, 06:31 PM

schsalum Wrote:i agree, moore and tiller need to play somewhere. Both players have more than enough talent to get a full ride to a good school. As far as making a living playing basketball, i think these kids should be worrying about getting a scholorship first. I would love to see Tiller and Hall come to SCHS but i just dont see it happening. In my experience at sheldon clark, most good players leave and i cant remember us ever getting someone to come here. Maybe times are changing though. lets hope

excellent coach as well. with a group of boys like sc has with an additional tiller and hall sc will be my favorite to win the 15th, if and i mean if the rumors are true. still yet to see some sources on here deny it.

Pupaw · 03-31-2011, 10:02 PM

Former Cheerleader Wrote:Lets see. How many thought J. V Vanhoose, Landon Slone would do great things? The only players that I can think of that had gon one to make a name for themselves with basketball from the 15 are John Pelphery and now Elijah Justice in the last 25 years. Statictally the chances of any child unless they are a stand out by their freshman year or so are very slim. Education is where it is. Do not get me wrong tiller is a good player maybe NAIA or Division II. I think an eduation is much more important. I would much rather my child graduate from Paintsville than SCHS. Just look at the scores. All around bad decision.

JR VanHoose was an All American Nominee at Marshall, and led the nation in double-doubles his senior year. He is now playing professional basketball for the East Ky Energy. Keith Adkins (c/o '88 PHS) played at Notre Dame and UNC Wilmington. Bart Williams (JCHS) is the all-time leading scorer in Pikeville College History. And don't get me wrong, Elisha is a great player, but I wouldn't exactly consider what he did this season as "Making a Name for himself with basketball". I'm sure he will do that by the time that he graduates, but thus far, nope.
Let's all be honest here, unfortunately an education is not usually at the top of the priority list when it comes to their children and athletics. The one's who are serious about, for example here basketball, will take their kids who have proven to have good talent to a school that has current success in basketball. The decision is up to the family and nobody should harp on these kids for transferring. Of course everyone would like to for these two to stay put and help lead their teams to the promised land of high school hoops, but Tiller will be a Junior, and Hall a Sophmore. Unless their respective teams start winning some big games to help garner a little attention to their programs, then the scouts/coaches won't drive through the mountains to watch their teams play. Unless they are a college ready talent (which they are not), coaches won't come watch two 15th Region teams play because there isn't the kind of talent that you can find in the Lexington or Louisville area. There are probably 15-20 kids that are very similar talent to Tiller and Hall in both of those places. IF these two want to transfer for exposure to help get them a scholarship, they need to leave the 15th and head to Lexington or Louisville. If they want to win ballgames, then they can either stay put or transfer somewhere together (as this package deal implies). The region's talent from top to bottom is at arguably an all-time low. Not knocking Shelby Valley, but the 15th Region champion advancing to the state tournament and losing by 40 points doesn't help the image of the region. So unless Paintsville and Johnson Central win some high class tournaments, or start competing with some top notch talent, these two will have to settle for local college offers. IF they leave, and transfer to a place where there could be coaches and scouts at nearly every game (Lexington or Louisville area), then the options will obviously expand. As long as the move is made to better these kids' futures, then I'm all for it, because they both have great potential.