[Stardust]

Looking to see if anyone knowledgeable of the KHSAA website knows anything. It has always been my understanding that there is no rule that prohibits players from playing both for their summer team as well as their High School team at the same time. Is it purely a coaches decision and thus there is no rule, which is what I have always been led to believe?

[Panther Thunder]

Sounds correct. Summer/Fall baseball isn't governed by the KHSAA. A player can do whatever he wants if it isn't under KHSAA rule. There have been plenty of basketball players play summer basketball for schools they do not attend.

[JackRabbitSlim]

As far as I know they can certainly play both, and the only real rule during that time is when the "dead period" comes around, and all that requires is the coach can't be around them for those two weeks. I know lots of kids who play for travel teams on the weekends and play for their high schools during the week.

[Stardust]

Guy's, I am talking about players play for their summer team DURING the High School season.

Like I said, for baseball I'm not sure. But I did think there was a rule for Basketball that did not allow you to play AAU at the same time as the Basketball season.

[Commanche]

Guy's, I am talking about players play for their summer team DURING the High School season.

Like I said, for baseball I'm not sure. But I did think there was a rule for Basketball that did not allow you to play AAU at the same time as the Basketball season.

They are not allowed to participate with any team other than there High School team as long as there team is alive in the KHSAA playoffs. I know this for a fact. Summer players cannot play for their summer teams until they have played their high school's final game in the KHSAA playoffs.

You should be able to find this on the KHSAA website.

[mandan]

Used to be they could attend tryouts for Legion, etc. with written permission from head HS coach. Is that still a rule?

[Stardust]

They are not allowed to participate with any team other than there High School team as long as there team is alive in the KHSAA playoffs. I know this for a fact. Summer players cannot play for their summer teams until they have played their high school's final game in the KHSAA playoffs.

You should be able to find this on the KHSAA website.

I'm not doubting you, but I have other HS coaches telling me there is no such rule. If there is something on KHSAA, I have not seen it.

[Commanche]

I could not find it this morning either but I will have more time later. The issue came up when I had a son playing for a travel team a few years ago. I was told he could not participate even in practice until his high school team was eliminated from the playoffs. I may have called the KHSAA, but I am sure I read it at the time. I am not one for taking someones word on something as important as a childs high school eligibility. I will post later if I can find. It could also be in the NFHS rules which is incorporated by the KHSAA.

Where you at Charlie Hustle, I am sure you could help on this one?

[Stardust]

Thanks Commanche. I've attempted to reach KHSAA, but I'm not sure anyone really works there

Again, this would be specific to baseball, non-Varsity and Vasity (if there is a difference) and they would be competing at the same time for a summer team and their respective High School team.

[Commanche]

Thanks Commanche. I've attempted to reach KHSAA, but I'm not sure anyone really works there

Again, this would be specific to baseball, non-Varsity and Vasity (if there is a difference) and they would be competing at the same time for a summer team and their respective High School team.

I sent Charlie Hustle a PM on the issue. He could probably answer it accurately.

If the KHSAA does answer, make them reference it to the rules page. Today is a holiday, they may be out. I am sure this was the way it was in 2005 however not sure if that has changed.

[kai]

I believe By-Law No. 8 may be what you are looking for.

[Commanche]

I believe By-Law No. 8 may be what you are looking for.

You are correct it is in the Handbook By Law No. 8. Case BL-8-4 says this doesnt apply to any sport other than Basketball and Footfall. When my son played baseball it was this same rule that applied. Good work KAI!!

I would still verify that there is not anything else that would apply to baseball with the KHSAA.

[Stardust]

Since it is only specific to Basketball and Football, that's what makes me wonder. Like I said, I have had head coaches of other school tell that you CAN play for both, and it is a coaches decision, but I wanted proof.

This is the by-law, and if it was "Broad", it seems like they would not be specific to Basket and Football. It would have been very simple to state all KHSAA sanctioned sports instead of mentioning two sports and leaving one to assume it means for all.

Ughh!

[Commanche]

Since it is only specific to Basketball and Football, that's what makes me wonder. Like I said, I have had head coaches of other school tell that you CAN play for both, and it is a coaches decision, but I wanted proof.

This is the by-law, and if it was "Broad", it seems like they would not be specific to Basket and Football. It would have been very simple to state all KHSAA sanctioned sports instead of mentioning two sports and leaving one to assume it means for all.

Ughh!

Yeah it must have changed or their is another bylaw that might cover it. I would bet the High School coaches woulld frown on it anyway. If there is not a rule then there probably should be if only to protect pitchers who could get over used if playing for two teams simultaniously. Any HS coach would be ticked if a pitcher told him his travel team coach used him 2 days ago and he cant pitch for his High School team today.

It makes sense that the rule should apply to baseball as well, but I am like you why would they specify football and basketball if they did not mean just those two. Also the case in the bylaw 8 says it does not apply to other sports. Go figure. To me it would be more relevant to a pitcher than a shooting guard. LOL

[Stardust]

Commanche, we are even saying we have no problem with the young man playing for his summer team. The parents committed to the High School team, and we have said we have no problem with him playing on the weekends with his summer team. He plays for a Midland team, and the Midland coach is cautioning the parents that the school would have to forfeit if he played both and was caught. We have posed the question to our AD to take it to KHSAA, but the young man (8th grader) would be better off playing with his summer team that starts in March instead of playing Freshman ball, which is not at the same level competition wise (meaning Midland will play a much better schedule).

I want him to play both, so it's not an issue with the coaching staff of the school.

[Stardust]

I just got an email back from KHSAA, there is no rule for baseball, thus it is a coaches decision. So, it's a go.

[Commanche]

Coach I commend you! Most only look out for themselves not the children. I love it. I am familiar with the Midland program and that is an opportunity of a lifetime, especially if he moves through the ranks of there program.

If he is a middle schooler as you said the KHSAA does not have jurisdiction over him yet anyway as long as he only plays middle school ball. Bylaw 8 specifically states 9th through 12th grades.

Again I applaud your decision. Tell him good luck and PLAY hard.

[Stardust]

Thank you Commanche, you were extremely helpful in the quest. Reading the KHSAA by-laws is like trying to interpret the bible. Everyone has a different take on the same words. Much appreciated.

[Commanche]

Thank you Commanche, you were extremely helpful in the quest. Reading the KHSAA by-laws is like trying to interpret the bible. Everyone has a different take on the same words. Much appreciated.

Agreed, research in there bylaws is pretty tough. Good luck this season and you are welcome.