Why is the New England Area so Dominant?

**BFritz** · 11-09-2007, 03:47 PM

Football- Patriots, possibly the greatest football franchise in history because of the past however many years.
Basketball- Yet to be seen, but looks like the Celtics are the favorites to win the title, and the Knicks have always had a solid team.
Baseball- Yankees, Red Sox, enough said.
I believe New England's soccer team is the defending champs.

Is it just because New York City and that general area has the money to put together amazing teams?

I'm sure I'm forgetting some powerhouses.

**DevilsWin** · 11-09-2007, 04:13 PM

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Hornet Nation · 11-09-2007, 04:41 PM

The Knicks haven't been solid for along time but the franchise has been strong in the past

Advance Eagles · 11-09-2007, 05:12 PM

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Bengal Cat · 11-09-2007, 06:34 PM

Yes its because that area has plenty of money. But also......the media in that area is unbelievably hard on the local teams. The media and fanbase in that area hold those teams to a higher standard than most places.

Crossbones · 11-09-2007, 08:39 PM

Now thats funny!!!

**vundy33** · 11-09-2007, 09:20 PM

That vid is hilarious...

**Redneck** · 11-10-2007, 12:23 AM

Cause for the most part the got a bunch of "Good Ole Boys" who play for the love of the game and not money.

**Beef** · 11-10-2007, 07:51 AM

Redneck Wrote:Cause for the most part the got a bunch of "Good Ole Boys" who play for the love of the game and not money.

This is a good point, but they also do spend a lot of money on these "Good Ole Boys". So I would have to say that it is money and the strong fan base that demands winning teams.

This is from one of my good friends from Boston:

Quote:Boston currently has the best team in baseball. The best team in football. The best team in basketball. Oh yeah, our soccer team is in the MLS finals. Why not.

**Redneck** · 11-10-2007, 11:11 AM

Beef Wrote:This is a good point, but they also do spend a lot of money on these "Good Ole Boys". So I would have to say that it is money and the strong fan base that demands winning teams.

They do pay some of em alot of money, but they ain't like A-Rod and some others who demand it. Bruschi, Vrabel, Varitek etc. are the ones I was talkin bout. The true leaders, the ones everybody else looks up to.

**jammin' jamey** · 11-10-2007, 02:09 PM

I can't say much for the other teams, but I hate it when jealous fans bash the Red Sox and say they did it with money.

Kevin Youkilis, Dustin Pedroia, Jason Varitek, Jacob Ellsbury, Johnathan Papelbon and Jon Lester have either spent their entire careers in Boston or came up through the Boston orgainization.

David Ortiz was a castaway from Minnesota and Boston took a chance on him. What a chance that was.

Don't get me wrong, they spend the money. Just look at Manny and Dice-K. But the secret of their success may be that they have a balance mix of homegrown talent and game-changing acquistions. They're not "all" about money.

**-STAT-** · 11-10-2007, 07:08 PM

Totally agree with ya JJ.

jammin' jamey Wrote:I can't say much for the other teams, but I hate it when jealous fans bash the Red Sox and say they did it with money.

Kevin Youkilis, Dustin Pedroia, Jason Varitek, Jacob Ellsbury, Johnathan Papelbon and Jon Lester have either spent their entire careers in Boston or came up through the Boston orgainization.

David Ortiz was a castaway from Minnesota and Boston took a chance on him. What a chance that was.

Don't get me wrong, they spend the money. Just look at Manny and Dice-K. But the secret of their success may be that they have a balance mix of homegrown talent and game-changing acquistions. They're not "all" about money.

**Beef** · 11-11-2007, 01:58 AM

jammin' jamey Wrote:I can't say much for the other teams, but I hate it when jealous fans bash the Red Sox and say they did it with money.

I have nothing to be jealous about. I have the Reds and Bengals to cheer for!! Smile

But maybe I should be more clear about what I meant. I know that these players have grown up in the Red Sox system, or at least that is where most of them prospered. The reason they are so good is because they have good/smart coaches to go along with these very talented players. When I brought up the money issue, it was more of the fact that they are in such a big market that they have the ability to keep these "Home Grown" players because they have the money to dish out to them. It's hard for small market teams to keep top notch players because they don't have the cash. So, yes, they do win with money, at least on some part.

I mean the Sox do have the second highest payroll (behind the Yankees) at $143+ Million and this past season paid 5 players (Ramirez, Drew, Ortiz, Schilling, and Varitek) over $10,000,000 each. These 5 combined make more than the total payroll for each of the bottom 8 teams (All small market). But then again, in today's world, it is required that you use money to win.

The Patriots are also ranked second in NFL Salaries (behind the Panthers by a little over $600,000) paying their players $123+ Million. Their top to players receive $24+ Million and $16+ Million.

Celtics are at a low ranking of 4th, paying their players $74+ Million, including the highest paid player in the NBA in Garnett ($23,750,000) and 2 others that receive $16+ Million.

I'm sure these players want to play for these teams, but it does take money to keep them playing in New England.

**jammin' jamey** · 11-13-2007, 12:22 PM

Beef Wrote:I have nothing to be jealous about. I have the Reds and Bengals to cheer for!!

But maybe I should be more clear about what I meant. I know that these players have grown up in the Red Sox system, or at least that is where most of them prospered. The reason they are so good is because they have good/smart coaches to go along with these very talented players. When I brought up the money issue, it was more of the fact that they are in such a big market that they have the ability to keep these "Home Grown" players because they have the money to dish out to them. It's hard for small market teams to keep top notch players because they don't have the cash. So, yes, they do win with money, at least on some part.

I mean the Sox do have the second highest payroll (behind the Yankees) at $143+ Million and this past season paid 5 players (Ramirez, Drew, Ortiz, Schilling, and Varitek) over $10,000,000 each. These 5 combined make more than the total payroll for each of the bottom 8 teams (All small market). But then again, in today's world, it is required that you use money to win.

The Patriots are also ranked second in NFL Salaries (behind the Panthers by a little over $600,000) paying their players $123+ Million. Their top to players receive $24+ Million and $16+ Million.

Celtics are at a low ranking of 4th, paying their players $74+ Million, including the highest paid player in the NBA in Garnett ($23,750,000) and 2 others that receive $16+ Million.

I'm sure these players want to play for these teams, but it does take money to keep them playing in New England.

It does take money to keep them there, I agree with that. But just like you said, the Red Sox are growing their own players and keeping them.

If the Reds had better scouts/farm system, they could keep their players (or at least the better ones like Adam Dunn in recent years who they signed to an extension) and have a winning ball club. Instead, they've drafted game changing players like Chad Motorola with their top picks before 4 years ago when O'Brien came in to make changes.