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How can kids be eligible when transfering after school starts?
#1
I have followed the 13th region for nearly 40 years, I am seeing things this year that I have never seen before lol. By my count their have been 6 transfers to other schools after the school year has started and not one address change(allegedly). How is this possible and is the KHSAA not doing any enforcement at all? This doesn't take into account the amount of summer transfers with no change of address. Has AAU destroyed basketball where everyone wants a superteam? Make it make sense
#2
Look at the mountain lions this season, coach for middlesboro gets let go and goes to pineville a week before the season, half the team goes with him. No change of address.
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(12-07-2024, 03:04 PM)Gridiron_Raid Wrote: Look at the mountain lions this season, coach for middlesboro gets let go and goes to pineville a week before the season, half the team goes with him. No change of address.
Yeah those are a couple of the ones I knew about in addition to one from WC and 3 from Jackson. Summer recruiting has happened as long as I have been around, heck I was recruited(I won't say the school lol)its part of it. But never seen it after school started.
#4
There is a new landscape in basketball---HS and College. It could be the ruination of sport.
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#5
The KHSAA is completely overwhelmed with the amount of transfers they have to deal with. They simply don't have the staffing to keep tabs on all of them. I think as long as there is a change of address on paper, and no complaint is made about it being false, it gets pushed along and ruled eligible. Even if there is a complaint, I know for a fact that the KHSAA puts it upon the school to ensure the address is legit, so a lot of the time they go along with it.
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(12-07-2024, 03:42 PM)Fanman Wrote: The KHSAA is completely overwhelmed with the amount of transfers they have to deal with. They simply don't have the staffing to keep tabs on all of them. I think as long as there is a change of address on paper, and no complaint is made about it being false, it gets pushed along and ruled eligible. Even if there is a complaint, I know for a fact that the KHSAA puts it upon the school to ensure the address is legit, so a lot of the time they go along with it.
I can honestly say that I know of 2 times they have actually investigated/substantiated transfers in the last 4 years. They sure do have a lot of people that vote(at least on the videos they post lol) on rule changes, Be nice if they actualy enforced a little.....I just have never seen transfers after school started especially the number we have.
#7
I can almost guarantee that there’s a “change of address” in the KHSAA system. Odds of it happening in real life are slim, though. It’s not hard to make it happen if you know the right people. And coaches doing this for a while know the right people.
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#8
Actually ,there are more than one way to become eligible. The rules of eligibity fall upon how the transfer is filled out. The sending and receiving schools usually work it out to allow a kid to play. The most common is a bonafide change of address and usually a follow up by the KHSAA is not asked for.
#9
There's really nothing in the rules about transferring after the school year starts.
There's a handful of exceptions and the "bona fide" change of address is the one that's the easiest to jam through.

A few years ago, Perry Central had two kids they were fighting with for eligibility.
Deandre Reed transferred from Georgia (from Cordia originally) and he had to sit out a year and started playing late in the season.
Marquis Frazier transferred from Cordia and he was ruled eligible officially by the KHSAA a couple days before his year was up (great work, KHSAA).

One kid transferred in via the foster care system midseason and was eligible immediately.
#10
It's all smoke and mirrors. In reality KHSAA has nothing to do with it. It's all about the $$$$.

If you have deep enough pockets, anybody can play anywhere and at anytime.

I'm sorry if that offends you, but IMO, it's simply the truth.
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(12-10-2024, 10:16 AM)Granny Bear Wrote: It's all smoke and mirrors.  In reality KHSAA has nothing to do with it.  It's all about the $$$$.

If you have deep enough pockets, anybody can play anywhere and at anytime.

I'm sorry if that offends you, but IMO, it's simply the truth.
Winner, winner chicken dinner.
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(12-10-2024, 10:16 AM)Granny Bear Wrote: It's all smoke and mirrors.  In reality KHSAA has nothing to do with it.  It's all about the $$$$.

If you have deep enough pockets, anybody can play anywhere and at anytime.

I'm sorry if that offends you, but IMO, it's simply the truth.

Its true. I had a KHSAA staff member actually tell me that if you appeal and hire an attorney, you're pretty much guaranteed to win and become eligible.
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#13
The KHSAA learned long ago that no matter how important they think they are, judges can still spank their ass.
At some point they just quit trying
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(12-10-2024, 11:16 AM)Fanman Wrote:
(12-10-2024, 10:16 AM)Granny Bear Wrote: It's all smoke and mirrors.  In reality KHSAA has nothing to do with it.  It's all about the $$$$.

If you have deep enough pockets, anybody can play anywhere and at anytime.

I'm sorry if that offends you, but IMO, it's simply the truth.
Probably have a list of “in network” attorneys they will supply haha
Its true. I had a KHSAA staff member actually tell me that if you appeal and hire an attorney, you're pretty much guaranteed to win and become eligible.
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(12-07-2024, 03:04 PM)Gridiron_Raid Wrote: Look at the mountain lions this season, coach for middlesboro gets let go and goes to pineville a week before the season, half the team goes with him. No change of address.
Yes it doesn't matter that he was fired for use of illegal substances, promoting players using racial and offensive language and other rumors I've heard.  No way I would have that guy involved at my school.
#16
(12-10-2024, 10:16 AM)Granny Bear Wrote: It's all smoke and mirrors.  In reality KHSAA has nothing to do with it.  It's all about the $$$$.

If you have deep enough pockets, anybody can play anywhere and at anytime.

I'm sorry if that offends you, but IMO, it's simply the truth.


Little to do with money in reality, it has to do with the fact that the KHSAA can never win a court case if challenged, because the bylaws of the KHSAA constitution don't hold up in court, and court supersedes KHSAA.
#17
It happens so much and so often, its so in everyone's face that's its practically a joke at this point.
#18
Yeah it’s not as much to do with money (outside of the fact that it usually takes money to hire an attorney lol) but the fact there is a legal precedent to grant injunctions to kids against the KHSAA to prevent them from keeping the kids from playing.

The lawyers argue that if they can’t play it causes irreparable harm by keeping them from getting a scholarship and the judge grants the injunction.
#19
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I think before a judge will hear it you have to be so far along into the process?

You have to have the KHSAA’s initial ruling, you appeal, KHSAA rules on the appeal, and if the ruling is ineligible you can take it to court?
#20
I hear the KHSAA doesn’t rule on the eligibility cases anymore, that they have turned all decisions/rulings over to three judges in different parts of the state. The judges hear or read the cases presented to them and decide on the eligibility. Usually if the school that the student athlete is transferring from has no objection on the transfer the rulings usually are approved and it’s on to the next case.
At least this is what I’ve been told. I was in high school athletics as coach and AD for many years but I’ve been retired many years ago and not up on all the new KHSAA rules and policies.
#21
And ALL of this process and procedure takes $$$$. Add political influence and power and you have an equivalency.

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