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08-20-2018, 03:54 PM
Fifteen games for four seasons. The maximum amount of varsity contests a football team can compete in during a four year period is sixty games. Not sure when the KHSAA adopted the ten game regular season and five game playoff format, but I have all of the 4, 5 & 6 straight state champions listed. Highlands is the only school with six straight state titles.
With a little bit of research, six schools have won at least four straight state championships. The only team I don't have the info on is the '91-'94 Beechwood squad, so if you have that info, please share it.
Four-peat
Beechwood: '91, '92, '93 & '94.
Belfry: '13, '14, '15 & '16. (NO)
Mayfield: '12, '13, '14 & '15. (NO)
Trinity: '05, '06, '07 & '08. (NO)
Five-peat
Boyle County: '99, '00, '01, '02 & '03. (NO)
Six-peat
Highlands: '07, '08, '09, '10, '11 & '12. (NO)
https://khsaa.org/records/football/footb...nships.pdf
Some great football dynasties, but no 60-0 teams campaigns.
With a little bit of research, six schools have won at least four straight state championships. The only team I don't have the info on is the '91-'94 Beechwood squad, so if you have that info, please share it.
Four-peat
Beechwood: '91, '92, '93 & '94.
Belfry: '13, '14, '15 & '16. (NO)
Mayfield: '12, '13, '14 & '15. (NO)
Trinity: '05, '06, '07 & '08. (NO)
Five-peat
Boyle County: '99, '00, '01, '02 & '03. (NO)
Six-peat
Highlands: '07, '08, '09, '10, '11 & '12. (NO)
https://khsaa.org/records/football/footb...nships.pdf
Some great football dynasties, but no 60-0 teams campaigns.
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08-20-2018, 04:05 PM
Can it be done? Obviously technically yes.
But, that means that there's never a down night against someone who has a realistic shot to beat you, and over 4 years that is asking A LOT.
And, honestly, I'm not really sure I'd want to see that happen. I like seeing new faces in it and winning it.
But, that means that there's never a down night against someone who has a realistic shot to beat you, and over 4 years that is asking A LOT.
And, honestly, I'm not really sure I'd want to see that happen. I like seeing new faces in it and winning it.
08-20-2018, 04:25 PM
Boyle County won five consecutive in a four class system and lost in the finals year six......pretty impressive.
I seriously doubt 60-0 will ever happen.
I seriously doubt 60-0 will ever happen.
08-20-2018, 05:11 PM
Pulp Fiction Wrote:Fifteen games for four seasons. The maximum amount of varsity contests a football team can compete in during a four year period is sixty games. Not sure when the KHSAA adopted the ten game regular season and five game playoff format, but I have all of the 4, 5 & 6 straight state champions listed. Highlands is the only school with six straight state titles.
With a little bit of research, six schools have won at least four straight state championships. The only team I don't have the info on is the '91-'94 Beechwood squad, so if you have that info, please share it.
Four-peat
Beechwood: '91, '92, '93 & '94.
Belfry: '13, '14, '15 & '16. (NO)
Mayfield: '12, '13, '14 & '15. (NO)
Trinity: '05, '06, '07 & '08. (NO)
Five-peat
Boyle County: '99, '00, '01, '02 & '03. (NO)
Six-peat
Highlands: '07, '08, '09, '10, '11 & '12. (NO)
https://khsaa.org/records/football/footb...nships.pdf
Some great football dynasties, but no 60-0 teams campaigns.
Trinity holds the record at 50-0. Boyle came close at 47-0.
When Boyle lost their streak it was vs their crosstown rival Danville and two things factored: Brodie Overstreet was recovering from a severe illness that limited his stamina until mid season and the Rebels had a Sophomore QB making his 3rd start of his career. Brandon Smith had a great career but as a Sophomore he wasn't what he would become.
Takes a lot of luck, scheduling and depth to pull off something like a 60 straight streak. :Thumbs:
FWIW: Boyle only losses from 1999 through 2003 were the 2 in 2002. So in other words, the Rebels were 15-0 in '99, '00, '01, '03.
08-20-2018, 05:18 PM
No. Most you can play in a season is 15 games. So....no.....it will never happen
08-20-2018, 05:23 PM
It could happen, yes, but I'd consider it very unlikely. Not only would a team have to be top of their class, they would also have to never schedule tough outside of their class (unlikely in schools that pride themselves on their team) or just be so dominant that they can beat anyone regardless of class (unlikely due to the up and down nature of talent cycles).
Trinity had a 30 game streak going despite a schedule that involved multiple regional powerhouses, but that schedule inevitably caught up with them as it would with any team. I feel that top programs are more willing now than ever to reach out to tough teams that are distant rather than play an easier local schedule.
Trinity had a 30 game streak going despite a schedule that involved multiple regional powerhouses, but that schedule inevitably caught up with them as it would with any team. I feel that top programs are more willing now than ever to reach out to tough teams that are distant rather than play an easier local schedule.
08-20-2018, 05:29 PM
Doubtful, but may be challenged. Teams that win 4 straight generally want challenges along the way. I know Belfry went 55-5 in their stretch, losing a couple to Johnson Central, the infamous Pikeville game in 2015, a pretty strong Cabell Midland team in 16 and split the 2-game series with Knoxville Catholic.
These teams often play bowl games to start the year, so those games are usually not cakewalks. Throw in injuries, graduation, and lack of depth in some cases and it just becomes even harder.
Pikeville 33-0 run was fun to watch, and there are better undefeated stretches (Trinity, Bowling Green, Boyle Co, Danville Highlands Breathitt to name a few). None hitting 60-0, but to be fair the 15-game season hasn't been around that long.
I'm not sure I'd like to see it. Maybe. It's kind of like the 40-0 in basketball, or a 19-0 Super Bowl champ. If no one achieves it, the carrot is still out there to chase. But I also don't mind losing streaks. Now the Red Sox and Cubs both as just regular teams - no reason to discuss their many years of losing and curses. If they lost in the playoffs/World Series, it was another year of mystery/history of their franchises and when would the drought end.
These teams often play bowl games to start the year, so those games are usually not cakewalks. Throw in injuries, graduation, and lack of depth in some cases and it just becomes even harder.
Pikeville 33-0 run was fun to watch, and there are better undefeated stretches (Trinity, Bowling Green, Boyle Co, Danville Highlands Breathitt to name a few). None hitting 60-0, but to be fair the 15-game season hasn't been around that long.
I'm not sure I'd like to see it. Maybe. It's kind of like the 40-0 in basketball, or a 19-0 Super Bowl champ. If no one achieves it, the carrot is still out there to chase. But I also don't mind losing streaks. Now the Red Sox and Cubs both as just regular teams - no reason to discuss their many years of losing and curses. If they lost in the playoffs/World Series, it was another year of mystery/history of their franchises and when would the drought end.
08-20-2018, 05:30 PM
FoSho Wrote:Boyle County won five consecutive in a four class system and lost in the finals year six......pretty impressive.
I seriously doubt 60-0 will ever happen.
Man that sucks, Iâd hate to be them! Said no one ever hahah.
The hell with winning every game Iâd be happy with BCâ stretch of 5 consecutive. Iâm on the same page as Haddix, I donât care if we lose the next 4 games we have. As long as we win the last one. But you have to play that kind of schedule to prepare yourself for that. Any teams that do that will get a loss eventually. So I donât see any team going 60-0. If anyone was going to do it, itâd be trinity, but I guess theyâll have to start it next year if they do haha
08-20-2018, 06:05 PM
RAM-A-DEVIL Wrote:No. Most you can play in a season is 15 games. So....no.....it will never happen
15 games through 4 seasons..... 15x4 = 60
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08-20-2018, 07:11 PM
In this day and age no. When you start winning in year 1 or 2 then people will not schedule you anymore so you end up playing a murderers row of other teams that no one will play and if you're in 6a there's nowhere else to go but big powers out of state. Trinity X BG, Belfry, Johnson Central and others are experiencing this.
08-20-2018, 07:21 PM
Trinity could do it. They just have bigger fish to fry. They could schedule down and not lose a game for four years. Theyâre the only ones that I really could do it though. Also, Iâm surprises trinity hasnât won 4 titles in a row many times.
08-20-2018, 08:13 PM
Single Wing 77 Wrote:Trinity could do it. They just have bigger fish to fry. They could schedule down and not lose a game for four years. Theyâre the only ones that I really could do it though. Also, Iâm surprises trinity hasnât won 4 titles in a row many times.
I think Trinity would have some problems scheduling down. Although there are some schools like Lafayette and PRP who agree to take on the Trinity in the regular season, many others either don't have an open slot or wisely want to avoid the Shamrocks. The AD would also have to deal with some upset fans - because everyone I know would be disappointed not to play at least one or two out-of-state powers - and I can't imagine Coach Beatty being happy about that change either.
We've mostly gotten runs of three: 88, 89, 90 - 01, 02, 03 - 10, 11, 12 Somebody usually catches us when we go for the four-peat.
08-20-2018, 08:23 PM
Former Trinity Head Coach Dennis Lampley hopes it never happens! He has a 50 game streak ring!
Many folks know Louisville Holy Cross stopped the streak in 1991. Victory #50 came against Louisville Central.
To answer the question, yes it will happen one day. It will be difficult as it should be.
Alaskan team had their 67 game win streak snapped the first week of this season.
Many folks know Louisville Holy Cross stopped the streak in 1991. Victory #50 came against Louisville Central.
To answer the question, yes it will happen one day. It will be difficult as it should be.
Alaskan team had their 67 game win streak snapped the first week of this season.
08-20-2018, 08:29 PM
That De La Salle team from California, had a streak of 151. So, obviously, 60 games isn't impossible.
08-20-2018, 08:37 PM
CarzyRock Wrote:I think Trinity would have some problems scheduling down. Although there are some schools like Lafayette and PRP who agree to take on the Trinity in the regular season, many others either don't have an open slot or wisely want to avoid the Shamrocks. The AD would also have to deal with some upset fans - because everyone I know would be disappointed not to play at least one or two out-of-state powers - and I can't imagine Coach Beatty being happy about that change either.
We've mostly gotten runs of three: 88, 89, 90 - 01, 02, 03 - 10, 11, 12 Somebody usually catches us when we go for the four-peat.
Thatâs what I meant by bigger fish to fry. Theyâre trying to maintain theyâre reputation as a national power, which they should do. I donât think they would have as much trouble scheduling down though. Money is a big motivator, and they can travel long dostances to play games. Iâm sure they could find 6 teams they could easily beat within ky, Indiana, Ohio, Illinois, and Tennessee. Iâm just saying that is doable for them if the chose to do so.
08-20-2018, 09:26 PM
If a program did go 60-0 through four seasons, does that eclipse Highlands six straight state title run?
I say yes. If a program is able to go 60-0 through four seasons, IMO, that would make them the best team dynasty (not program dynasty) in KY. football history.
The NFL has had one team go undefeated in a season. The 1972 Miami Dolphins went 17-0 and are still brought up every single game when any team is at the 8-0 or 9-0 mark. There has probably been teams since then that could have beat the '72 Dolphins, but they didn't have to play them.... only have to beat who's in front of you.
"Yeah, the Eagles won the Superbowl this year.... but they didn't go undefeated."
"Yeah, Trinity has twenty five state titles, but they never went undefeated through four straight seasons."
"Yeah, Highlands won six straight state championships. but they didn't go undefeated in that stretch."
Being able to own a four year stretch would make you the top dog until somebody matched you or hit the 61-0 mark.
Boxers & MMA stars are bigger draws for the Live events and the Pay Per View buy-rates when they are undefeated and defending their title.
"Introducing the Undefeated & Undisputed Heavyweight champion of the world........"
The intensity and the crowd size of the state championship game when a team is 59-0 and going for that 60-0 mark would be something like we've never seen before.
I say yes. If a program is able to go 60-0 through four seasons, IMO, that would make them the best team dynasty (not program dynasty) in KY. football history.
The NFL has had one team go undefeated in a season. The 1972 Miami Dolphins went 17-0 and are still brought up every single game when any team is at the 8-0 or 9-0 mark. There has probably been teams since then that could have beat the '72 Dolphins, but they didn't have to play them.... only have to beat who's in front of you.
"Yeah, the Eagles won the Superbowl this year.... but they didn't go undefeated."
"Yeah, Trinity has twenty five state titles, but they never went undefeated through four straight seasons."
"Yeah, Highlands won six straight state championships. but they didn't go undefeated in that stretch."
Being able to own a four year stretch would make you the top dog until somebody matched you or hit the 61-0 mark.
Boxers & MMA stars are bigger draws for the Live events and the Pay Per View buy-rates when they are undefeated and defending their title.
"Introducing the Undefeated & Undisputed Heavyweight champion of the world........"
The intensity and the crowd size of the state championship game when a team is 59-0 and going for that 60-0 mark would be something like we've never seen before.
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08-21-2018, 04:04 PM
I really hate it when a coach prepares a schedule with only "wins" in mind. Scheduling weak teams in order to bolster the number of "Ws" under his name does a terrible injustice to his team.
08-21-2018, 05:30 PM
Granny Bear Wrote:I really hate it when a coach prepares a schedule with only "wins" in mind. Scheduling weak teams in order to bolster the number of "Ws" under his name does a terrible injustice to his team.
I don't always give a lot of thought to the "tough scheduling" philosophy. Because realistically, unless you're one of those top tier teams, what you are lacking isn't going to come about from a harder schedule. Most teams who don't compete for a championship lack some combination of size/speed/athleticism. Playing tough teams doesn't make you bigger or faster. But, if you have those things, you need the pressure of big games in the regular season.
I think for a vast majority of teams in the state, scheduling to get wins does far more harm than good. Getting more people out to games, getting more players on the team, those both come from wins.
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