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12-04-2005, 02:15 AM
Well will this cause people to wake and see that there is a problem.The AD's voted to do something about it but our KHSAA said no.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
12-04-2005, 02:51 AM
This is a good thread.
IMO something definately needs to be done. Private schools have an advantage because they are allowed to recruit players for the most part.
IMO something definately needs to be done. Private schools have an advantage because they are allowed to recruit players for the most part.
12-04-2005, 03:05 AM
I am not a complainer or in any way winner is a winner. But when it comes to recruiting other players out of ur area for any type of sport is just flat out wrong I think the khs needs to review some rules.
12-04-2005, 03:25 AM
or enforce them
they don't want to address it because of the money made in the 4A game
they don't want to address it because of the money made in the 4A game
12-04-2005, 03:29 AM
I just find it hard to believe that there are less than 20 (10-15 actually i think, numbers may be wrong though) private high schools with football teams yet 5 of them make to the state championship game. It really does seem fishy. I'm sure there are some privates who made it who do everything perfectly legit and just have some darn good football teams, enough said. But, somewhere there has to be some foul play.
Not to mention it's not only those 5 times.
In 1A, if NCC hadn't beat LCA, there is a good chance LCA would be celbrating a championship tonight if they had gotten past Somerset in the next round. Somerset and LCA both lost to NCC by similar margins.
In 2A, if OC had lost their state semi, it would have still been another private, DeSales, in their place tonight.
In 3A, only 2 private schools there. CovCath and LexCath. LexCath's only game they won by less than 17 points was to CovCath by 3. Very, very possible to make a case for CovCath being the 2nd best team in 3A.
In 4A, both championship teams were privates. I mean c'mon!
Just looking at those teams mentioned, there are 8 of the very few privates that participate in football, all with extremely good, championship caliber teams.
Just based off that it really seems the KHSAA should take a heads up that somewhere, something is not right.
Not to mention it's not only those 5 times.
In 1A, if NCC hadn't beat LCA, there is a good chance LCA would be celbrating a championship tonight if they had gotten past Somerset in the next round. Somerset and LCA both lost to NCC by similar margins.
In 2A, if OC had lost their state semi, it would have still been another private, DeSales, in their place tonight.
In 3A, only 2 private schools there. CovCath and LexCath. LexCath's only game they won by less than 17 points was to CovCath by 3. Very, very possible to make a case for CovCath being the 2nd best team in 3A.
In 4A, both championship teams were privates. I mean c'mon!
Just looking at those teams mentioned, there are 8 of the very few privates that participate in football, all with extremely good, championship caliber teams.
Just based off that it really seems the KHSAA should take a heads up that somewhere, something is not right.
12-04-2005, 03:59 AM
the kicker is that there are only 2 4A privates and why arnt they in the same region
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
could money be behind this
i wonder
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
could money be behind this
i wonder
12-04-2005, 04:03 AM
I have a question for you all.
Someone offers you a Ferrari. Loaded, free.
And at the same time someone offers you the exact same car, for anywhere between 4 & 6 thousand dollars.
Which one are you going to take?
Public schools have it all on themselves to open the districts and allow anyone, it's not the state's decision. Look at Highlands and Beechwood up here, independent school districts, can charge a reasonable tuition and take anyone they want. What makes them different from a private school? God?
I hate to say it b/c I respect everyone who has posted in this thread but Gimme a freaking break.
If you're school can not take kids from "out of district" talk to your administrators. It's their decision, no one elses. Louisville has open enrollment, anyone that lives there can go to any school they want, doesn't that give Male a huge advantage?
Isn't that what this country is founded on anyway, freedom. Go where you want, that should be everyone's right.
You will never tell me it is advantage to go to a private school, it costs more to go to NCC than to Northern Kentucky University and most other state schools, that right there eliminates 95% of the amount of kids that might want to go there. There is no student loan for high school, and we don't give free tuition, I assure you.
Recruit, of course we recruit, that 5% that can afford to go to our school, needs to know that that option is there, what we have to offer, and what sets us apart from Newport High School right down the street, and ladies and gents, I went there, my family has gone there, that has as little to do with sports as it possibly could.
Are all private schools on the up and up, I'm sure they're not. But you know what, don't blame all for one's transgressions, stick to your guns, force schools to abide by your rules, and enforce your rulings. For those schools such as mine, with all of our "advantages". Advantages such as not even having a baseball field, football field, track, auditorium for that matter, please, get over yourselves and your insecurity and your petty bickering and open your districts, quit your whining, and hit the weights.
Am I saying we work harder than everyone else, maybe we do, I don't know, I assure it's not b/c of some perceived advantage we have b/c we are a private school.
Newport Central CATHOLIC won it's first state football championship in 21 years tonight, and I'm on cloud 9 b/c of it. For about 15 straight years we were ousted by a school 100 students smaller than us, Beechwood, and dominated by them pretty much every one of those years, they can take a kid from Guatamala, charge them a fee and move on, what makes them any different than us?
No one will be able to answer that with a logical answer.
For those 15 years or so did you hear anyone at all in the state bitching and moaning about Beechwood being able to take anyone they wanted? No, why not? I'm asking?
This whole argument is ridiculous, come up with rules and enforce them, and then hopefully this whole issue will go away.
Someone offers you a Ferrari. Loaded, free.
And at the same time someone offers you the exact same car, for anywhere between 4 & 6 thousand dollars.
Which one are you going to take?
Public schools have it all on themselves to open the districts and allow anyone, it's not the state's decision. Look at Highlands and Beechwood up here, independent school districts, can charge a reasonable tuition and take anyone they want. What makes them different from a private school? God?
I hate to say it b/c I respect everyone who has posted in this thread but Gimme a freaking break.
If you're school can not take kids from "out of district" talk to your administrators. It's their decision, no one elses. Louisville has open enrollment, anyone that lives there can go to any school they want, doesn't that give Male a huge advantage?
Isn't that what this country is founded on anyway, freedom. Go where you want, that should be everyone's right.
You will never tell me it is advantage to go to a private school, it costs more to go to NCC than to Northern Kentucky University and most other state schools, that right there eliminates 95% of the amount of kids that might want to go there. There is no student loan for high school, and we don't give free tuition, I assure you.
Recruit, of course we recruit, that 5% that can afford to go to our school, needs to know that that option is there, what we have to offer, and what sets us apart from Newport High School right down the street, and ladies and gents, I went there, my family has gone there, that has as little to do with sports as it possibly could.
Are all private schools on the up and up, I'm sure they're not. But you know what, don't blame all for one's transgressions, stick to your guns, force schools to abide by your rules, and enforce your rulings. For those schools such as mine, with all of our "advantages". Advantages such as not even having a baseball field, football field, track, auditorium for that matter, please, get over yourselves and your insecurity and your petty bickering and open your districts, quit your whining, and hit the weights.
Am I saying we work harder than everyone else, maybe we do, I don't know, I assure it's not b/c of some perceived advantage we have b/c we are a private school.
Newport Central CATHOLIC won it's first state football championship in 21 years tonight, and I'm on cloud 9 b/c of it. For about 15 straight years we were ousted by a school 100 students smaller than us, Beechwood, and dominated by them pretty much every one of those years, they can take a kid from Guatamala, charge them a fee and move on, what makes them any different than us?
No one will be able to answer that with a logical answer.
For those 15 years or so did you hear anyone at all in the state bitching and moaning about Beechwood being able to take anyone they wanted? No, why not? I'm asking?
This whole argument is ridiculous, come up with rules and enforce them, and then hopefully this whole issue will go away.
12-04-2005, 11:44 AM
I agree. Privates have a advantage. Period. Numbers in the end dont lie. If the KHSAA dont act on what the schools voted for then they need to disband and become privae school boosters, which basically are what they are now.
12-04-2005, 12:23 PM
And let's not forget the other champion was an Independent School system, and a lot of Independents also takes takes kids out of the county system that they deem necessary for the benefit of their programs.
12-04-2005, 04:46 PM
blackcat Wrote:This is a good thread.
IMO something definately needs to be done. Private schools have an advantage because they are allowed to recruit players for the most part.
i agree
12-04-2005, 09:09 PM
JUDGE140 Wrote:And let's not forget the other champion was an Independent School system, and a lot of Independents also takes takes kids out of the county system that they deem necessary for the benefit of their programs.
Russell is only an Independent because we seperated ourselves from the Greenup Co. School board. We draw from Flatwoods and Russell only. Students outside of our area have to pay tuition since they do not live in our school district and do not contribute to our tax base. Plus they have to get permission to even come to Russell. But we do not recruit.
12-04-2005, 10:40 PM
A winner is a winner but somethin does need to be done.
12-04-2005, 10:42 PM
Midee1 Wrote:Russell is only an Independent because we seperated ourselves from the Greenup Co. School board. We draw from Flatwoods and Russell only. Students outside of our area have to pay tuition since they do not live in our school district and do not contribute to our tax base. Plus they have to get permission to even come to Russell. But we do not recruit.Ok so since no one else will atempt to answer my questions, b/c I am right, I will ask you? What makes you any different from a private school then? Every single player on NCC's football team this year is from NKY. What's the difference? We charge tuition to everyone that comes there, techinically wouldn't you say you have an advantage over a private school then, b/c you can take kids from anywhere and don't even have to charge the kids that live in your area, every kid if he lives a block or 100 miles from NCC has to pay 5000 dollars a year.
So since you say you don't recruit, if all theprivate schools said that you'd just believe them right?
The argument on the publics side is so weak it's sad.
12-04-2005, 11:27 PM
98NCCalum Wrote:Ok so since no one else will atempt to answer my questions, b/c I am right, I will ask you? What makes you any different from a private school then? Every single player on NCC's football team this year is from NKY. What's the difference? We charge tuition to everyone that comes there, techinically wouldn't you say you have an advantage over a private school then, b/c you can take kids from anywhere and don't even have to charge the kids that live in your area, every kid if he lives a block or 100 miles from NCC has to pay 5000 dollars a year.
So since you say you don't recruit, if all theprivate schools said that you'd just believe them right?
The argument on the publics side is so weak it's sad.
I'm sure not every private school recruits illegally, on the same token, I know it does happen. 98 you will have to agree with me on that, however there is something in your post that jumped out at me while I read it.....your words were "Every single player on NCC's team THIS YEAR is from NKY." With statements like that, surely you can understand how people make the conclusion that illegal recruiting is rampant, regardless of whether it is or not.
12-04-2005, 11:33 PM
I am completely neutral here--but--I have a question--and I would love to hear a few answers to it:
2004: 3 out of the 4 schools that won football state championships were public schools. Did anyone say that something needed to be done about the public schools? (Also--if you look back at the past few years--I think that you will find the same number of public football schools won state championships).
In order to truly evaluate a problem---you need to look at everything involved. You can't just look at football and say that there is an issue. At the very LEAST--football is not a great example to use historically.
2004: 3 out of the 4 schools that won football state championships were public schools. Did anyone say that something needed to be done about the public schools? (Also--if you look back at the past few years--I think that you will find the same number of public football schools won state championships).
In order to truly evaluate a problem---you need to look at everything involved. You can't just look at football and say that there is an issue. At the very LEAST--football is not a great example to use historically.
12-04-2005, 11:56 PM
Ok volleyball championships
public schools 0
private 18
public schools 0
private 18
12-05-2005, 12:30 AM
For years the school system in Russell and any other independent school has always been known to recurit. Yell you say they charge a fee to go to that school but they give "spiffs" or breaks to kids who they really want to be there, such as offering there parents good paying jobs, or free houseing just to send thier kid to play at thier school.
Midee1 Wrote:Russell is only an Independent because we seperated ourselves from the Greenup Co. School board. We draw from Flatwoods and Russell only. Students outside of our area have to pay tuition since they do not live in our school district and do not contribute to our tax base. Plus they have to get permission to even come to Russell. But we do not recruit.
12-05-2005, 02:34 AM
All State Championship combined in all sports since regulation by the KHSAA excluding sports that have been discontinued (Rifle Marksmanship, Boys' Gymnastics, Girls' Gymnastics, Girls' Fencing, and Boys' Fencing) and excluding any championships won yet this school year:
Publics - 922 (70.06%)
Privates - 394 (29.94%)
Total - 1316
Public Schools that compete in any athletics under the KHSAA- 239 (83.86%)
Private Schools that compete in any athletics under the KHSAA- 46 (16.14%)
Total - 285
List of Private Schools that compete in athletics under the KHSAA:
Assumption
Beth Haven
Bethlehem
Bishop Brossart
Calvary Christian
Christian Academy (Louisville)
Chrisitan Fellowship
Community Christian (Paducah)
Covington Catholic
Covington Latin
David School
DeSales
Evangel Christian
Heritage
Holy Cross (Covington)
Holy Cross (Louisville)
June Buchanan
Kentucky Country Day
Lexington Catholic
Lexington Christian Acadmey
Louisville Collegiate
Mercy
Millersburg Military Academy
Newport Central Catholic
Notre Dame
Oneida Baptist Institute
Owensboro Catholic
Piarist
Portland Christian
Presentation
Red Bird
Riverside Christian
Rose Hill Christian
Sacred Heart
Sayre
St Francis
St Henry
St. Mary
St. Patrick
St. Xavier
Trinity (Louisville)
Trinity (Whitesville)
University Heights
Villa Madonna
Walden
Whitefield Acadmey
If any of this information is wrong, please let me know. I tried to take the time to make sure it was all correct, but I did do this quickly, so any correction that may be needed would be greatly appreciated.
Also, in case anyone is wondering, I will be breaking down the numbers for each individual sport as opposed to the number of private/public schools that compete in each as shown above for the totals but please give me some time for these as they will need it.
Publics - 922 (70.06%)
Privates - 394 (29.94%)
Total - 1316
Public Schools that compete in any athletics under the KHSAA- 239 (83.86%)
Private Schools that compete in any athletics under the KHSAA- 46 (16.14%)
Total - 285
List of Private Schools that compete in athletics under the KHSAA:
Assumption
Beth Haven
Bethlehem
Bishop Brossart
Calvary Christian
Christian Academy (Louisville)
Chrisitan Fellowship
Community Christian (Paducah)
Covington Catholic
Covington Latin
David School
DeSales
Evangel Christian
Heritage
Holy Cross (Covington)
Holy Cross (Louisville)
June Buchanan
Kentucky Country Day
Lexington Catholic
Lexington Christian Acadmey
Louisville Collegiate
Mercy
Millersburg Military Academy
Newport Central Catholic
Notre Dame
Oneida Baptist Institute
Owensboro Catholic
Piarist
Portland Christian
Presentation
Red Bird
Riverside Christian
Rose Hill Christian
Sacred Heart
Sayre
St Francis
St Henry
St. Mary
St. Patrick
St. Xavier
Trinity (Louisville)
Trinity (Whitesville)
University Heights
Villa Madonna
Walden
Whitefield Acadmey
If any of this information is wrong, please let me know. I tried to take the time to make sure it was all correct, but I did do this quickly, so any correction that may be needed would be greatly appreciated.
Also, in case anyone is wondering, I will be breaking down the numbers for each individual sport as opposed to the number of private/public schools that compete in each as shown above for the totals but please give me some time for these as they will need it.
12-05-2005, 03:01 AM
Your info is close to being if not correct.
However
Last year
30 champions crowned
17 private
13 public
now i am no brainic but if 17 championships went to a group of 46
and 13 went to a group of 239 then i would say that the figure form the 60's really are not relavant to today.
And that was the issue.
you know I have asked a couple of questions about why this came about
If the KHSAA began to look around and see ball players who live out of districts, out of city limits playing then we see why this has become such a hotbed issue
Also Fort Cambell and Fort Knox were placed in with the private schools but were removed from the list becasue they are classified as F1 schools
However
Last year
30 champions crowned
17 private
13 public
now i am no brainic but if 17 championships went to a group of 46
and 13 went to a group of 239 then i would say that the figure form the 60's really are not relavant to today.
And that was the issue.
you know I have asked a couple of questions about why this came about
If the KHSAA began to look around and see ball players who live out of districts, out of city limits playing then we see why this has become such a hotbed issue
Also Fort Cambell and Fort Knox were placed in with the private schools but were removed from the list becasue they are classified as F1 schools
12-05-2005, 03:05 AM
That was a great post tomcat.
can you help me witha question Name the last single A school to win the sweet 16 that was not a independent or a private school.
I have been told Anderson co.(1976) but they have a enrollment of 600
Erlington won it in 67 but i cant find any info on them
thanks
can you help me witha question Name the last single A school to win the sweet 16 that was not a independent or a private school.
I have been told Anderson co.(1976) but they have a enrollment of 600
Erlington won it in 67 but i cant find any info on them
thanks
12-05-2005, 03:11 AM
Here is the list of champions as far back as I could find it anywhere. I will go back and try to find out which one was the last non independent public school to win it.
BOYS' BASKETBALL
1918 Lexington
1919 Lexington
1920 Lexington
1921 Manual
1922 Lexington
1923 Manual
1924 Lexington
1925 Manual
1926 St. Xavier
1927 Millersburg Military Institute
1928 Ashland
1929 Heath
1930 Corinth
1931 Manual
1932 Hazard
1933 Ashland
1934 Ashland
1935 St. Xavier
1936 Corbin
1937 Midway
1938 Sharpe
1939 Brooksville
1940 Hazel Green
1941 Inez
1942 Lexington Lafayette
1943 Hindman
1944 Harlan
1945 Male
1946 Breckinridge Training
1947 Maysville
1948 Brewers
1949 Owensboro
1950 Lexington Lafayette
1951 Clark County
1952 Cuba
1953 Lexington Lafayette
1954 Inez
1955 Hazard
1956 Carr Creek
1957 Lexington Lafayette
1958 St. Xavier
1959 North Marshall
1960 Flaget
1961 Ashland
1962 St. Xavier
1963 Seneca
1964 Seneca
1965 Breckinridge County
1966 Shelby County
1967 Earlington
1968 Glasgow
1969 Central
1970 Male
1971 Male
1972 Owensboro
1973 Shawnee
1974 Central
1975 Male
1976 Edmonson County
1977 Ballard
1978 Shelby County
1979 Lafayette
1980 Owensboro
1981 Simon Kenton
1982 Laurel County
1983 Lexington Henry Clay
1984 Logan County
1985 Hopkinsville
1986 Pulaski County
1987 Clay County
1988 Ballard
1989 Pleasure Ridge Park
1990 Fairdale
1991 Fairdale
1992 University Heights
1993 Marion County
1994 Fairdale
1995 Breckinridge County
1996 Paintsville
1997 Eastern
1998 Scott County
1999 Ballard
2000 Elizabethtown
2001 Lexington Lafayette
2002 Lexington Catholic
2003 Mason County
2004 Warren Central
2005 South Laurel
BOYS' BASKETBALL
1918 Lexington
1919 Lexington
1920 Lexington
1921 Manual
1922 Lexington
1923 Manual
1924 Lexington
1925 Manual
1926 St. Xavier
1927 Millersburg Military Institute
1928 Ashland
1929 Heath
1930 Corinth
1931 Manual
1932 Hazard
1933 Ashland
1934 Ashland
1935 St. Xavier
1936 Corbin
1937 Midway
1938 Sharpe
1939 Brooksville
1940 Hazel Green
1941 Inez
1942 Lexington Lafayette
1943 Hindman
1944 Harlan
1945 Male
1946 Breckinridge Training
1947 Maysville
1948 Brewers
1949 Owensboro
1950 Lexington Lafayette
1951 Clark County
1952 Cuba
1953 Lexington Lafayette
1954 Inez
1955 Hazard
1956 Carr Creek
1957 Lexington Lafayette
1958 St. Xavier
1959 North Marshall
1960 Flaget
1961 Ashland
1962 St. Xavier
1963 Seneca
1964 Seneca
1965 Breckinridge County
1966 Shelby County
1967 Earlington
1968 Glasgow
1969 Central
1970 Male
1971 Male
1972 Owensboro
1973 Shawnee
1974 Central
1975 Male
1976 Edmonson County
1977 Ballard
1978 Shelby County
1979 Lafayette
1980 Owensboro
1981 Simon Kenton
1982 Laurel County
1983 Lexington Henry Clay
1984 Logan County
1985 Hopkinsville
1986 Pulaski County
1987 Clay County
1988 Ballard
1989 Pleasure Ridge Park
1990 Fairdale
1991 Fairdale
1992 University Heights
1993 Marion County
1994 Fairdale
1995 Breckinridge County
1996 Paintsville
1997 Eastern
1998 Scott County
1999 Ballard
2000 Elizabethtown
2001 Lexington Lafayette
2002 Lexington Catholic
2003 Mason County
2004 Warren Central
2005 South Laurel
12-05-2005, 03:29 AM
no independent single
not member of all a
those go by different numbers
not member of all a
those go by different numbers
12-05-2005, 03:31 AM
1976 Edmonson County
This looks like the first one to have an actual chance although they are AA now.
1967 Earlington
This is possible. There is no longer a high school there. The only thing I could find was Earlington Elementary School which is near the Madisonville/Hopkinsville area. I have no info on this school.
This looks like the first one to have an actual chance although they are AA now.
1967 Earlington
This is possible. There is no longer a high school there. The only thing I could find was Earlington Elementary School which is near the Madisonville/Hopkinsville area. I have no info on this school.
12-05-2005, 03:34 AM
lexington hearld had an article on how many private schools champs there had been in the last 10 and 15 years
I think we may be surprised
I think we may be surprised
12-05-2005, 03:36 AM
The last 10 years was a bonus feature I was going to add to each individual sport breakdown so everyone will be able to see it once I start getting the information done. I'm being lazy right now watching ESPN
12-05-2005, 10:08 AM
So why has no one answered the questions I asked in my first post?
Someone please rationally answer all of my questions fro my first post, please!
I can't wait to see.
Someone please rationally answer all of my questions fro my first post, please!
I can't wait to see.
12-05-2005, 10:08 AM
I'll recap them for everyone so it will be easier for you.
12-05-2005, 10:10 AM
I'll just repost it, read it, and aswer all of my questions....
I have a question for you all.
Someone offers you a Ferrari. Loaded, free.
And at the same time someone offers you the exact same car, for anywhere between 4 & 6 thousand dollars.
Which one are you going to take?
Public schools have it all on themselves to open the districts and allow anyone, it's not the state's decision. Look at Highlands and Beechwood up here, independent school districts, can charge a reasonable tuition and take anyone they want. What makes them different from a private school? God?
I hate to say it b/c I respect everyone who has posted in this thread but Gimme a freaking break.
If you're school can not take kids from "out of district" talk to your administrators. It's their decision, no one elses. Louisville has open enrollment, anyone that lives there can go to any school they want, doesn't that give Male a huge advantage?
Isn't that what this country is founded on anyway, freedom. Go where you want, that should be everyone's right.
You will never tell me it is advantage to go to a private school, it costs more to go to NCC than to Northern Kentucky University and most other state schools, that right there eliminates 95% of the amount of kids that might want to go there. There is no student loan for high school, and we don't give free tuition, I assure you.
Recruit, of course we recruit, that 5% that can afford to go to our school, needs to know that that option is there, what we have to offer, and what sets us apart from Newport High School right down the street, and ladies and gents, I went there, my family has gone there, that has as little to do with sports as it possibly could.
Are all private schools on the up and up, I'm sure they're not. But you know what, don't blame all for one's transgressions, stick to your guns, force schools to abide by your rules, and enforce your rulings. For those schools such as mine, with all of our "advantages". Advantages such as not even having a baseball field, football field, track, auditorium for that matter, please, get over yourselves and your insecurity and your petty bickering and open your districts, quit your whining, and hit the weights.
Am I saying we work harder than everyone else, maybe we do, I don't know, I assure it's not b/c of some perceived advantage we have b/c we are a private school.
Newport Central CATHOLIC won it's first state football championship in 21 years tonight, and I'm on cloud 9 b/c of it. For about 15 straight years we were ousted by a school 100 students smaller than us, Beechwood, and dominated by them pretty much every one of those years, they can take a kid from Guatamala, charge them a fee and move on, what makes them any different than us?
No one will be able to answer that with a logical answer.
For those 15 years or so did you hear anyone at all in the state bitching and moaning about Beechwood being able to take anyone they wanted? No, why not? I'm asking?
This whole argument is ridiculous, come up with rules and enforce them, and then hopefully this whole issue will go away.
I have a question for you all.
Someone offers you a Ferrari. Loaded, free.
And at the same time someone offers you the exact same car, for anywhere between 4 & 6 thousand dollars.
Which one are you going to take?
Public schools have it all on themselves to open the districts and allow anyone, it's not the state's decision. Look at Highlands and Beechwood up here, independent school districts, can charge a reasonable tuition and take anyone they want. What makes them different from a private school? God?
I hate to say it b/c I respect everyone who has posted in this thread but Gimme a freaking break.
If you're school can not take kids from "out of district" talk to your administrators. It's their decision, no one elses. Louisville has open enrollment, anyone that lives there can go to any school they want, doesn't that give Male a huge advantage?
Isn't that what this country is founded on anyway, freedom. Go where you want, that should be everyone's right.
You will never tell me it is advantage to go to a private school, it costs more to go to NCC than to Northern Kentucky University and most other state schools, that right there eliminates 95% of the amount of kids that might want to go there. There is no student loan for high school, and we don't give free tuition, I assure you.
Recruit, of course we recruit, that 5% that can afford to go to our school, needs to know that that option is there, what we have to offer, and what sets us apart from Newport High School right down the street, and ladies and gents, I went there, my family has gone there, that has as little to do with sports as it possibly could.
Are all private schools on the up and up, I'm sure they're not. But you know what, don't blame all for one's transgressions, stick to your guns, force schools to abide by your rules, and enforce your rulings. For those schools such as mine, with all of our "advantages". Advantages such as not even having a baseball field, football field, track, auditorium for that matter, please, get over yourselves and your insecurity and your petty bickering and open your districts, quit your whining, and hit the weights.
Am I saying we work harder than everyone else, maybe we do, I don't know, I assure it's not b/c of some perceived advantage we have b/c we are a private school.
Newport Central CATHOLIC won it's first state football championship in 21 years tonight, and I'm on cloud 9 b/c of it. For about 15 straight years we were ousted by a school 100 students smaller than us, Beechwood, and dominated by them pretty much every one of those years, they can take a kid from Guatamala, charge them a fee and move on, what makes them any different than us?
No one will be able to answer that with a logical answer.
For those 15 years or so did you hear anyone at all in the state bitching and moaning about Beechwood being able to take anyone they wanted? No, why not? I'm asking?
This whole argument is ridiculous, come up with rules and enforce them, and then hopefully this whole issue will go away.
12-05-2005, 10:12 AM
MR.INCREDIBLE Wrote:I'm sure not every private school recruits illegally, on the same token, I know it does happen. 98 you will have to agree with me on that, however there is something in your post that jumped out at me while I read it.....your words were "Every single player on NCC's team THIS YEAR is from NKY." With statements like that, surely you can understand how people make the conclusion that illegal recruiting is rampant, regardless of whether it is or not.To answer your question.
There have been maybe, and by maybe I am guessing, but it is a very educated guess that in the last 10 years there may have been 3 or possibly 4 players on NCC's team that did not live in NKY.
And of those 3 or 4, I think 1 actually saw the field.
12-05-2005, 03:00 PM
98NCCalum Wrote:So why has no one answered the questions I asked in my first post?
Someone please rationally answer all of my questions fro my first post, please!
I can't wait to see.
Don't worry 98. I'm in the process of extensive research over the next few days to try to settle this debate once and for all (or atleast give each side plenty of fire power to play with :big grin: .) Since I started my research I've taken a neutral stand until I can be positive of all the facts. I'm not sure which way it will start to turn out yet but it should look rather impressive as a whole whether it help leads to a decision or not (as well as very organized.) Until then :yesno:
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