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Lamar Dawson
RebelPride12 Wrote:Neither were drafted and neither made it past the practice squad. Try again.

Still more than Oregon. Try a different school.
SportzAnimal Wrote:Hey. Calm down! Y'all got your panties all up in a wad.

Here's the way it goes. If you are good enough to play in the NFL, then it doesn't matter where you play D-1 college ball. They will find you. Whether it be at UK, Oregon, USC, UCF, or UT. So, frankly who cares?

And just to end the argument... USC has put more players in the pros, including LBs, than probably all the other schools listed put together. The only one that would come close to them would be UT....there it's over.

It doesn't even have to be D1 anymore. Ask Danny Woodhead. If you're good enough they'll find you, if you're not, work on your degree and get into a good career. Playing college ball is an amazing opportunity in itself.
64black&gold Wrote:I understand what you are saying. If Micah had someone to push him I think he would have been better. Got way to big. Should have moved to DE. Just my opinion. I think it's more up to the player though. If they want it they will do the work. I think playing against SEC comp lets them see where they stand. Plus the NFL will find the best players no matter where they play. I would not blame him a bit if he chose Oregon. I just think he goes Blue and if he wants it bad enough he will reach the next level.

I agree wholeheartedly.
LClion4life Wrote:Still more than Oregon. Try a different school.

Okay.

USC and UT. Two of his other top 5 choices.


Are you really trying to act like UK has a better football program and more to offer than Oregon, USC or UT? Really?
SportzAnimal Wrote:Hey. Calm down! Y'all got your panties all up in a wad.

Here's the way it goes. If you are good enough to play in the NFL, then it doesn't matter where you play D-1 college ball. They will find you. Whether it be at UK, Oregon, USC, UCF, or UT. So, frankly who cares?

And just to end the argument... USC has put more players in the pros, including LBs, than probably all the other schools listed put together. The only one that would come close to them would be UT....there it's over.

Could care less about that aspect of his choice and I agree......if he is good enough and works hard enough the NFL will find him. I just don't want to hear about UK being Linebacker U because they aren't. Linebacker seems to be the most difficult position for them to turn into pros.


That being said.......

I want to see a kid who has helped teams WIN since the 7th grade continue to WIN. If he goes to UK he very well could lose more games next year in one year than he has lost from 7-12th grade combined.

WORD UP!!!!!!
RebelPride12 Wrote:Okay.

USC and UT. Two of his other top 5 choices.


Are you really trying to act like UK has a better football program and more to offer than Oregon, USC or UT? Really?

No? Never did I say that. You said if he wanted to be NFL ready he should go to Oregon and that is what I disagreed with.
RebelPride12 Wrote:Could care less about that aspect of his choice and I agree......if he is good enough and works hard enough the NFL will find him. I just don't want to hear about UK being Linebacker U because they aren't. Linebacker seems to be the most difficult position for them to turn into pros.


That being said.......

I want to see a kid who has helped teams WIN since the 7th grade continue to WIN. If he goes to UK he very well could lose more games next year in one year than he has lost from 7-12th grade combined.

WORD UP!!!!!!

No matter where he goes, he will not win like he did at Boyle County.
LClion4life Wrote:No matter where he goes, he will not win like he did at Boyle County.

Yeah but he'll have a much better chance to win like that at UT, USC and Oregon. All 3 will play in BCS bowls in the next 4 years.
This is really funny. I read this post to see what was being posted about Lamar and I have to post. I hope this player goes where he wants and where he thinks is the best fit. Come on RebelPride 12. UT is not the UT is was a few years ago. They don't hav the talent yet to play is a BCS. Read the Knoxville news. People know that in Big Orange Country. They will not play in a BSC game for three four years. USC cheats and will not play A BCS because they are under penalty. Oregon might because the PAC 10 is weak. BCS games only go to a top ten team or the winner of a weak conference like the ones UConn or Bosie State belong and get the media hype.
Penn State is known as linebacker U.
RebelPride12 Wrote:Yeah but he'll have a much better chance to win like that at UT, USC and Oregon. All 3 will play in BCS bowls in the next 4 years.

UT hasn't played in a BCS bowl game in the last 4 years so why would you assume they will in the next 4?
Blackwater Wrote:This is really funny. I read this post to see what was being posted about Lamar and I have to post. I hope this player goes where he wants and where he thinks is the best fit. Come on RebelPride 12. UT is not the UT is was a few years ago. They don't hav the talent yet to play is a BCS. Read the Knoxville news. People know that in Big Orange Country. They will not play in a BSC game for three four years. USC cheats and will not play A BCS because they are under penalty. Oregon might because the PAC 10 is weak. BCS games only go to a top ten team or the winner of a weak conference like the ones UConn or Bosie State belong and get the media hype.
Penn State is known as linebacker U.

Boise St. gets in for being undefeated usually, not because they win their conference, their conference isn't an automatic qualifier. But overall: :Clap:
They are media darlings. My point was this for BSU. They play in a weak conference. I didn't say anything about their conference being an automatic qualifier.
" BCS games only go to a top ten team or the winner of a weak conference like the one UConn or Bosie State belong and get the media hype." Sorry for the confusion.
No problem! Great post!
LClion4life Wrote:No? Never did I say that. You said if he wanted to be NFL ready he should go to Oregon and that is what I disagreed with.

Yeah, him going to Oregon to work hard to get on the field to play will better prepare him for the work it is going to take for him to get to the NFL as opposed to just walking into a starting spot at UK where he won't have to work as hard to get on the field. Is my logic flawed in thinking that?
LClion4life Wrote:UT hasn't played in a BCS bowl game in the last 4 years so why would you assume they will in the next 4?

They are young team that will be leaps and bounds better over the next 3 years. They make 1 BCS bowl over the next 4 years(which is highly likely and 1 more BCS bowl than UK will be in) and then my statement rings true. Much better chance to play in a BCS bowl at UT than UK.
Blackwater Wrote:This is really funny. I read this post to see what was being posted about Lamar and I have to post. I hope this player goes where he wants and where he thinks is the best fit. Come on RebelPride 12. UT is not the UT is was a few years ago. They don't hav the talent yet to play is a BCS. Read the Knoxville news. People know that in Big Orange Country. They will not play in a BSC game for three four years. USC cheats and will not play A BCS because they are under penalty. Oregon might because the PAC 10 is weak. BCS games only go to a top ten team or the winner of a weak conference like the ones UConn or Bosie State belong and get the media hype.
Penn State is known as linebacker U.


Ahhh....another casual college football fan I see. UT will win the SEC East within the next 3 years. Watch. I'd bet money on that.

USC only has 1 more year of probation. They received a two year postseason ban and they missed 2010 and will miss the 2011 bowl season. As will UK. In 2012 they are BCS bound again.

Oregon played for a National Championship and defeated a great Stanford team that some say was the 3rd best team this year. What was UK's signature game this year? A 3 point loss to the National Champs........


Again, if Central Florida wins their conference and can play in a better bowl game than UK then I am all for that. I don't understand why folks are trying to convince me that UK is a better place than Oregon, USC or UT. It can't be done.

My main argument is I want to see him WIN at the next level yet no one addresses that aspect.
We all know that he will go where he wants. If I had any influence in his life UK would not be a top 5 choice. Believe that. Doesn't mean we can't discuss where he SHOULD or where we wish he would play at.

I think UK is all but signed, sealed and delivered and I wish him well and nothing but success in his future. Doesn't change the fact I'd love to see him go to a BCS bowl playing quality school.
RebelPride12 Wrote:Yeah, him going to Oregon to work hard to get on the field to play will better prepare him for the work it is going to take for him to get to the NFL as opposed to just walking into a starting spot at UK where he won't have to work as hard to get on the field. Is my logic flawed in thinking that?

Yes, he may walk into a starting spot at UK, but he'll be thrown into the fire against top-notch competition in the SEC. If he plays 4 years against an SEC schedule, or even 3 years, even if he does walk into a starting spot, he'll be ready for the league. Ask Randall Cobb. :thanks:
USC will bring in 2 or 3 linebackers every year who will be on the same level as Lamar or better. If you want to see him play, I wouldn't advocate him going to USC.
LClion4life Wrote:It doesn't even have to be D1 anymore. Ask Danny Woodhead. If you're good enough they'll find you, if you're not, work on your degree and get into a good career. Playing college ball is an amazing opportunity in itself.


That is correct. I just used D-1 cause his list of 5 schools are all D-1, but, no, it doesn't have to be. The NFL will find you anywhere....if you are good enough.
RebelPride12 Wrote:We all know that he will go where he wants. If I had any influence in his life UK would not be a top 5 choice. Believe that. Doesn't mean we can't discuss where he SHOULD or where we wish he would play at.

I think UK is all but signed, sealed and delivered and I wish him well and nothing but success in his future. Doesn't change the fact I'd love to see him go to a BCS bowl playing quality school.


Yeah, but you hate UK. I mean, you're a Duke fan in basketball and a Seminole fan in football. You can say you don't hate UK football, but...you can't say you love it either. Just sayin. UK fans want him to stay here and play. You can't blame them for that. Don't be mad at us cause FSU didn't offer...lol

Oh. UT will not be in a BCS bowl in the next 4 years either. Where is that logic coming from?

The schools in order of chance of Lamar starting are:

1)UCF
2 tie) UK and UT
4) USC
5) Oregon
You think he has a higher chance at starting at USC than Oregon?
SportzAnimal Wrote:Yeah, but you hate UK. I mean, you're a Duke fan in basketball and a Seminole fan in football. You can say you don't hate UK football, but...you can't say you love it either. Just sayin. UK fans want him to stay here and play. You can't blame them for that. Don't be mad at us cause FSU didn't offer...lol

Oh. UT will not be in a BCS bowl in the next 4 years either. Where is that logic coming from?

The schools in order of chance of Lamar starting are:

1)UCF
2 tie) UK and UT
4) USC
5) Oregon

Yeah but I root for UK Football and everything at UK except for the basketball team. I did go to school there big guy. Mr. I hope he goes to Oregon or UK. lol

UT is going to be nice. Watch. Plus, they will beat UK. As will Florida. As will Georgia. As will South Carolina. As will everybody else in the SEC except for Vandy. Good luck, Lamar.

And I am not mad at UK fans for wanting him to go there. I am mad at UK fans for trying to convince me that UK is a great spot for him. Be honest and say I am selfish and want to see him at UK. Not none of that we put linebackers in the pros and we go to garbage bowl games every year nonsense. Be real is all I am saying. Out of his top 5 UK is the 4th best choice.
LClion4life Wrote:Yes, he may walk into a starting spot at UK, but he'll be thrown into the fire against top-notch competition in the SEC. If he plays 4 years against an SEC schedule, or even 3 years, even if he does walk into a starting spot, he'll be ready for the league. Ask Randall Cobb. :thanks:

He has yet to be drafted or play a down in the NFL yet. I wouldn't use him as an example yet, Andre Woodson.
LClion4life Wrote:USC will bring in 2 or 3 linebackers every year who will be on the same level as Lamar or better. If you want to see him play, I wouldn't advocate him going to USC.

I would rather see him play 2 meaningful years at USC as a junior and senior than play all 4 years at UK. I want to see him win.


He can go to USC, Oregon, UT and if it doesn't work out.......transfer to UK.


You all should be glad I am not his father. Joker wouldn't step foot in my house.:biggrin: :flame:
LClion4life Wrote:You think he has a higher chance at starting at USC than Oregon?

I think he proved he is capable of starting anywhere in the nation when he earned a starting spot at the US Army All Star game.
USC or UT will play in a BCS game in four years. USC has taken to big of a hit with the loss of scholarships and UT has a long mountain to climb before they win an SEC Championship or finish in the top 12 to make it to a BCS game. Lets not forget before Pete Carroll made them who they were. Yes I know they had tradition before him but Pete but them back on the map and a contender year in year out and then bounced. He left them in the rebuilding stage again meaning Lane Kiffin could be hitting the door pretty soon. He's not a coach you want when you are rebuilding and already on probation with all of the infranctions he gets even though they are minor it's means a whole lot more when you are already on probation. With that being said Lamar ends up at UK. French and Smith have to much of a bond for him to get out of the grasp of UK. You know Smith has Larry whispering go to UK in his ear.
^ I can guarantee you that French, in no way shape or form, is pushing Lamar to go anywhere. You must've never met him. He wants the best for his players. He will not persuade them one way or the other. If Lamar ends up at UK it will have nothing to do with Smith or French. The biggest factors we have going for us is he can play/start right away and his friend Jordan Aumiller is there. That's it.
LClion4life Wrote:You think he has a higher chance at starting at USC than Oregon?


Yes, I do. Based on the amount of competition (# of LBers) and the quality of competition. I, personally, think he can start at any of these schools as a Freshmen. That's just my order, it can be argued.
RebelPride12 Wrote:Yeah but I root for UK Football and everything at UK except for the basketball team. I did go to school there big guy. Mr. I hope he goes to Oregon or UK. lol

UT is going to be nice. Watch. Plus, they will beat UK. As will Florida. As will Georgia. As will South Carolina. As will everybody else in the SEC except for Vandy. Good luck, Lamar.

And I am not mad at UK fans for wanting him to go there. I am mad at UK fans for trying to convince me that UK is a great spot for him. Be honest and say I am selfish and want to see him at UK. Not none of that we put linebackers in the pros and we go to garbage bowl games every year nonsense. Be real is all I am saying. Out of his top 5 UK is the 4th best choice.

You're right. I do want him at UK or Oregon. Those are my schools. Plus, there are 3 other reasons:
UCF doesn't play elite competition
UT is in the SEC. I'm a UK fan and hate UT.
USC has Lane Kiffin. I don't like him.

There that sums it up.

I know UK isn't LB U and you know that. I am being selfish. I wan him to play for UK or Oregon because I already like them. That's selfish, that's me.
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