[Van Hagar]

I think 4-5 is a stretch for basically any combo. How about one? I mean Lamar, who is great and with a great organization hasn’t won one yet. Josh Allen, who is great and with a good organization hasn’t won one. Patrick Mahomes——ah, hell. But anyway, there are so many good qbs in the AFC right now, (Justin Herbert and CJ Stroud also very good if not quite to the level of the other four) that just getting to the Super Bowl is a major job in this conference.

On another point, the triple crown year Chase just had was probably the worst nightmare for the cheap Bengals front office. Don’t see how you can’t make him the highest paid receiver in football now, which could block some other moves from happening. Bengals are in great shape at skill spots, and they have the most productive edge rusher in the NFL, but they have got to improve the O-line and make major upgrades at linebacker and in the secondary to make a real Super Bowl run in the next five years or so.

[Bluecat]

Maybe one of the biggest offseason for the Bengals that I can remember. Today they already fired several coaches including DC Anarumo, OL, LB, and DL coaches.

[plantmanky]

I dont think Lou was the overall issue with the defense, but I understand parting ways as well.

Just odd, NFL sack leader, fire the DC and DL line coach.