12-26-2010, 11:05 PM
ladycats09 Wrote:It is obvious you are not able to comprehend. I bet noone in 3A is not proud of their rings they got this year. You are a hopeless case that will forever be sore if Coach Mills decides to take the Bell job. I think it would be a wise move, if he wants to quit hitting that wall. You think he should continue to bang his head until he reaches retirement. Let's just call it a difference of opinions. I will say that I bet no one will be any more proud than he is if he comes and wins it next year. A feat that is well within reach if he comes.I bet the 3a teams are proud but as a a coach what do you tell your team at the half at the championship game. Look I have dropped down to win one so go get it for me.
God bless you.
12-26-2010, 11:09 PM
Radio Wrote:So you are saying he should take a sure thing by dropping in competition level? What do you say to your kids in July? we dont have to practice as hard because we dropped in class. I can just picture General patton dropping out of WWII because the competion level is too hard, maybe he would have attacked Canada. True Champions dont take the easy road thats what makes them different from the rest. That would be the last reason for taking a job in my opinion. I would rather my old buddy stand and say I stood and fought but never won one as hear him say I got one handed to me. Just like Patton said " when you have your granchild on your knee and he asked about the great war you will not have to say well I shoveld CRAP in Louisianna" If he stays and does not win a title at least he can say I competed with the best.
I'm speaking for myself here. Regardless of class each team will play in the upcoming years if I'm a coach I go to Bell. I don't think twice about it. Bell has won for years now and they will continue to be a winner. Some act like Bell has nothing left or their program is on a level below Knox now. When you can come with something to back that up I'll listen. Until then, you do not have a leg to stand on. Bell was, is, and will be a better program year in and year out than Knox. To get on here and say that Knox is the better program is laughable. I pull for Knox beside the games when they play Bell but I won't get on here and go along with this ridiculous talk. Keep it real for now. Let Knox beat Bell a few years in a row and then we'll talk about it. But for now, there is no debate as to the better program now or in the future. How you can say otherwise is more than baffling. I can understand speaking for the love of your team but this is going way overboard. No need to argue this point anymore as far as me. No way will I buy into any of these posts that some have put on here.
12-26-2010, 11:17 PM
easyM Wrote:I'm speaking for myself here. Regardless of class each team will play in the upcoming years if I'm a coach I go to Bell. I don't think twice about it. Bell has won for years now and they will continue to be a winner. Some act like Bell has nothing left or their program is on a level below Knox now. When you can come with something to back that up I'll listen. Until then, you do not have a leg to stand on. Bell was, is, and will be a better program year in and year out than Knox. To get on here and say that Knox is the better program is laughable. I pull for Knox beside the games when they play Bell but I won't get on here and go along with this ridiculous talk. Keep it real for now. Let Knox beat Bell a few years in a row and then we'll talk about it. But for now, there is no debate as to the better program now or in the future. How you can say otherwise is more than baffling. I can understand speaking for the love of your team but this is going way overboard. No need to argue this point anymore as far as me. No way will I buy into any of these posts that some have put on here.
No way I go to Bell if a living legend is not happy how could I be. No way Dudley was happy. No future at Bell if you win it was dudley if you loose your not dudley. It cant be good
12-26-2010, 11:50 PM
Radio Wrote:No way I go to Bell if a living legend is not happy how could I be. No way Dudley was happy. No future at Bell if you win it was dudley if you loose your not dudley. It cant be good
Dudley was plenty happy. He just moved to a different level to coach his son. You have no idea. If he wanted to coach high school football, he could have had almost any job in the state. Very few would have turned him down. :please:
12-27-2010, 12:19 AM
Radio Wrote:I bet the 3a teams are proud but as a a coach what do you tell your team at the half at the championship game. Look I have dropped down to win one so go get it for me.
I guess that is what Dudley told his boys at Bourbon Co. when they won for him in a lower class than Bell.:eyeroll:
12-27-2010, 10:29 AM
Stiff-Arm Wrote:Just to clear up some of the talk. If Mills takes the Bell Job, the knox vs. bell game will end for some time.
Stiff-Arm Wrote:It will all come out soon. I know for a fact no choice has yet been made.
Wrong both times!!
Like I've said before, it's a done deal.
12-27-2010, 04:01 PM
Football1 Wrote:If Wayne decides to leave Knox and what he has built here I and many others will be very saddened and greatly dissappointed - especially considering he told our sons he was not.
That said, I totally understand the notion that Bell is a great program where it indeed would be an honor for any coach to lead. But here is what you are not getting. In business we study markets and growth trajectory to ascertain potential. We buy companies that lead not only in current market share (Bell) but ones that show exponential growth (Knox). Everyone thinks its a great thing for Bell that they are moving the 3A but that is not the case. Frankly, it shows the decline of population in that area. It moves you to a lower class of football where there are fewer elite schools. Why leave your home town where you personally are responsible for amazing growth of a program that 2 out of the last 3 years has set records for "best ever" when the only school that really beat you just left? And if he stays, he will get to be the coach at Knox when we beat Bell next year. If he leaves, he will be the coach that is at Bell when we beat them. Which sideline would you choose?
Had Bell been promoted to 6A and go whip Trinity, sure; that would be like the coach at EKU getting an offer to coach UT. But this is more like EKU getting the offer at Georgetown. Wayne grew up around here seeing Bell own the football market. Maybe the luster of Bell will draw him but I honestly feel it will be a terrible mistake for him and his family. Few men EVER get the chance to lead their own HS football program to greatness. Even fewer, when given that chance actually pull it off; but he is! And he is well on his way to leaving a legacy of winning on the field and even more importantly - in the lives of young men here in his home town. To leave that for a program where the banners on the stadium that you did not put there will cast a shadow over your work every day you blow the whistle is a poor trade. And if he leaves, by the time he figures out he got the poor end of the trade his job will be filled at Knox and he will be left to deal with those shadows.
May God bless him to do what is right for him and his family first. The rest of us will accept that whatever it is. Just know that God has at least one fellow praying for the staying... LOL.
Football1 I can understand where you are coming from, losing a coach is not a good feeling at all. With that said I want to address some things in your post.
1. Coach Hilton also told our boys this year he would not be leaving, but he did in fact leave. I wish him well because we still and always will love him.
2. You keep saying Knox will be Bell in 2011, I have heard that year in and year out, so don't count your chickens before they hatch.
3. Bell should have been in 3A a long time ago, so no there is really no decline.
4. I'm not in the know, but I do know that from some things that are a FACT, it does look like he is heading to Bell IMO.
If he does head to Bell and his roots are as deep as you say, and I think they are, then it must have been a real hard choice for him and each one of you should support him in Bell, as he felt this was the best move for him. Also you keep talking about your better athletes than Bell if he does move and they are better then the new coach you get should do fine. I KNOW OURS WILL!
12-27-2010, 04:09 PM
William Muney Wrote:Anybody in their right mind as a football fan knows "Bell is not dead." Just b/c they lose in Little league don't mean much IMO. From what I was told they have a couple of weaker classes but each of those classes have pieces that will fit together nicely when they are altogether. 1 group has a good core of Lineman they other skilled kids. Anyone who thinks Bell Co. football is simply "Dudley Hilton" is foolish. That is what he always wanted it to appears as but it is not the whole truth.
I agree,Bell is not dead! IDK too much about the politic of it all but it does make one feel better to have Coach Hilton on their side! But I can tell you A LOT of our boys are really close to Fred Hoskins and really work hard for him and some of our other assistants. So if there is not a lot of changes made we will be fine IMO.
12-27-2010, 04:33 PM
Also don't forget that Wayne's brother works for the Bell Co school system already. Doesn't mean much but you never know. His neice is a Graduate of Bell Co also.
12-27-2010, 06:24 PM
If Wayne comes, great. If he doesn't, Bell will be just fine.
And to the one that asked the question, why isn't any big name coaches applying for the job? Who ever said they're not? I promise you Bell isn't short on quaility coaches to choose from....
And to the one that asked the question, why isn't any big name coaches applying for the job? Who ever said they're not? I promise you Bell isn't short on quaility coaches to choose from....
12-27-2010, 11:11 PM
mommacat Wrote:Football1 I can understand where you are coming from, losing a coach is not a good feeling at all. With that said I want to address some things in your post.Your points here are well stated. Clearly, I see things a little differently, but that's what makes this thread worth 15,000 people looking at it...LOL - which is none of us really have a clue what's going to happen here.
1. Coach Hilton also told our boys this year he would not be leaving, but he did in fact leave. I wish him well because we still and always will love him.
2. You keep saying Knox will be Bell in 2011, I have heard that year in and year out, so don't count your chickens before they hatch.
3. Bell should have been in 3A a long time ago, so no there is really no decline.
4. I'm not in the know, but I do know that from some things that are a FACT, it does look like he is heading to Bell IMO.
If he does head to Bell and his roots are as deep as you say, and I think they are, then it must have been a real hard choice for him and each one of you should support him in Bell, as he felt this was the best move for him. Also you keep talking about your better athletes than Bell if he does move and they are better then the new coach you get should do fine. I KNOW OURS WILL!
Me, still praying for the staying.
12-28-2010, 12:15 AM
Gentlemen, this is awesome to have this much fire for a coach and a program. I for one know that Coach Mills will be on the sidelines of Bell Co., but he is doing what is best for he and his family. If a coach and his wife can gain a better teaching position (meaning less to do in the classroom such as a Reading Specialist) then that is what he should do. No coach should ever be chastised by making a family decision. Good luck to Bell Co. and their new coach and Knox Co. and their new coach.
12-28-2010, 03:39 PM
I would love to see Bell go in a different direction. I have been to nearly every game that Bell has played over the last 26 years and have heard repeatedly the complaints of how we need a more balanced offense. To put it as plain as possible with any former or current Bell assistant it will be the same offense . Run the ball 80% of the time win 12 games (can usually win this many without throwing a pass but where does that get you in the end) get to the semi finals and then lose most of the time because we are not comfortable throwing the football. I have sat and heard complaint after complaint that we would have won 8-10 titles if we had a balanced offense well lets see!! Lets get someone who is 50 50 run pass or 60 40 so we don't lay an egg when we get up against a team that forces you to pass the ball.
12-28-2010, 03:49 PM
By the way whoever Bell hires all bobcat fans will be 100% behind them no matter who it is and what their background in coaching might be.
12-28-2010, 08:30 PM
hwy 58 Wrote:By the way whoever Bell hires all bobcat fans will be 100% behind them no matter who it is and what their background in coaching might be.
I agree, but Bell Co needs a HC with Head Coaching experience. THIS IS BELL CO... :Thumbs:
12-28-2010, 11:51 PM
This just in I heard Wayne flew to Dallas and Jerry Jones offered him the job. 5 mill per year and an oil well. Now that job I would take.
12-29-2010, 12:04 AM
easyM Wrote:If Wayne comes, great. If he doesn't, Bell will be just fine.Hopefully this is the attitude that will keep Coach at home. Because we need him, maybe we are blind but we want to keep our coach. I am not trying to argue so please dont fire back me in anger just know at this point in our program we dont just want him we need him.
And to the one that asked the question, why isn't any big name coaches applying for the job? Who ever said they're not? I promise you Bell isn't short on quaility coaches to choose from....
12-29-2010, 01:04 AM
hwy 58 Wrote:I would love to see Bell go in a different direction. I have been to nearly every game that Bell has played over the last 26 years and have heard repeatedly the complaints of how we need a more balanced offense. To put it as plain as possible with any former or current Bell assistant it will be the same offense . Run the ball 80% of the time win 12 games (can usually win this many without throwing a pass but where does that get you in the end) get to the semi finals and then lose most of the time because we are not comfortable throwing the football. I have sat and heard complaint after complaint that we would have won 8-10 titles if we had a balanced offense well lets see!! Lets get someone who is 50 50 run pass or 60 40 so we don't lay an egg when we get up against a team that forces you to pass the ball.Interesting perspective. Would Bell be even better with a more modern approach to offense as opposed to a traditional run attack? Is that factoring at all into the coaching search?
12-29-2010, 05:00 AM
I'd wager he will not have the success at Pikeville College he has had at the High School level....Unless he was ready to hang it up it sure looks like a bone head move to me for him to leave Bell and go to Pikeville College.
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12-29-2010, 11:38 AM
My my business has certianly picked up on this thread lately. Let a man get sick and absent for a few days and things go all to whell...lol. By all means keep up the good work...
12-29-2010, 11:45 PM
hwy 58 Wrote:. To put it as plain as possible with any former or current Bell assistant it will be the same offense . Run the ball 80% of the time win 12 games (can usually win this many without throwing a pass but where does that get you in the end) get to the semi finals and then lose most of the time because we are not comfortable throwing the football.
Don't be so sure. Did Guy Morris run the same offense at UK as Hal Mumme? I agree that you can't wait until it is time to have to throw to throw. I don't necessarily think a Bell person would run the same offense as Coach Hilton.
12-30-2010, 12:12 AM
Bell should run more of a spread O with the Qb and Davenport...the zone would be dangerous with these two. This is just my op:rockon:
12-30-2010, 12:17 AM
Mercer announced Rains. When will Bell announce?
12-30-2010, 12:19 AM
who all has applied for this job?
12-30-2010, 12:39 AM
Hagarxxxxxxxxxout
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Woolum
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Cobbxxxxxxxxxout
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Matney
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Jaggers
Rains is out. Has taken the Mercer job. Things are quiet.
Mills
Hoskins
Woolum
Rainsxxxxxxxxxout
Cobbxxxxxxxxxout
Frazier
Larkey Sr.xxxxxxout
Roarkxxxxxxxxxout
Hensleyxxxxxxxout
Matney
Holcombxxxxxxxout
Greerxxxxxxxxxxout
Crawfordxxxxxxout
Chappellxxxxxxxout
Russellxxxxxxxxxout
Chaneyxxxxxxxxout
Jaggers
Rains is out. Has taken the Mercer job. Things are quiet.
12-30-2010, 12:51 AM
Just heard that Scotty Russell has applied at Grant Co. May be an indication that Mills is on his way to Bell. Doesn't look good for Knox in keeping their coach. Time will tell.
12-30-2010, 01:00 AM
Who is Scotty Russell?
12-30-2010, 01:02 AM
AnswertheBell Wrote:Just heard that Scotty Russell has applied at Grant Co. May be an indication that Mills is on his way to Bell. Doesn't look good for Knox in keeping their coach. Time will tell.Russell is well qualified to go win a heach coaching job. Bell would have come out better recruiting him as it would have been a step up for Coach Russell.
Him looking at head coaching jobs Means nothing in this situation with Coach Mills being asked to Coach at Bell. Great assistants should be looking at and getting looked at for these types of jobs.
12-30-2010, 01:09 AM
AnswertheBell Wrote:Just heard that Scotty Russell has applied at Grant Co. May be an indication that Mills is on his way to Bell. Doesn't look good for Knox in keeping their coach. Time will tell.
I do know he was in Lexington today though.
12-30-2010, 01:10 AM
Football1 Wrote:Mercer announced Rains. When will Bell announce?
After the 30 days it has been posted.
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