Poll: Should a change be made to districts?
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Yes, rotate districts every year
Yes, do away with district and everybody makes region
No, leave as is
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06-29-2018, 06:33 AM
Great question I've heard proposed.
This has nothing to do with teams changing regions. Those will stay the same.
However, if they aren't going to class sports that need classes like basketball and baseball, should district rotate every year?
Some teams have dominated their districts so long its embarrassing. Some 1A schools are stuck in a district with 3 or 4 5A and 6A schools. Would it be so bad to rotate who is in your district every year?
Pretty much every team plays everyone in their region twice a year anyways. Travel wouldn't be an issue.
History is not that big of a deal. We just changed everything 10 years ago.
Or, should we do away with districts? I'm currently in favor of this. District titles are useless. They mean nothing. I say expand the region tournament where every team gets in. (This can be done without a district tourney) and each team plays region teams once a year at least. Rotate home and away. It would make region much more exciting. Tie breakers could be made if needed and it should be easy to do.
This has nothing to do with teams changing regions. Those will stay the same.
However, if they aren't going to class sports that need classes like basketball and baseball, should district rotate every year?
Some teams have dominated their districts so long its embarrassing. Some 1A schools are stuck in a district with 3 or 4 5A and 6A schools. Would it be so bad to rotate who is in your district every year?
Pretty much every team plays everyone in their region twice a year anyways. Travel wouldn't be an issue.
History is not that big of a deal. We just changed everything 10 years ago.
Or, should we do away with districts? I'm currently in favor of this. District titles are useless. They mean nothing. I say expand the region tournament where every team gets in. (This can be done without a district tourney) and each team plays region teams once a year at least. Rotate home and away. It would make region much more exciting. Tie breakers could be made if needed and it should be easy to do.
06-29-2018, 09:50 AM
I like the super regional idea like you said. Everyone plays each other once and you rank based off of that.
I think districts should change in the 13th region. Makes no sense why you have Williamsburg with two 5Aâs and a soon to be 4A. Then you have Knox Central with three 1Aâs. No reason why KC and Williamsburg shouldnât switch. Iâm sure Williamsburg would be fine with a longer drive if it meant theyâd be going to region more often in various sports.
I think districts should change in the 13th region. Makes no sense why you have Williamsburg with two 5Aâs and a soon to be 4A. Then you have Knox Central with three 1Aâs. No reason why KC and Williamsburg shouldnât switch. Iâm sure Williamsburg would be fine with a longer drive if it meant theyâd be going to region more often in various sports.
06-29-2018, 06:29 PM
I think it's a terrible idea to mess with a system that has so much tradition and history and has worked well for so many years. If you alternate districts you take away the significance of district titles because you have no consistency. Clay could win the 49th one year, then the 52nd the next, so what do you do with those lists on the gym walls around the state? Things like that confuse casual fans and make the sport harder to follow.
You can’t make schools happy that complain about being stuck in one district or the other. They could have their best team in a decade, be ready to win the district and someone gets shifted in that year that beats them. Just play and quit looking for the easy way out.
As far as eliminating districts, you would be taking out an important week of revenue for high schools who draw much bigger crowds that week than they do during the 13 weeks of the regular season. What if you get moved the year you are supposed to host? High schools simply can’t afford to lose any revenue and won’t give away big gates for an idea that really doesn’t solve anything. If you don’t like district tournaments stay home that week.
It sounds like someone wanting to make change for the sake of change or to have something to talk about during the dead period.
You can’t make schools happy that complain about being stuck in one district or the other. They could have their best team in a decade, be ready to win the district and someone gets shifted in that year that beats them. Just play and quit looking for the easy way out.
As far as eliminating districts, you would be taking out an important week of revenue for high schools who draw much bigger crowds that week than they do during the 13 weeks of the regular season. What if you get moved the year you are supposed to host? High schools simply can’t afford to lose any revenue and won’t give away big gates for an idea that really doesn’t solve anything. If you don’t like district tournaments stay home that week.
It sounds like someone wanting to make change for the sake of change or to have something to talk about during the dead period.
06-29-2018, 07:32 PM
I think there are too many districts to start with. You could easily merge each region to 2 districts instead of 4.
Make a district Tournament win mean more. Let the 3rd place team in District tournament in the Region and first game vs a district #2, with District winner getting a bye in first region round.
Make a district Tournament win mean more. Let the 3rd place team in District tournament in the Region and first game vs a district #2, with District winner getting a bye in first region round.
06-29-2018, 08:07 PM
How do you measure how much a district title means with two districts per region instead of four - my guess is it will "mean" exactly the same when those players look back in 20 years.
If you reduce the number of districts and number of teams in the regional tournament you are reducing the proceeds and it does nothing for improving the game - that just isn't going to happen, in my opinion.
The only thing I'd like to see is another regional adjustment to even out the number of teams per region.
If you reduce the number of districts and number of teams in the regional tournament you are reducing the proceeds and it does nothing for improving the game - that just isn't going to happen, in my opinion.
The only thing I'd like to see is another regional adjustment to even out the number of teams per region.
06-30-2018, 12:18 AM
Isnât Clayâs district going to random choice now? Thought that Jackson, OBI, and Redbird voted theyâre going to randomly seed district play now.
06-30-2018, 12:26 AM
Yes, no seeding, but the host school and teams in the tourney aren't changing.
06-30-2018, 01:38 AM
One thing Iâve always disliked is that you can be a district runner-up, but there often seems to be no disadvantage to that. Iâve always felt that the district winner should get to host the first round of the region against a runner up, then the final four could go to one site. I think the Louisville regions do this, and I think the 16th did at one time. I know it will never happen because of money, for example I doubt if the folks in charge at the Arena here in the 13th would be receptive to losing two nights each of boys and girls games. But it would sure add a little juice and more meaning to district championship games.
06-30-2018, 02:58 AM
Ask the kids if we should get rid of district tournaments! Bet you get a big no!!! A lot of kids work hard all year to compete in that event because they are rival teams and the fact that they know they can compete in it easier than a regional tournament! You can still classify after district tournament is over !
07-01-2018, 04:47 PM
Any change that has schools loosing money will never happen
07-01-2018, 07:59 PM
ky playmaker Wrote:Any change that has schools loosing money will never happen
While a valid point in the discussion, Id argue some arent making money now in the current format.
07-01-2018, 08:14 PM
have every team in the region. they half the money with every team in the region. so way not let every team play in the region.
07-01-2018, 08:23 PM
The objective is to get the best team out of the district into the regional tournament and the best team in the regional tournament to Rupp Arena. The best system in the country and the only state that Iâm aware of that has one state champion.
07-01-2018, 11:16 PM
It ain't broke. Don't fix it.
07-02-2018, 05:21 PM
Craze JACKET man Wrote:The objective is to get the best team out of the district into the regional tournament and the best team in the regional tournament to Rupp Arena. The best system in the country and the only state that Iâm aware of that has one state champion.
You arenât getting best 8 teams in region tourney. Seed region. Higher seed play home 1st round then move to arena for final 8.
07-02-2018, 06:28 PM
footballfever Wrote:You arenât getting best 8 teams in region tourney. Seed region. Higher seed play home 1st round then move to arena for final 8.
You can never guarantee getting the best eight teams. I think we've had six or seven of the best eight pretty much every year lately in the 13th.
Your plan eliminates district championship games - that's 128 games around the state where host schools will lost money every year.
That takes money away from the schools and adds nothing.
07-02-2018, 06:41 PM
Have district tourney at beginning of year if itâs about the $. Be a good way to start off the season.
07-02-2018, 08:27 PM
footballfever Wrote:Have district tourney at beginning of year if itâs about the $. Be a good way to start off the season.
And do the football playoffs the same way? Get em over by mid-September!
07-08-2018, 11:43 PM
zaga_fan Wrote:It ain't broke. Don't fix it.
That's the problem though.
It is broke. Its severely broken when Hazard is expected to compete with Scott County for a title.
07-09-2018, 08:11 PM
Hazard and teams like them have the best of both worlds now - they can win an All A Classic state championship and still have a chance to compete in the Sweet Sixteen.
Harlan won two All A titles in the 90s and got to play against the elite teams in the state in the Sweet Sixteen - I'm sure they would rather have done that instead of being limited to just a Class A tourney.
It's confusing what it is you want - if it's class basketball why not just say that instead of playing around with the district/regional system?
Harlan won two All A titles in the 90s and got to play against the elite teams in the state in the Sweet Sixteen - I'm sure they would rather have done that instead of being limited to just a Class A tourney.
It's confusing what it is you want - if it's class basketball why not just say that instead of playing around with the district/regional system?
07-10-2018, 05:31 AM
HCS Wrote:Hazard and teams like them have the best of both worlds now - they can win an All A Classic state championship and still have a chance to compete in the Sweet Sixteen.
Harlan won two All A titles in the 90s and got to play against the elite teams in the state in the Sweet Sixteen - I'm sure they would rather have done that instead of being limited to just a Class A tourney.
It's confusing what it is you want - if it's class basketball why not just say that instead of playing around with the district/regional system?
All A titles are cute and all but they're no state title. Never will be.
I'm 100% in favor of classing all sports. 5 classes for each sport although I would compromise to 3 for baseball, softball, and volleyball, etc. Privates would have to use 1.5 multiplier for enrollment like Tennessee.
We can continue on the way it is or quit delaying the inevitable. Classing all sports will happen. It's not a matter of if but when.
In the meantime I'm in favor of doing away with districts and seeding regions.
07-10-2018, 05:47 AM
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:All A titles are cute and all but they're no state title. Never will be.
Sounds like you've never been around a school that's won one - banners, trophies, road signs, parades - pretty much the same.
Cumberland won two girls All A titles and Harlan won two boys All A titles - I couldn't tell any difference in football Class A titles except the KHSAA isn't on the trophy.
Classes would ruin basketball in Kentucky - I don't see it happening and don't think it's any closer than it was in 1975.
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