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runninrebs21 · 11-06-2009, 12:38 AM

Horrible call there at the end.. But they shouldn't have been that close in the first place. LEBRON NEEDS TO QUIT PASSING LATE IN THE GAME!!!! Mo needs to stop shooting so many stupid shots, and most importantly..... MIKE BROWN NEEDS TO BE FIRED! He has never been able to coach, LeBron just makes him look good. They won't win a championship until they get a new coach. And if they wait til this season is over, LeBron will be gone..

**Stardust** · 11-06-2009, 12:56 AM

The chemistry on this team is just plain bad. I am not a fan of Shaq and this offense. he gets in the way and takes the lanes away from the slashers on this offense. I'm not saying it won't work, but right now they are just plain awful. I'm not a fan of Mike Brown, but this really has nothing to do with him. This is 100% about personell. What changed from this years team from last, when the Cavs were on pace for the best record in NBA history - Shaq and the style of play that you have to prescribe to when he is on the floor. They run so much better when he is not on the floor. He is trying, and I have been impressed by his effort, but when they have to play 1/2 court offense, they area completely different team than last year.

***Wildcatk23*** · 11-06-2009, 01:15 AM

runninrebs21 Wrote:Horrible call there at the end.. But they shouldn't have been that close in the first place. LEBRON NEEDS TO QUIT PASSING LATE IN THE GAME!!!! Mo needs to stop shooting so many stupid shots, and most importantly..... MIKE BROWN NEEDS TO BE FIRED! He has never been able to coach, LeBron just makes him look good. They won't win a championship until they get a new coach. And if they wait til this season is over, LeBron will be gone..

You know that ball hit the rim on the other end and it should have been Bulls ball.

***Wildcatk23*** · 11-06-2009, 01:17 AM

Stardust Wrote:The chemistry on this team is just plain bad. I am not a fan of Shaq and this offense. he gets in the way and takes the lanes away from the slashers on this offense. I'm not saying it won't work, but right now they are just plain awful. I'm not a fan of Mike Brown, but this really has nothing to do with him. This is 100% about personell. What changed from this years team from last, when the Cavs were on pace for the best record in NBA history - Shaq and the style of play that you have to prescribe to when he is on the floor. They run so much better when he is not on the floor. He is trying, and I have been impressed by his effort, but when they have to play 1/2 court offense, they area completely different team than last year.

Your right, they should have got a center that could run the floor and play a fast pace game. They dont need SHAQ to be in the way all the time. Hes not what he used to be. but hey there year wade won with him they lost a bunch of games. maybe they will get it together by playoff time,

runninrebs21 · 11-06-2009, 01:23 AM

No the ball did NOT hit the rim. You could clearly see it went over the rim off the backboard.

***Wildcatk23*** · 11-06-2009, 01:29 AM

runninrebs21 Wrote:No the ball did NOT hit the rim. You could clearly see it went over the rim off the backboard.

Yes it did lol, the rim moved, u could see it.

**Stardust** · 11-06-2009, 01:31 AM

The refs were pretty adament about it after they reviewed it on tape

***Wildcatk23*** · 11-06-2009, 01:34 AM

Stardust Wrote:The refs were pretty adament about it after they reviewed it on tape

Adament - utterly unyielding in attitude or opinion in spite of all appeals, urgings, etc

So your saying u think it hit or not?

**NYY10** · 11-06-2009, 12:40 PM

Wildcatk23 Wrote:Yes it did lol, the rim moved, u could see it.

The ball did hit the rim
you could clearly see it after the replay.
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**Strikeout King** · 11-06-2009, 01:05 PM

Shaq needs to retire.

csabo17 · 11-06-2009, 01:16 PM

You cant expect a ref to take the game in his hands at the end either. Lebron has to get a clean shot off, not try to draw a foul in that situation.

**Amun-Ra** · 11-06-2009, 10:57 PM

Is Delonte west playing yet? He is a big part of that team.

I actually disagree with the majority here and say that Shaq helps the Cavs. He gives them an inside preesence that they have not had. Now LeBron doesn't have to carry the team all the time and rely on jump shots all game. Shaq demands a double team in the post. When it doesnt come he scores or gets fouled. Teams know if they double him LeBron is gonna be wide open. So what do you do?

***Wildcatk23*** · 11-07-2009, 03:12 AM

Amun-Ra Wrote:Is Delonte west playing yet? He is a big part of that team.

I actually disagree with the majority here and say that Shaq helps the Cavs. He gives them an inside preesence that they have not had. Now LeBron doesn't have to carry the team all the time and rely on jump shots all game. Shaq demands a double team in the post. When it doesnt come he scores or gets fouled. Teams know if they double him LeBron is gonna be wide open. So what do you do?

Yea the shaq from 3 years ago. watch them play, they wont double him.

and west is playing.

runninrebs21 · 11-07-2009, 04:41 AM

THEY NEED TO TRADE FOR STEPHEN JACKSON!!! The warriors supposedly offered them Jackson in exchange for Ilgauskus and the Cavs won't do it