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Trump's Tariffs : Canada and Mexico Announce Plans for Retaliatory Strikes
#31
(02-04-2025, 01:58 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-04-2025, 01:01 PM)TD Hounds Wrote:
(02-04-2025, 11:52 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-04-2025, 11:47 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-04-2025, 11:00 AM)SEKYFAN Wrote: These "concessions" are just for show.  They will not slow down the drug flow in the least, but as long as his minions are buying it, it's a win for him.   Again, Trump is going around trying to bully his smaller neighbors and allies because that's what he does.  Is this really what Americans want?  Apparently almost 50% do, which sadly says a lot about the direction our Country is going  Speaking for myself though, I want and expect a lot more from the leaders of the US.
A commitment of 10,000 Mexican troops along the border is a pretty big show. I will never understand people who are so politically biased that they hope that their own country fails.

I am skeptical of tariffs myself, but if Joe Biden had not been a Walking Dead, Do-Nothing president and tried using tariffs as leverage to stem the flow of fentanyl and illegal aliens into this country, I would have been hoping that he succeeded. 

How can any American citizen be opposed to saving lives lost to poisonous drugs and violent criminal aliens?. Why are you so eager to see Trump fail, regardless of his objectives? You never explain why leaving violent criminal illegal aliens alone and ignoring the fentanyl issue associated with an open border is a good thing. Instead, you give us a non-stop Trump hate fest.
They don’t have answers to this because their isn’t an answer for them just like when you ask them what country has prospered under socialism….One is even a self avowed communist who gets on here and worries about democracy being destroyed, riddle me an answer to that nonsense….Spoiled kids who’ve turned into spoiled adults that have never heard the sound of leather quickly being jerked through belt loops and it shows
Anything that Biden was for, they were for. Anything Trump is for, they are against. The only thing that they gain by posting is an opportunity to attack Trump supporters and to repost liberal propaganda. The thread doesn't matter, the positions are the same.

In the words of failed VP and failed presidential candidate, Kamala Harris, when asked what she would have done differently, "Nothing comes to mind." In a nutshell, that answer can accurately predict the BGR liberals' position in any thread. WWJBD?
And that is why they continue to lose but refuse to understand, no one wants their lala land crap, quite a bit of democrats defected to vote against it, but here we are on BGR pretending the elections next week and Trumps gonna lose….

(02-04-2025, 03:47 PM)SEKYFAN Wrote:
(02-04-2025, 12:43 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-04-2025, 12:27 PM)SEKYFAN Wrote:
(02-04-2025, 11:52 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-04-2025, 11:47 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: A commitment of 10,000 Mexican troops along the border is a pretty big show. I will never understand people who are so politically biased that they hope that their own country fails.

I am skeptical of tariffs myself, but if Joe Biden had not been a Walking Dead, Do-Nothing president and tried using tariffs as leverage to stem the flow of fentanyl and illegal aliens into this country, I would have been hoping that he succeeded. 

How can any American citizen be opposed to saving lives lost to poisonous drugs and violent criminal aliens?. Why are you so eager to see Trump fail, regardless of his objectives? You never explain why leaving violent criminal illegal aliens alone and ignoring the fentanyl issue associated with an open border is a good thing. Instead, you give us a non-stop Trump hate fest.

Looking at it objectively, which I realize that you can't, face it, Trump blinked.  He stated that there was absolutely nothing that Canada or Mexico could do to avoid the tariffs.  Was he lying?  The markets started to tank and there were warnings that grocery prices and auto prices would increase, so Trump pretty much backed down and them claimed a victory.   Mexico moved 10,000 troops to the border last year at Biden's request, so where is this victory? 

I will give him credit for addressing the drug problem anyway as the Biden administration did very little to curb it.  I don't really understand the emphasis on Canada though, only .2% of the fentanyl seized last year was at the Canadian border.
I can't be objective?  Big Grin Coming from somebody who never criticized Joe Biden during his four-year presidency, I will take that criticism for what it's worth.

You don't understand Trump's threatening Canada with tariffs because you confuse Democrat propaganda with news and you have no need for the truth. If Trump is for it, then you are against it. Reading real news would be a waste of your time.

I have criticized Biden many times, still waiting on any of Trump's klan to do so.  I guess they are scared to speak up like the Politicians and right wing pundits who make fun of him behind his back and then laugh all the way to the bank.   I call things as I see them, not how Fox News or CNN see them.  Trump has a few qualities that help him as President.  He knows how to use a bully pulpit and is very unpredictable, which can work to keep his opponents cautious.  He apparently has charisma which attracts and keeps his minions in line.
I can’t remember the thread but it’s not been that long ago that me and Hoot both stated we’d rather someone besides Trump had gotten the nomination, so your either not keeping up or refusing to acknowledge what’s not meeting your agenda….All that being said as of now I’m very happy with OUR President Donald Trump….All these liberal tears could take care of the California water shortage
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#32
I remember that TD! And I've said before Trump was never my first choice as President, BUT when it comes down to the final two in the election; there wasn't a contest for me.
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#33
(02-04-2025, 12:27 PM)SEKYFAN Wrote:
(02-04-2025, 11:52 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-04-2025, 11:47 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-04-2025, 11:00 AM)SEKYFAN Wrote:
(02-04-2025, 02:11 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: This has been another thread where Trump has made the BGR liberal cabal look like fools. Both Canada and Mexico have made quick concessions in response to Trump's tariffs and Trump delayed the imposition of tariffs to allow time for further negotiations. 

Isn't it great having a real president in charge of the Whitehouse again? 

I really like the fact that Trump signs so many documents in public while answering questions from the media. We may never know who really signed most documents that bear Joe Biden's signature. I want to see proof that Biden actually signed thousands of pardons and executive orders.

These "concessions" are just for show.  They will not slow down the drug flow in the least, but as long as his minions are buying it, it's a win for him.   Again, Trump is going around trying to bully his smaller neighbors and allies because that's what he does.  Is this really what Americans want?  Apparently almost 50% do, which sadly says a lot about the direction our Country is going  Speaking for myself though, I want and expect a lot more from the leaders of the US.
A commitment of 10,000 Mexican troops along the border is a pretty big show. I will never understand people who are so politically biased that they hope that their own country fails.

I am skeptical of tariffs myself, but if Joe Biden had not been a Walking Dead, Do-Nothing president and tried using tariffs as leverage to stem the flow of fentanyl and illegal aliens into this country, I would have been hoping that he succeeded. 

How can any American citizen be opposed to saving lives lost to poisonous drugs and violent criminal aliens?. Why are you so eager to see Trump fail, regardless of his objectives? You never explain why leaving violent criminal illegal aliens alone and ignoring the fentanyl issue associated with an open border is a good thing. Instead, you give us a non-stop Trump hate fest.

Looking at it objectively, which I realize that you can't, face it, Trump blinked.  He stated that there was absolutely nothing that Canada or Mexico could do to avoid the tariffs.  Was he lying?  The markets started to tank and there were warnings that grocery prices and auto prices would increase, so Trump pretty much backed down and them claimed a victory.   Mexico moved 10,000 troops to the border last year at Biden's request, so where is this victory? 

I will give him credit for addressing the drug problem anyway as the Biden administration did very little to curb it.  I don't really understand the emphasis on Canada though, only .2% of the fentanyl seized last year was at the Canadian border.
Trump wasn't lying he was NE-GO-TI-A-TING. And it WORKED. Also Mexico never moved 10,000 troops to the border, otherwise illegal aliens wouldn't have been able to walk into this country by the millions whenever they felt like it. And the markets weren't going to tank over tariffs, that's lib propaganda to make Dems "angry and afraid" for the millionth time. The market went up during record inflation under Biden, tariffs on a small percentage of our GDP and imports aren't going to tank the markets. And anyone repeating "trade war" is an idiot. That would cripple Canada and Mexico and we would feel it little if any at all.
#34
^ I also said that Trump made a mistake picking J. D. Vance as his running mate. I could not have been more wrong with that analysis.
#35
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...62f5&ei=22

Trump crying wolf over tariffs has already convinced Wall Street that threats will be short-lived.

"President Trump again retreated from imposing aggressive taxes on U.S. consumers," UBS chief economist Paul Donovan wrote in a Tuesday morning note seen by Fortune. "Although taxes on goods from Mexico and Canada are in theory delayed for a month, after three retreats in a row markets are unlikely to take that threat seriously."

But that doesn't mean there has been no impact, the UBS economist notes
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"The long-term consequences remain. Foreign countries have less reason to trust that the U.S. will honor trade treaties, reducing the incentive to make concessions," Donovan continues. "U.S. consumers may have had a fright over trade taxes, changing their behavior."


an investment company where Siegel is senior economist—the expert writes: "Growth remains steady, with jobless claims at a healthy 207,000 and GDP tracking between 2.5% and 3% for the first quarter. This isn’t an environment that screams urgent rate cuts, particularly when core inflation metrics remain on target."

Siegel adds, "Trump’s new tariffs are not smart either economically or politically…the political impact is likely to be very negative for Trump’s program, as the rise in prices (gasoline and some food items) will have high visibility in the mainstream media and put pressure on some legislators."
#36
More mindless libtard cut and paste from libtard propaganda sites. Lazy and ignorant. I'm sure it made you "angry and afraid"
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#37
^ More Trump hated and liberal propaganda. How objective of you!  Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

I eagerly await examples of your alleged frequent criticism of Biden.
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#39
For people who think we are the only country that should never have tariffs while most other countries have tariffs on our goods, there is this

https://x.com/seanmdav/status/1886182505486684445

Still crickets from libtards if they think all those other countries that have much higher tariffs than us are intentionally trying to hurt their own citizens as much as they can.
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#41
(02-04-2025, 05:02 PM)Granny Bear Wrote: I remember that TD!  And I've said before Trump was never my first choice as President, BUT when it comes down to the final two in the election; there wasn't a contest for me.
Absolutely, when it came down to the final two of either one Biden or Harris….Democrats have a real problem too Newsom will probably win the nomination next time and he’s only marginally better than Willie Browns playmate…..

(02-04-2025, 06:33 PM)jetpilot Wrote: More mindless libtard cut and paste from libtard propaganda sites. Lazy and ignorant. I'm sure it made you "angry and afraid"
No nauseous and constipated…..
#42
Mark Cuban delivers a shocking take on Donald Trump's trade war.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...2bf8&ei=23


“I’m going to put my rich guy hat on and say I hope that Mexico and Canada issue equal, retaliatory tariffs and stick to them for an extended period.”
In the same post, Cuban acknowledged that such a measure would indeed negatively impact many people, but stressed the importance of seeing the bigger picture. “It's the only way for tariffs to be seen for what they are,” he added.
As part of the thread, Cuban commented and predicted that despite what he hoped would happen, both countries would likely follow Colombia’s example and quickly reach an agreement with Trump, enabling him to claim victory despite little change.


In September 2024, Trump threatened to levy a 200% tariff against John Deere DE if the farm equipment manufacturer moved its operations to Mexico. Cuban quickly hit back in a social media post, calling Trump out for his lack of business understanding.
As he highlighted, imposing higher tariffs on a prominent U.S. manufacturer than its Chinese rivals did would likely lead to products from John Deere’s competitors being sold in the U.S. for less.

“Good way to destroy a legendary American company and increase costs to American buyers," he noted, adding that there is substantial evidence that tariffs are inflationary.
#43
(Yesterday, 01:57 PM)SEKYFAN Wrote: Mark Cuban delivers a shocking take on Donald Trump's trade war.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...2bf8&ei=23


“I’m going to put my rich guy hat on and say I hope that Mexico and Canada issue equal, retaliatory tariffs and stick to them for an extended period.”
In the same post, Cuban acknowledged that such a measure would indeed negatively impact many people, but stressed the importance of seeing the bigger picture. “It's the only way for tariffs to be seen for what they are,” he added.
As part of the thread, Cuban commented and predicted that despite what he hoped would happen, both countries would likely follow Colombia’s example and quickly reach an agreement with Trump, enabling him to claim victory despite little change.


In September 2024, Trump threatened to levy a 200% tariff against John Deere DE if the farm equipment manufacturer moved its operations to Mexico. Cuban quickly hit back in a social media post, calling Trump out for his lack of business understanding.
As he highlighted, imposing higher tariffs on a prominent U.S. manufacturer than its Chinese rivals did would likely lead to products from John Deere’s competitors being sold in the U.S. for less.

“Good way to destroy a legendary American company and increase costs to American buyers," he noted, adding that there is substantial evidence that tariffs are inflationary.
Isn't Mark Cuban the guy who claimed Trump avoids hiring smart women? 

If you are going to argue about tariffs, at least cite a credible source. Mark Cuban should stay in his narrow lane. 

If you want to make a compelling argument, then watch Milton Friedman make the case against tariffs. Trump is using tariffs as a negotiating tool and has been very successful so far. 

Mark Cuban is a clown.
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#44
"Mark Cuban says" lol...we need smarter libs on here...
#45
(Yesterday, 02:45 PM)jetpilot Wrote: "Mark Cuban says" lol...we need smarter libs on here...
Here is a scary thought. With all of the defections from the Democrat Party, what if this is now the cream of the crop?

Of course, I am just kidding, but maybe with another few tens of million new Republicans, we could be seeing the future of the Democrat Party.
#46
(Yesterday, 05:12 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(Yesterday, 02:45 PM)jetpilot Wrote: "Mark Cuban says" lol...we need smarter libs on here...
Here is a scary thought. With all of the defections from the Democrat Party, what if this is now the cream of the crop?

Of course, I am just kidding, but maybe with another few tens of million new Republicans, we could be seeing the future of the Democrat Party.

It's already scary that there are tens of millions of Dems that act and talk just like our very own BGR midwits.

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