[Stardust]

I didn't say that Plan B would be Air Matney. :biggrin:

What I am saying is that if Highlands contains Jude early in the game, Matney will make adjustments. Highlands will not contain Jude for an entire game.

How did Bell and Boyle beat JC, and what must they do to avoid that from happening against a team that is slightly below their caliber?

[sstack]

I didn't say that Plan B would be Air Matney. :biggrin:

What I am saying is that if Highlands contains Jude early in the game, Matney will make adjustments. Highlands will not contain Jude for an entire game.

"ALL" Highlands fans know they will not shut down Jude. The goal is to bend, but not break and hold to FG tries(although I think JC will go for it on 4Th down and not try FG's).

[sstack]

How did Bell and Boyle beat JC, and what must they do to avoid that from happening against a team that is slightly below their caliber?

Stardust, do you think Bell and Boyle are better than HHS or just stating JC fans perception? Past years there was no doubt HHS was better, this year I have not seen either aboved mentioned, so have no opinion.

[Stardust]

Stardust, do you think Bell and Boyle are better than HHS or just stating JC fans perception? Past years there was no doubt HHS was better, this year I have not seen either aboved mentioned, so have no opinion.

No, but I am just playing along.

[Hoot Gibson]

How did Bell and Boyle beat JC, and what must they do to avoid that from happening against a team that is slightly below their caliber?

JMO, but I think that Bell wore down some of JC's players by throwing long early and often, forcing J. K. Hall to chase receivers toward the end zone. Johnson Central lost a lot of players from its line last season and they have improved greatly over the course of the season. Bell was big and physical and they also have plenty of speed. IMO, Bell may be the best team in the state. The game probably would have been closer if it had been played in Paintsville but Bell County was definitely the better team at that point in the season.

Boyle County is a very solid team and Johnson Central gave them a very good game early in the season on a neutral field that was a long way from home. If a few more breaks had gone their way, JC played well enough to win the game.

If JC avoids getting burned by Highlands' long passing game, I think that they have a great shot of winning. The team showed against CovCath that they are in great condition, so I don't think fatigue will be as much a factor as it was against Highlands last season.

I expect that Johnson Central will challenge Highlands to stop J. J. Jude early, just as they did CovCath. If they can't, then Highlands better hope that their offense can keep up. If Highlands does stop Jude early, then I think that you will see Hall and Bratton carrying the ball much more than they did against CovCath. Bratton and Ousley will soften up the middle of Highlands' defense and Jude will eventually find some holes if they are not there for him early.

At least, that is what my crystal ball says. :biggrin:

[Hoot Gibson]

No, but I am just playing along.

So to summarize, you have not seen Jude play but you are certain that Elliott is the best running back in the state and you have not seen Bell or Boyle County play but you are certain that Highlands is better than either. Is that a fair statement? :biggrin:

[Redneck]

JMO, but I think that Bell wore down some of JC's players by throwing long early and often, forcing J. K. Hall to chase receivers toward the end zone. Johnson Central lost a lot of players from its line last season and they have improved greatly over the course of the season. Bell was big and physical and they also have plenty of speed. IMO, Bell may be the best team in the state. The game probably would have been closer if it had been played in Paintsville but Bell County was definitely the better team at that point in the season.

Boyle County is a very solid team and Johnson Central gave them a very good game early in the season on a neutral field that was a long way from home. If a few more breaks had gone their way, JC played well enough to win the game.

If JC avoids getting burned by Highlands' long passing game, I think that they have a great shot of winning. The team showed against CovCath that they are in great condition, so I don't think fatigue will be as much a factor as it was against Highlands last season.

I expect that Johnson Central will challenge Highlands to stop J. J. Jude early, just as they did CovCath. If they can't, then Highlands better hope that their offense can keep up. If Highlands does stop Jude early, then I think that you will see Hall and Bratton carrying the ball much more than they did against CovCath. Bratton and Ousley will soften up the middle of Highlands' defense and Jude will eventually find some holes if they are not there for him early.

At least, that is what my crystal ball says. :biggrin:

The JC/Boyle game was at JC wasn't it? I know JC played Knox at a nuetral sight, played it at Clay County.

[Hoot Gibson]

The JC/Boyle game was at JC wasn't it? I know JC played Knox at a nuetral sight, played it at Clay County.

You are correct, sir. I was thinking about the Knox game. Thanks for the catch.

[Eagle Pride 90`]

Stardust, do you think Bell and Boyle are better than HHS or just stating JC fans perception? Past years there was no doubt HHS was better, this year I have not seen either aboved mentioned, so have no opinion.

I have seen Boyle the last two years, Bell the last two years, and Highlands the last three years (including three times on the internet this year). IMO Bell at log mountain is better than HHS. I also feel HHS is at least two touchdowna beter than Boyle. Boyle was very fortunate to get a win over JC this season. They had an all new front line O and D. It was the first game of the season. At one time in the second half Hall, Jude, Bratton, and Ousley were laying on the field with cramps. JC also starts four sophomores and a freshman on defence so a opponent like Boyle that early in the season was a tough task. It was a one score margin of victory.

Bell is by far the best team we have played.
The most under-rated team we have played is Knox.

JC was in the game in the first half against Bell in the first half and Bell stepped it up a notch in the second half. I don't want to say JC quit but they did not respond the way championship teams do.

I think JC can beat HHS because they are very simalar to Ryle and Ryle whipped them for three quarters. The thing that impresses me the most about this HHS team is the fact that they never quit and they never consider themselves beaten. If there was another minute on the clock they may have beaten Ryle. If JC beats HHS it will be because they played every second of the game with maximum effort. Any less and HHS will take it.

[whackem'n'stackem']

As I said, my questions were aimed at the illogical comments that whack'em made about Jude. I know very little about Elliott but I do know that J. J. Jude had more total yards against CovCath this season than Highlands did - a lot more. If Highlands does not begin Friday's game keying on Jude, then they will need to make a quick adjustment to their game plan.

You worry about JC. Our Birds will be ready.

[whackem'n'stackem']

If Johnson Central beats Highlands, then Coach Matney will begin preparing for the next game immediately, but preparation for this week's game began as soon as Highlands eliminated the Golden Eagles from the playoffs last season. You can bet that he has some tricks in his bag that have been put there just for the Highlands game.

Stop hoot, you're killing me.:biggrin:

[Hoot Gibson]

Stop hoot, you're killing me.:biggrin:

I agree, figuratively speaking, of course. :biggrin:

[Bob Seger]

You worry about JC. Our Birds will be ready.

"Our" Birds??????

I thought you were on the outside looking in? :confused:

[whackem'n'stackem']

If Johnson Central beats Highlands, then Coach Matney will begin preparing for the next game immediately, but preparation for this week's game began as soon as Highlands eliminated the Golden Eagles from the playoffs last season. You can bet that he has some tricks in his bag that have been put there just for the Highlands game.

Hope they're not dirty.:dontthink

[Matman]

That is awesome! Who was the All American?

I may be wrong but I believe his name was Diaz.

[Brave Soul]

I may be wrong but I believe his name was Diaz.

Diaz was AA at 141lbs. J.J. is around 175. Even if this happened I wouldn't read to much in to that.

[Hoot Gibson]

I may be wrong but I believe his name was Diaz.

Maybe this is the guy. I have never seen Jude wrestle but after watching him on a football field, it is scary to think of him wrestling in the 145 lb. class. I wonder if he will wrestle in that class this year or move up to 155.

[redstorm]

JJ is a NAIA player at best. His size will kill him, he is a running back only and someone tell me how many white running backs there are running the football in a D1 program.

[SweetLemonade]

Maybe this is the guy. I have never seen Jude wrestle but after watching him on a football field, it is scary to think of him wrestling in the 145 lb. class. I wonder if he will wrestle in that class this year or move up to 155.

Jude has put on some size, I think itll be difficult for him to even drop to 155. He'll probably wrestle 160 this year or so.

[SweetLemonade]

JJ is a NAIA player at best. His size will kill him, he is a running back only and someone tell me how many white running backs there are running the football in a D1 program.

Jude is much better than that of a NAIA running back, his size hurt him some but who says he has to play running back? He could go big as a corner possibly, but I look to see jude go D1 in wrestling.

[Matman]

I don't think his size hurts him at all. He has a good frame and low hips. The average height for a D1 running back is 5'10". JJ is 5'9". Emmit Smith was 5'9" and so is Warrick Dunn. JJ is 175lbs as a Junior. He will easily be able to weigh 185-190 by college. For wrestling I would say he will go 152. That would put him at about 160 throughout the season. Then look for him to hit 180 for next football season.

[Matman]

Diaz was AA at 141lbs. J.J. is around 175. Even if this happened I wouldn't read to much in to that.

Your kidding right? JJ is one weight class above him. What do you think a D1 141lbs wrestler walks around at during the off season. I weighed 237lbs during football and cut to 189 for wrestling. Our 152 came in at almost 200lbs for wrestling camp one year. So don't look too much into what someone wrestles during the season.

[Brave Soul]

Your kidding right? JJ is one weight class above him. What do you think a D1 141lbs wrestler walks around at during the off season. I weighed 237lbs during football and cut to 189 for wrestling. Our 152 came in at almost 200lbs for wrestling camp one year. So don't look too much into what someone wrestles during the season.

No I am not kidding J.J. wrestled 160 last year. That means he is 2 weight classes above him. Ther is NO WAY J.J. will ever get back below 150.
So in that case I don't care what this kids walking around weight is, he is still considerably smaller than J.J. As for J.J. throwing him to his back well that kind of thing happens! He probably wasn't there for long and also probably spent the rest of the week taking it to J.J.

I might also add that J.J. was a heavy favorite to win the 160 Lb. weight class last season, but he was pinned in the semi finals by a kid that he whipped 2 weeks prior. So like I said those things happen!!

[flavor-splash]

I think last night against CovCath he reached 3000 rushing yards.

Is that for another state record?

they dont count post season in single season rushing stats like for instance the individual rushing tital this year goes to corey lyle from greenup jude is second behind him

[cj2561]

It is a good player. If he play a for a coach that don't like to run the score up. what kind of number will he have.

[Poseidon]

Of Coarse he is one of Ky's best as far as stats go, I am not segregating EKY from the rest of the state, that is done too much.

[DALE]

It is a good player. If he play a for a coach that don't like to run the score up. what kind of number will he have.

This post will obviously not get much consideration because the format, spelling and grammar are similar to what my 4 month old nephew can produce. Not to sound like the grammar police, but you write in a lot of threads displaying lack of intelligence and incoherent thoughts about whatever you are trying to portray. If you are going to make such a bold statement, such as the one above, please take the time out to actually think it out before you come off with a horrendous post.

As you would say, "he play for a coach that like to run the score up." My take on the situation would be that Mr. Jude plays for an offensive genius. Coach Matney has developed the talent to where it needs to be for JC to be successful and run his offense to near perfection. The majority on this very site cries foul when JC puts points on the board and then the skeptics come out to criticize when they don't light it up. It's a darned if you do, darned if you don't situation for these kids. Why? Because Johnson Central used to be the doormat in EKY. Teams would salivate at the idea of having the Eagles roll into town for Senior Night or Homecoming. As we speak, Mr. Matney and company have elevated themselves into a very respectable ball team.

"what kind of number will he have" Well, that's another good question. My guess is that he would probably not have the 586 or 437 yard games. Not because he couldn't, JJ is without a doubt one of the better running backs that I have had the pleasure of watching play. If he played for a team that utilized the belly, then yes, he would have some huge nights similar to the ones above. If he played for a 60-40 running team, then I could see him average 190-220 a game. If you haven't had the chance, please go to ihigh.com and watch the CovCath game. One play that really stands out in my mind is not any of the long TD's or the carrying of 3 defenders as he fought for extra yardage most of the night. The play I'm making reference to is in the 3rd Quarter, Mr. Jude was almost in the clear but was horse-collared by the CovCath defender. He did not go down, nor lose any of his forward momentum instantaneously. JJ had the physical ability to keep his body's center of gravity in front of his hips, kick his legs to help sustain balance and gain another 5-10 yards. That is impressive. (Now, before you discredit my quick little Physics lesson, anyone that has taken an Engineering Physics course and 4 Calculus classes will agree that via calculations, free-body diagrams, vector analysis and proofs, that this is in fact no small feat.) I say congratulations Mr. Jude on a fabulous season that I'm sure all of Johnson County will cherish forever.

What will his legacy be? JJ is still writing it.

[HazBeen10]

Jude is an outstanding RB. As a JC follower i cant vouch he is the best RB in school history surpassing many great players such as Blume and Grimm. Jude works extremely hard in the off season and has earned everything he gets. He is on a bestfriend basis with all of his line and they seem to respect him and enjoy blocking for him. Its assuring having such team chemistry that the line knows if they lay every ounce of energy on the line for him, he will lay it on the line for the team and that is the chemistry and difference in JC this yr and in the past. JC is clicking on all cylinders and im excited for friday night.

[BoondockSaint]

they dont count post season in single season rushing stats like for instance the individual rushing tital this year goes to corey lyle from greenup jude is second behind him

This isn't the NFL, post-season stats count for the entire year just as the regular season stats. All yards from every game go to each and every kids career totals. Its been that way since records started being kept in KY.

[#1 Blackcat Fan]

IMO, he is one of the best ever in the state period.