[Observing]

in the NBA, John Henson or Miles Plumlee? Henson's higher
draft slot makes it more likely he will, but you can't count out
a Plumlee when it comes to lowering the bar.

[zaga_fan]

Let's open this discussion up a little bit.
Let's say who is going to be the biggest bust and the biggest pickup of the draft.

That sounds a lot more interesting instead of picking 2 players and asking which one of them is going to be the bigger bust.

[Mr. Pike Central]

Henson has had a lot of trouble putting on weight, and his body, with the extremely long legs and short torso, is not really an NBA power forward's body. Henson has no real offensive game to speak of, although he is a solid rebounder, and he doesn't make his foul shots.

[Observing]

Let's open this discussion up a little bit.
Let's say who is going to be the biggest bust and the biggest pickup of the draft.

That sounds a lot more interesting instead of picking 2 players and asking which one of them is going to be the bigger bust.

I was just having fun at the expense of the wannabes on Tobacco road,
both of which got a vastly overrated player, vastly overdrafted this year.

As for the idea of the biggest pickup, do you mean the most impactful
player in the draft period? Or do you mean unheralded player that will
suprise?

If it's the first then obviously it's Davis. If it's the second it might be Darius Miller, whose versatility, and underappreciated athleticism give him the
opportunity to be an impactful player. Or maybe Festus Ezeli who
COULD be what the Bucks seem to think Henson will be. A big body
who can eat defensive space and get rebounds.

[LWC]

Plumlee will probably be the biggest bust, unless Myers Leonard takes the cake.

To me busts and steals are all about draft position. Plumlee would not have a chance to bust if he was a 2nd round pick. I expect NOTHING from a 2nd round pick.

I think the biggest steal is Doron Lamb in the 2nd round. His draft position basically means that if he can be a career 10 PPG scorer, he will be a massive success. Most 2nd rounders don't do much.

Trust me, I know how good a 2nd round player can turn out, just ask my Kings about Isaiah Thomas. The LAST pick of the ENTIRE DRAFT last year, was in serious rookie of the year talks.

[zaga_fan]

I was just having fun at the expense of the wannabes on Tobacco road,
both of which got a vastly overrated player, vastly overdrafted this year.

As for the idea of the biggest pickup, do you mean the most impactful
player in the draft period? Or do you mean unheralded player that will
suprise?

If it's the first then obviously it's Davis. If it's the second it might be Darius Miller, whose versatility, and underappreciated athleticism give him the
opportunity to be an impactful player. Or maybe Festus Ezeli who
COULD be what the Bucks seem to think Henson will be. A big body
who can eat defensive space and get rebounds.

As in getting the most out of their draft pick.
Davis will definitely contribute - but if Thomas Robinson put up the same numbers then I would give TR the nod - theoretically speaking


And Henson will be nothing but a bust...
I could see Miles Plumlee taking up space and being a decent reserve if you get in foul trouble.

[zaga_fan]

Plumlee will probably be the biggest bust, unless Myers Leonard takes the cake.

To me busts and steals are all about draft position. Plumlee would not have a chance to bust if he was a 2nd round pick. I expect NOTHING from a 2nd round pick.

I think the biggest steal is Doron Lamb in the 2nd round. His draft position basically means that if he can be a career 10 PPG scorer, he will be a massive success. Most 2nd rounders don't do much.

Trust me, I know how good a 2nd round player can turn out, just ask my Kings about Isaiah Thomas. The LAST pick of the ENTIRE DRAFT last year, was in serious rookie of the year talks.

Leonard has plenty of upside.
I see him starting somewhere in a few years.

[LWC]

^Myers Leonard doesn't know how big he is. In the highlight packages and in the 2-3 Illinois games that I saw, he does a lot of step-back jumpers and fade away J's, as opposed to taking it strong or using the hook.

I just do not see the hype to be drafted where he was.

[Observing]

As in getting the most out of their draft pick.
Davis will definitely contribute - but if Thomas Robinson put up the same numbers then I would give TR the nod - theoretically speaking


And Henson will be nothing but a bust...
I could see Miles Plumlee taking up space and being a decent reserve if you get in foul trouble.

It absolutely baffles me the love Henson got. He's a shorter, slower, weaker version of Anthony Davis on defense, who would need every inch of that
extra height to be a factor in the NBA. And has no offensive game, and
looks to have no potential to develop one. What you have to grant to
him and teammate Zeller is that that always ran the floor hard in
William's scheme. But his "opffense" came from shooting(maybe
throwing would be more descriptive) in close over shorter players,
and getting run our dunks. He might still sneak a run out in from
time to time, but otherwise how could he ever score? So an
offensive non-entity who will spend his defensive time picking himself
up off teh floor is picked at 14? Go figure.

[Stardust]

MKG may wind up being the biggest bust in the "Tobacco Road" state!

[toussaints]

Plumlee might be a bust, but he'll make the playoffs before MKG and Davis

[Mr. Pike Central]

MKG may wind up being the biggest bust in the "Tobacco Road" state!

Now Dusty...I have to smh at that.

[LWC]

Plumlee might be a bust, but he'll make the playoffs before MKG and Davis

Adam Morrison has a ring or two, what do you think he would prefer: a title or not being a bust?

[zaga_fan]

Adam Morrison has a ring or two, what do you think he would prefer: a title or not being a bust?

It could be worse - He could have played for the Kings

[zaga_fan]

^Myers Leonard doesn't know how big he is. In the highlight packages and in the 2-3 Illinois games that I saw, he does a lot of step-back jumpers and fade away J's, as opposed to taking it strong or using the hook.

I just do not see the hype to be drafted where he was.

I watched a lot of Illinois games this year.
I didn't watch a lot of the draft breakdowns becuase of Church stuff, so I can't comment on that.


But Meyers Leonard does use some mid-range shots - but they are not what he relies on.
Him and Robert Sacre had a battle when they played Gonzaga and Leonard bested him in just about every way he could. Sacre isn't exactly an elite big man - but he is very skilled and went pro on draft day as well.

Leonard needs to get a little stronger and know when to pick his spots. In today's NBA you absolutely need to be able to step out on the baseline and hit 15 footers and his ability to do that as well as he does for his size will go far in regards to keeping an NBA contract

[Stardust]

Now Dusty...I have to smh at that.

Oh, I thought after reading the initial post, this was about posting the most ridiculous comment that you could come up with.....:Shaking:

[toussaints]

Adam Morrison has a ring or two, what do you think he would prefer: a title or not being a bust?

title

[LWC]

It could be worse - He could have played for the Kings

Funny.

Obviously the coaching in Sac-Town is awful. They have Tyreke, DMC and the new Isaiah Thomas. All three were either Rookie of the Year or were in the top 3 voting. (DMC would have won if Blake Griffin's 2nd season wouldn't have counted as a rookie season.) The talent is there but the coaching carousel is killing the team.

Case in point, when Rick Adelman was head coach, he took a team with Ron Artest as its best player to the playoffs. This team has three players better, right now, than Ron Artest.

I have always said that if I had $7 million in a season to spend, I would spend it on a coach before a player. The NBA has rules that a certain amount must be spent on players, no rule about coaches. Paul West-fail (Westphal) and coach small-ball (current coach) are just terrible. I give coach small-ball a chance but if someone better is available get them!

[LWC]

I watched a lot of Illinois games this year.
I didn't watch a lot of the draft breakdowns becuase of Church stuff, so I can't comment on that.


But Meyers Leonard does use some mid-range shots - but they are not what he relies on.
Him and Robert Sacre had a battle when they played Gonzaga and Leonard bested him in just about every way he could. Sacre isn't exactly an elite big man - but he is very skilled and went pro on draft day as well.

Leonard needs to get a little stronger and know when to pick his spots. In today's NBA you absolutely need to be able to step out on the baseline and hit 15 footers and his ability to do that as well as he does for his size will go far in regards to keeping an NBA contract

My point exactly. That is the difference between a big man scrub and an all-star. If he can beef up and change his game to where he learns a hook or an underhanded spin-move, he could be dangerous.

[Observing]

Oh, I thought after reading the initial post, this was about posting the most ridiculous comment that you could come up with.....:Shaking:

No Dream, we leave that strictly up to you. No one wants to
infringe on your territory.

[WALL2WALL]

Plumlee IMO will be no bust. An athletic big like him any team I am sure would love to have him. He set the record at the combine for having the highest vertical recorded for a player 6'11 or taller, 40 inches. That's called being one hell of an athlete.

[LWC]

^Combine stats do not matter if they are not put into your game. Plumlee seems to be athletically gifted, but it does not translate into his floor game.

[Observing]

^Combine stats do not matter if they are not put into your game. Plumlee seems to be athletically gifted, but it does not translate into his floor game.

Evidently being athletically gifted doesn't necessarily even translate
in to being athletically gifted. He may have registered those qualities
in the combine, he didn't show them much on the floor. He's
no Billy Paultz, but he's no Marcus Camby either, to go along
with a less than impressive amount of basketball talent
for a major D-1 big man.

[Amun-Ra]

Plumlee will probably be the biggest bust, unless Myers Leonard takes the cake.

To me busts and steals are all about draft position. Plumlee would not have a chance to bust if he was a 2nd round pick. I expect NOTHING from a 2nd round pick.

I think the biggest steal is Doron Lamb in the 2nd round. His draft position basically means that if he can be a career 10 PPG scorer, he will be a massive success. Most 2nd rounders don't do much.

Trust me, I know how good a 2nd round player can turn out, just ask my Kings about Isaiah Thomas. The LAST pick of the ENTIRE DRAFT last year, was in serious rookie of the year talks.

I agreee there. I was surprised that the Celtics and Thunder passed on him. Boston took Perry jones with that pick, knowing he had bad wheels and of course he gets hurt in summer league. After losing Allen they could have used a guard that can shoot and run point if need be.
The Thunder could use some more shooting as well. Lamb would have made a nice guard to come in for Westbrook and play along side Harden.

[Mountain Pride]

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