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#1
kids go through grade school together, but in high school students choose to go to other schools. I'm from Floyd County, and I will never understand why kids go to schools like Pikeville, Pike Central, and Johnson County , etc...when, they can travel a little farther and win a football state title at Belfry. What does playing in a district with Belfry get you, few more practices in basketball? Here is my question. When has a transfer worked out? I'm not talking about a district title, I'm talking about state title! I know Belfry but where else??
#2
^ lol. C'mon man!
#3
This may very well be the dumbest thread ever.
#4
Perry Central has to face this problem year in year out. Kids spend their whole lives coming up through the county schools, but when they get to middle school & high school they switch over to Hazard to compete for 1A championships. It is what it is though.
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sportscritic Wrote:kids go through grade school together, but in high school students choose to go to other schools. I'm from Floyd County, and I will never understand why kids go to schools like Pikeville, Pike Central, and Johnson County , etc...when, they can travel a little farther and win a football state title at Belfry. What does playing in a district with Belfry get you, few more practices in basketball? Here is my question. When has a transfer worked out? I'm not talking about a district title, I'm talking about state title! I know Belfry but where else??

Highlands
#6
sportscritic Wrote:kids go through grade school together, but in high school students choose to go to other schools. I'm from Floyd County, and I will never understand why kids go to schools like Pikeville, Pike Central, and Johnson County , etc...when, they can travel a little farther and win a football state title at Belfry. What does playing in a district with Belfry get you, few more practices in basketball? Here is my question. When has a transfer worked out? I'm not talking about a district title, I'm talking about state title! I know Belfry but where else??

Going to Belfry mostly gets you beat by Johnson Central, in the terms you mentioned.

Good job, Belfry, though. You did what you could, hooray mountains!
#7
sportscritic Wrote:kids go through grade school together, but in high school students choose to go to other schools. I'm from Floyd County, and I will never understand why kids go to schools like Pikeville, Pike Central, and Johnson County , etc...when, they can travel a little farther and win a football state title at Belfry. What does playing in a district with Belfry get you, few more practices in basketball? Here is my question. When has a transfer worked out? I'm not talking about a district title, I'm talking about state title! I know Belfry but where else??

The vast majority of parents send their children to the best academic school they can find. That's why kids are in school, to get an education.
#8
jetpilot Wrote:The vast majority of parents send their children to the best academic school they can find. That's why kids are in school, to get an education.

Wrong, at least not where im from. Russell is the best academic school around this area, but kids are always transferring in to Fairview. Ashland and Raceland. Russell has even lost kids to Raceland. I cant think of too many kids ever coming into Russell. Im not bashing it, if its legal let them play where they want, its their life.
#9
Let me offer another possible explanation for a kid wanting to transfer......sometimes people are not running toward something but away from something else. One way to stop transfers might be to mske sure the kids you've got are treated fairly and respected on and off the field. If kids leave a system they have spent their entire life in there's a reason.
#10
What is this thing called "school choice" that some of you guys are talking about? I live in Pulaski County. Only selectively apportioned choice here.

Families living in the city district (Somerset) can send their kids to any of the three high schools here (Somerset, Pulaski or Southwestern), but those living in the county district have no choice. They attend the county school the government tells them to.
#11
In Perry County schools, basketball is king. In Hazard schools, football is king. Basketball and baseball arent bad at hhs either.
#12
redstone1127 Wrote:One way to stop transfers might be . . .

This basic motive to "stop transfers" baffles me. Who wants to "stop transfers?" Why? For what ultimate purpose? Whom does the "transfer stopping" serve?

My idea: let parents and kids choose their schools. Sure, enforce high school transfer rules as they stand and all the rest, but let's be honest here. Who is more qualified or capable to decide what's in the kid's best interest than the parent? The KHSAA? The local school boards?

Please.
#13
mightydog Wrote:Wrong, at least not where im from. Russell is the best academic school around this area, but kids are always transferring in to Fairview. Ashland and Raceland. Russell has even lost kids to Raceland. I cant think of too many kids ever coming into Russell. Im not bashing it, if its legal let them play where they want, its their life.

Again, you are talking about transfers to play sports. 90% of parents are more concerned about their kid's academics than their football (or whatever) team.
#14
mightydog Wrote:Wrong, at least not where im from. Russell is the best academic school around this area, but kids are always transferring in to Fairview. Ashland and Raceland. Russell has even lost kids to Raceland. I cant think of too many kids ever coming into Russell. Im not bashing it, if its legal let them play where they want, its their life.

I think it's very interesting to see where certain schools in eastern ky end up on the overall list. They have an emphasis on math and English, but they also take into consideration things such as teacher-student ratio, enrollment, test scores, ratio on free/reduced lunch, etc., and they have data back 20 years on all of it. It was designed to show parents the better school systems in a particular area and they eventually started a ranking process. Oddly enough, their list is right on with the standardized test rankings with some slight changes, but nothing drastic. On this particular list, Hazard is #3 overall and the best out of eastern ky, and Pulaski is also in the top 10. Casey, Jackson City, and Paintsville round out the top 20. Russell ended up at #36, and the next closest in their area was Fairview at #81. These rankings are from the 2013-2014 list.
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baseball1974 Wrote:I think it's very interesting to see where certain schools in eastern ky end up on the overall list. They have an emphasis on math and English, but they also take into consideration things such as teacher-student ratio, enrollment, test scores, ratio on free/reduced lunch, etc., and they have data back 20 years on all of it. It was designed to show parents the better school systems in a particular area and they eventually started a ranking process. Oddly enough, their list is right on with the standardized test rankings with some slight changes, but nothing drastic. On this particular list, Hazard is #3 overall and the best out of eastern ky, and Pulaski is also in the top 10. Casey, Jackson City, and Paintsville round out the top 20. Russell ended up at #36, and the next closest in their area was Fairview at #81. These rankings are from the 2013-2014 list.

Wrong answer. People can make lists look any way they want, but the buck stops with test scores. And there is only 1 school district east of I-75 in the top-10 districts as measured by test scores and it ain't on your "list"...

http://www.kentucky.com/2014/10/03/34604...tucky.html
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jetpilot Wrote:Wrong answer. People can make lists look any way they want, but the buck stops with test scores. And there is only 1 school district east of I-75 in the top-10 districts as measured by test scores and it ain't on your "list"...

http://www.kentucky.com/2014/10/03/34604...tucky.html

That list has gotten a lot better over the years. However, the list you posted shows overall school districts and the one I referenced was only high schools. It didn't take into consideration any other schools in the district. Also, both Pikeville and Corbin did score well but I was replying to him in regards to schools around Russelll. You can't compare these two lists because they're not even ranking the same things. "District," means all the schools in correlation with that system, and that has nothing to do with "my list," because like I said, they're ranking only high schools. I do like seeing your list though because its a good example of how one or two schools can bring an entire school district's ranking down.
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baseball1974 Wrote:That list has gotten a lot better over the years. However, the list you posted shows overall school districts and the one I referenced was only high schools. It didn't take into consideration any other schools in the district. Also, both Pikeville and Corbin did score well but I was replying to him in regards to schools around Russelll. You can't compare these two lists because they're not even ranking the same things. "District," means all the schools in correlation with that system, and that has nothing to do with "my list," because like I said, they're ranking only high schools. I do like seeing your list though because its a good example of how one or two schools can bring an entire school district's ranking down.

There are a zillion "lists" on the internet and none of them are worth a nickel imo. They are there to get people to click on them and make the guy who thought up the "list" money. If you are looking for a school check out their test scores and go visit the school. If you pick a school from some internet "list" that someone dreamed up parameters for you are going to end up at the wrong place 99% of the time. Not trying to argue with you 74 because I like your posts. Just disagree here.
#18
jetpilot Wrote:There are a zillion "lists" on the internet and none of them are worth a nickel imo. They are there to get people to click on them and make the guy who thought up the "list" money. If you are looking for a school check out their test scores and go visit the school. If you pick a school from some internet "list" that someone dreamed up parameters for you are going to end up at the wrong place 99% of the time. Not trying to argue with you 74 because I like your posts. Just disagree here.

No worries. Nothing to argue anyway. Two different lists with different variables on both. Parents chose for several different reasons and if that decision is based off an average score on standardized among every school in the district, then your list will best suite them. If they want to know where an individual school is ranked based off test scores, enrollment, free lunch ratios, student-teacher ratio, etc. then the one I was referring to will help them.
#19
AthleteChuckle Wrote:Perry Central has to face this problem year in year out. Kids spend their whole lives coming up through the county schools, but when they get to middle school & high school they switch over to Hazard to compete for 1A championships. It is what it is though.

Calling you out on this one. Look real close at the rosters from the 08, 10, and 2011 teams and pick some out. I'll do it for you because I was curious. 08 was Searcy and Kendrick. Searcy changed because of his dad being fired as coach at Perry, and Kendrick was ran off at Perry. 2010 had Eric Back (transfered for basketball and sat 1 year). 2011 had Brandon Miller and he was a freshman. 4 players. Tyler Fugate and Corey Martin are 2 players that went from Hazard to Perry at that time (that I can think of off the top of my head) that didn't sit and played immediately. Doesn't sound like there is that much of a Perry County Central pipeline running into Hazard.
#20
sportscritic Wrote:kids go through grade school together, but in high school students choose to go to other schools. I'm from Floyd County, and I will never understand why kids go to schools like Pikeville, Pike Central, and Johnson County , etc...when, they can travel a little farther and win a football state title at Belfry. What does playing in a district with Belfry get you, few more practices in basketball? Here is my question. When has a transfer worked out? I'm not talking about a district title, I'm talking about state title! I know Belfry but where else??

:ChairHit:
#21
Diogenes Wrote:Going to Belfry mostly gets you beat by Johnson Central, in the terms you mentioned.

Good job, Belfry, though. You did what you could, hooray mountains!
Well after some time you would think a bigger school may find a way to beat us. We only beat the day lights out of you all for around 27 years in a row? Is that right Diogenes?
#22
I can tell you one thing, if Whitley really wanted to be competitive they should end any type of reciprocal agreements and challenge the eligibility of kids going to city schools that live 30 minutes out in the county.

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