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02-10-2009, 10:15 PM
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02-11-2009, 12:24 AM
way 2 go Pike Central..awesome game !!!
02-11-2009, 12:59 AM
So, unless something has changed because of the Super-District, Pike Central should be the #1 seed. Is this correct?
IV) District Tournament Seeding Regulations
A) For district tournaments with three teams, the district tournament
shall be seeded in accordance with the following three-team
seeding regulations:
1) Each team in a three-team district is required to play the other
two teams in the district in two contests each year, at mutually
agreed sites. These games will produce a uniform means of
ranking the teams by seed within these districts.
2) The team with the highest seed (one seed) receives a bye in the
district tournament, and advances to the championship game.
3) The remaining two teams would play in the first round of the district tournament with the loser of that game being eliminated.
4) [COLOR="Red"]In the case of a two-way tie for the district winning position,
the winner in the second game played between the tied district opponents would have the higher finishing position.[/COLOR]
5) In the case of a three-way tie for the district winning position, the tie would be resolved in the following manner. If any of the tie-breakers results in one of the teams being ahead of the other two, the tie is broken. If any of the tie-breakers result in two teams remaining ahead of the third, then the two-way tie-breaker shall be used to determine the winner between those two.
a) The tie-breaking mechanisms (in order) shall be:
i) If the tie remains between all three teams, the record in the
second game played against all district opponents involved
in the tie.
ii) If the tie remains between all three teams, the record in the first game played against all district opponents involved in the tie.
iii) If the tie remains between all three teams, then the total points allowed in all seeded games shall be the next tiebreaker.
iv) If the tie remains between all three teams, then the total points allowed in the second of each of the seeded games shall be the next tie-breaker.
v) If the tie is still unbreakable, then a blind draw among the three teams shall break the tie.
b) Additional tie-breaking mechanisms could be added, and would be uniform for all three-team districts.
page 57
IV) District Tournament Seeding Regulations
A) For district tournaments with three teams, the district tournament
shall be seeded in accordance with the following three-team
seeding regulations:
1) Each team in a three-team district is required to play the other
two teams in the district in two contests each year, at mutually
agreed sites. These games will produce a uniform means of
ranking the teams by seed within these districts.
2) The team with the highest seed (one seed) receives a bye in the
district tournament, and advances to the championship game.
3) The remaining two teams would play in the first round of the district tournament with the loser of that game being eliminated.
4) [COLOR="Red"]In the case of a two-way tie for the district winning position,
the winner in the second game played between the tied district opponents would have the higher finishing position.[/COLOR]
5) In the case of a three-way tie for the district winning position, the tie would be resolved in the following manner. If any of the tie-breakers results in one of the teams being ahead of the other two, the tie is broken. If any of the tie-breakers result in two teams remaining ahead of the third, then the two-way tie-breaker shall be used to determine the winner between those two.
a) The tie-breaking mechanisms (in order) shall be:
i) If the tie remains between all three teams, the record in the
second game played against all district opponents involved
in the tie.
ii) If the tie remains between all three teams, the record in the first game played against all district opponents involved in the tie.
iii) If the tie remains between all three teams, then the total points allowed in all seeded games shall be the next tiebreaker.
iv) If the tie remains between all three teams, then the total points allowed in the second of each of the seeded games shall be the next tie-breaker.
v) If the tie is still unbreakable, then a blind draw among the three teams shall break the tie.
b) Additional tie-breaking mechanisms could be added, and would be uniform for all three-team districts.
page 57
02-11-2009, 01:26 AM
I think that Pike Central had to beat Phelps by 14 or more to become 1st seed.
Congratulations Lady Hawks!
Keep it up!
Congratulations Lady Hawks!
Keep it up!
02-11-2009, 01:30 AM
Just Ball It Wrote:I think that Pike Central had to beat Phelps by 14 or more to become 1st seed.
Congratulations Lady Hawks!
Keep it up!
Pretty sure your right on that one JBI
02-11-2009, 01:40 AM
I'm going to stick to my guns and say that Pike Central gets the #1 seed because they won the second game against Phelps, unless something changed this year. This happened to Belfry girls two years ago against Pike Central.
If I'm wrong, I'll be more than glad to admit it though.
If I'm wrong, I'll be more than glad to admit it though.
02-11-2009, 01:45 AM
Who knows which team will be at the receiving end of the "stick it to ya" club this year???? It's going to be interesting.... and IMHO... probably ... UH..... better keep that one to myself!!! HAHAHA.....
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02-11-2009, 01:49 AM
It really doesn't bother me either way. It happened to Belfry two years ago and either way, Belfry is a 3 seed. 
02-11-2009, 01:53 AM
phs1986 Wrote:Who knows which team will be at the receiving end of the "stick it to ya" club this year???? It's going to be interesting.... and IMHO... probably ... UH..... better keep that one to myself!!! HAHAHA.....
From the conversation David Rowe and I had Pike Central will get the two seed and that is what they are expecting to get. From the way he said the rules read for the 59th West if the records are the same and the two teams have split their games then the team who won by the larger spread gets the higher seed.
02-11-2009, 02:06 AM
You very well could be right. If they used the 4 or more teams rules from the KHSAA handbook, then what you're saying may be what they voted on. I'm just throwing things out for argument sake.
B) For district tournaments with four or more teams, the district
tournament brackets may be drawn by random lot or placed into
the bracket using a seeding system. A majority vote (recorded
in writing) of the Principals, Athletic Directors or Designated
Representatives of the schools in the district is required in order
to make or change seeding decisions. In the absence of any
documentation, minutes or other verifi cation, the districts shall
not be seeded. The regulations concerning the seeding of a district
with four or more teams are as follows:
1) [COLOR="Red"]The decision to seed and the method used in seeding (including
all tie-breakers) shall be determined by majority vote of the
participating teams in the district and the manager shall
record this vote in writing and submit it to the Association. The
representatives making the written declaration shall decide all
issues related to seeding,[/COLOR]58 2008-2009 KHSAA HANDBOOK
Tournament Rules Tournament Rules
2) Seeding methods shall be determined prior to the start of the
regular season, recorded in writing with a copy provided to the
KHSAA, and shall remain in place until a majority vote of the
participating schools rescinds or changes the seeding decisions.
Such changes to the district seeding plan may not be made for
the current year once play has begun in the regular season.
3) In the event of dispute, the current copy on fi le with the KHSAA
shall prevail in determining resolution.
4) Seeding plans may, at the discretion of the majority vote of
the schools, stipulate a particular team to a particular seeded
position.
5) It shall be the district tournament managerâs responsibility
to update the Association with respect to any changes to
the seeding decision or method being used and any relevant
tiebreakers. In the absence of this documentation, consultation
with, and written verifi cation and documentation from, prior
year tournament managers, will be utilized by staff to assist
with interpretation and clarifi cation.
6) There is no statewide regulation on a seeding method once
the determination has been made to seed. Some of the more
common and recommended means of seeding is the record of
games played within a district provided all teams have played
all other teams. In that case, each district shall adopt tiebreaking
procedures in the event that the primary method of
seeding results in a tie or other situations arise which cause an
alteration in the scheduled seeding method. Among the more
common tie-breaking methods are 1) seeding by overall winloss
record; seeding by win-loss record in specifi c contests, 3)
seeding by a rating/ranking from a statewide poll, 3) seeding by
a majority vote, 4) seeding by a committee, and 5) seeding by a
rating turned in by each school.
7) If win-loss records are used for seeding, the records used shall
be the records as of the date of the pre-tournament meeting
as published on the KHSAA memorandum calendar. Teams and
school representatives may meet during the regular season
to discuss tournament operations (i.e. dates, times, sites,
tournament personnel needs, etc.). However if an organizational
meeting is held prior to the published date on the calendar, no
discussions may be held regarding the bracketing or pairings of
specifi c teams unless all mandated seeded games have been
played prior to the meeting. Games played after the published
meeting date SHALL NOT factor into the seeded position.
8) Seeded games unable to be played for any reason (with the
exception of verifi ed forfeited contests) prior to the published
date for the district tournament meetings will be recorded as a
win and a loss for both teams in computing seeded position.
9) If a change in the alignment of teams moves a single new
team into a previously seeded district, the previous decision as
to seeding shall prevail. If the new team enters the alignment
following the completion of all game contracts and the new
team is unable to schedule all required opponents, the new team
shall be seeded in the last position for the current season, and
shall be included in seeded game scheduling for the subsequent
seasons.
10) If a change in the alignment of teams moves more than one
team into a seeded district, the district teams shall conduct a
new vote as to seeding. A tie vote will result in the seeding
decision remaining the same.
11) If the Board of Control approves a total realignment of teams
within a district, the teams in the district shall conduct a new
vote as to seeding. A tie vote in this situation shall result in the
district being not seeded.
B) For district tournaments with four or more teams, the district
tournament brackets may be drawn by random lot or placed into
the bracket using a seeding system. A majority vote (recorded
in writing) of the Principals, Athletic Directors or Designated
Representatives of the schools in the district is required in order
to make or change seeding decisions. In the absence of any
documentation, minutes or other verifi cation, the districts shall
not be seeded. The regulations concerning the seeding of a district
with four or more teams are as follows:
1) [COLOR="Red"]The decision to seed and the method used in seeding (including
all tie-breakers) shall be determined by majority vote of the
participating teams in the district and the manager shall
record this vote in writing and submit it to the Association. The
representatives making the written declaration shall decide all
issues related to seeding,[/COLOR]58 2008-2009 KHSAA HANDBOOK
Tournament Rules Tournament Rules
2) Seeding methods shall be determined prior to the start of the
regular season, recorded in writing with a copy provided to the
KHSAA, and shall remain in place until a majority vote of the
participating schools rescinds or changes the seeding decisions.
Such changes to the district seeding plan may not be made for
the current year once play has begun in the regular season.
3) In the event of dispute, the current copy on fi le with the KHSAA
shall prevail in determining resolution.
4) Seeding plans may, at the discretion of the majority vote of
the schools, stipulate a particular team to a particular seeded
position.
5) It shall be the district tournament managerâs responsibility
to update the Association with respect to any changes to
the seeding decision or method being used and any relevant
tiebreakers. In the absence of this documentation, consultation
with, and written verifi cation and documentation from, prior
year tournament managers, will be utilized by staff to assist
with interpretation and clarifi cation.
6) There is no statewide regulation on a seeding method once
the determination has been made to seed. Some of the more
common and recommended means of seeding is the record of
games played within a district provided all teams have played
all other teams. In that case, each district shall adopt tiebreaking
procedures in the event that the primary method of
seeding results in a tie or other situations arise which cause an
alteration in the scheduled seeding method. Among the more
common tie-breaking methods are 1) seeding by overall winloss
record; seeding by win-loss record in specifi c contests, 3)
seeding by a rating/ranking from a statewide poll, 3) seeding by
a majority vote, 4) seeding by a committee, and 5) seeding by a
rating turned in by each school.
7) If win-loss records are used for seeding, the records used shall
be the records as of the date of the pre-tournament meeting
as published on the KHSAA memorandum calendar. Teams and
school representatives may meet during the regular season
to discuss tournament operations (i.e. dates, times, sites,
tournament personnel needs, etc.). However if an organizational
meeting is held prior to the published date on the calendar, no
discussions may be held regarding the bracketing or pairings of
specifi c teams unless all mandated seeded games have been
played prior to the meeting. Games played after the published
meeting date SHALL NOT factor into the seeded position.
8) Seeded games unable to be played for any reason (with the
exception of verifi ed forfeited contests) prior to the published
date for the district tournament meetings will be recorded as a
win and a loss for both teams in computing seeded position.
9) If a change in the alignment of teams moves a single new
team into a previously seeded district, the previous decision as
to seeding shall prevail. If the new team enters the alignment
following the completion of all game contracts and the new
team is unable to schedule all required opponents, the new team
shall be seeded in the last position for the current season, and
shall be included in seeded game scheduling for the subsequent
seasons.
10) If a change in the alignment of teams moves more than one
team into a seeded district, the district teams shall conduct a
new vote as to seeding. A tie vote will result in the seeding
decision remaining the same.
11) If the Board of Control approves a total realignment of teams
within a district, the teams in the district shall conduct a new
vote as to seeding. A tie vote in this situation shall result in the
district being not seeded.
02-11-2009, 02:23 AM
ImagineThat! Wrote:You very well could be right. If they used the 4 or more teams rules from the KHSAA handbook, then what you're saying may be what they voted on. I'm just throwing things out for argument sake.
B) For district tournaments with four or more teams, the district
tournament brackets may be drawn by random lot or placed into
the bracket using a seeding system. A majority vote (recorded
in writing) of the Principals, Athletic Directors or Designated
Representatives of the schools in the district is required in order
to make or change seeding decisions. In the absence of any
documentation, minutes or other verifi cation, the districts shall
not be seeded. The regulations concerning the seeding of a district
with four or more teams are as follows:
1) The decision to seed and the method used in seeding (including
all tie-breakers) shall be determined by majority vote of the
participating teams in the district and the manager shall
record this vote in writing and submit it to the Association. The
representatives making the written declaration shall decide all
issues related to seeding,58 2008-2009 KHSAA HANDBOOK
Tournament Rules Tournament Rules
2) Seeding methods shall be determined prior to the start of the
regular season, recorded in writing with a copy provided to the
KHSAA, and shall remain in place until a majority vote of the
participating schools rescinds or changes the seeding decisions.
Such changes to the district seeding plan may not be made for
the current year once play has begun in the regular season.
3) In the event of dispute, the current copy on fi le with the KHSAA
shall prevail in determining resolution.
4) Seeding plans may, at the discretion of the majority vote of
the schools, stipulate a particular team to a particular seeded
position.
5) It shall be the district tournament managerâs responsibility
to update the Association with respect to any changes to
the seeding decision or method being used and any relevant
tiebreakers. In the absence of this documentation, consultation
with, and written verifi cation and documentation from, prior
year tournament managers, will be utilized by staff to assist
with interpretation and clarifi cation.
6) There is no statewide regulation on a seeding method once
the determination has been made to seed. Some of the more
common and recommended means of seeding is the record of
games played within a district provided all teams have played
all other teams. In that case, each district shall adopt tiebreaking
procedures in the event that the primary method of
seeding results in a tie or other situations arise which cause an
alteration in the scheduled seeding method. Among the more
common tie-breaking methods are 1) seeding by overall winloss
record; seeding by win-loss record in specifi c contests, 3)
seeding by a rating/ranking from a statewide poll, 3) seeding by
a majority vote, 4) seeding by a committee, and 5) seeding by a
rating turned in by each school.
7) If win-loss records are used for seeding, the records used shall
be the records as of the date of the pre-tournament meeting
as published on the KHSAA memorandum calendar. Teams and
school representatives may meet during the regular season
to discuss tournament operations (i.e. dates, times, sites,
tournament personnel needs, etc.). However if an organizational
meeting is held prior to the published date on the calendar, no
discussions may be held regarding the bracketing or pairings of
specifi c teams unless all mandated seeded games have been
played prior to the meeting. Games played after the published
meeting date SHALL NOT factor into the seeded position.
8) Seeded games unable to be played for any reason (with the
exception of verifi ed forfeited contests) prior to the published
date for the district tournament meetings will be recorded as a
win and a loss for both teams in computing seeded position.
9) If a change in the alignment of teams moves a single new
team into a previously seeded district, the previous decision as
to seeding shall prevail. If the new team enters the alignment
following the completion of all game contracts and the new
team is unable to schedule all required opponents, the new team
shall be seeded in the last position for the current season, and
shall be included in seeded game scheduling for the subsequent
seasons.
10) If a change in the alignment of teams moves more than one
team into a seeded district, the district teams shall conduct a
new vote as to seeding. A tie vote will result in the seeding
decision remaining the same.
11) If the Board of Control approves a total realignment of teams
within a district, the teams in the district shall conduct a new
vote as to seeding. A tie vote in this situation shall result in the
district being not seeded.
Oh I completly understand I wasnt trying to undermind you or anything, was just trying to let you know what I was told by David. :Thumbs:
02-11-2009, 02:24 AM
no insight on this game from anyone?
02-11-2009, 02:29 AM
the thing is.. this is not a 3 team district its a super district with what 6 teams ? and i am pretty sure it goes with a point spread incase of a tie but i had trouble understanding this whole super district thing anyway i mean its a super district but you only count your record in you old district? to determine seeds? looks like you should have had to play every team in both districts... and 4 teams go to the regional ? lots to look at . IMO glad this is the only year we doing this. congrats pcc you played a hard game... AD was the difference from what i saw.
02-11-2009, 10:10 AM
AD was the differance she played a good game she didnt force anything just let the game come to her and when she touched the ball even if she didnt score she passed it back out to the open shot and that is how you win ball games and it is really hard to out rebound her she is so strong under the basket and she is awesome from the free throw line. It really don't matter if pike central is 1st or 2nd seed I think they are gonna come out on top IMO pike central girls and boys have really stepped up over the past few weeks and are playing some good ball, but really with all the talent in the region it just is gonna come down to who wants it more....GO LADY HAWKS!!!
02-11-2009, 11:45 AM
Great game also by Holly Harris, 30 pts, congrats to both AD and Holly on 1000 points.
02-11-2009, 01:27 PM
Holly great game, controlling the court & tempo. Congrats on the 1000 pt club.
AD great game, one of the hardest workers on the team. Congrats on the 1000 pt club and also the 1000 Rebound Club. The 1000 rebounds are awsome, be proud girl.
Question, How many are in the 1000 rebounds club? Anyone know?
AD great game, one of the hardest workers on the team. Congrats on the 1000 pt club and also the 1000 Rebound Club. The 1000 rebounds are awsome, be proud girl.
Question, How many are in the 1000 rebounds club? Anyone know?
02-11-2009, 05:41 PM
Congrats Lady Hawks! The Lady Hornets seem to be sliding a bit.
02-11-2009, 07:48 PM
outdoorsman43 Wrote:Congrats Lady Hawks! The Lady Hornets seem to be sliding a bit.
I wouldn't say that they're sliding. They still have a great team and one of the best in the region. Pike Central had AMAZING (haha) crowd support and Phelps side lacked a bit. But it was a hard fought win, and my congrats to PCC.
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Morehead State Eagle!
02-11-2009, 09:25 PM
Congrats Pike Central--you played well. Still proud of my Hornets though--love to watch them play!! Donathan--you were awesome---way more entertaining than the blue cartwheels!! lol
02-12-2009, 10:29 AM
LC_HAMMER Wrote:close game, but who is phelps coach?
J.R. VanHoose
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