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Ashland Blazer 84 Lawrence County 69
#1
Final from Ashland. 

Zander Carter had 34 for the Tomcats, Gunnar Woods with 28 for the Bulldogs
#2
Good game. Ashland led by 3 at half and pulled away late. Carter just to much for LC.
#3
Game much more competitive than final score indicated. Was a fun game to watch, Lawrence like always competed.

Carter is the best player in state and should be Mr Basketball. But a UK signee doesn’t not win it so it will
Be Moreno.
#4
Got to rewatch this and both teams played well. Lawrence stood toe to toe with APB starters. Difference was APB got 20+ points from the bench. APB will still have to come firing all cylinders from starts and bench to beat Boyd.
#5
(02-15-2025, 01:56 AM)Hooperregion Wrote: Got to rewatch this and both teams played well. Lawrence stood toe to toe with APB starters. Difference was APB got 20+ points from the bench. APB will still have to come firing all cylinders from starts and bench to beat Boyd.
Lawrence stood toe to toe with everyone except Neel, Hughes and Carter.  Zander is too much for anyone in this region/state.  I watched Ashland dominate Boyd the first game they played this season.  Boyd played the best game that they could play and caught Ashland on a bad night in the second contest.  Hughes is starting to get comfortable and playing well.  Neel is eligible now after Russell’s new cash cow stopped picking on a kid. It is a different Tomcat team now and Boyd still has the same coaches.  Minus one that they ran off.  JMO
#6
Lawrence County sort of crept up on me. Their schedule is a little weak but with almost 20 wins you have to take them seriously. Ashland did and the Bulldogs still competed. I'm not sure if Lawrence even has a senior on the team? Could be the start of a good run for them. Congrats to the Bulldogs for a quality loss and one of those moral victories. On the other side it seems Ashland's defense was a little off. Not much help defense, pretty much I have my man and you have yours. Give the Bulldogs credit, they made a lot of tough short to mid range shots with a defender in their face. If Lawrence produced a poor shooting performance it could've gotten out of hand early, but they didn't and the score didn't. It was a good high school game. The Tomcats will have to step it up for George Washington today or they could get smacked right after beating them just over a week ago.
#7
(02-15-2025, 12:26 PM)See i82much Wrote: Lawrence County sort of crept up on me. Their schedule is a little weak but with almost 20 wins you have to take them seriously. Ashland did and the Bulldogs still competed. I'm not sure if Lawrence even has a senior on the team? Could be the start of a good run for them. Congrats to the Bulldogs for a quality loss and one of those moral victories. On the other side it seems Ashland's defense was a little off. Not much help defense, pretty much I have my man and you have yours. Give the Bulldogs credit, they made a lot of tough short to mid range shots with a defender in their face. If Lawrence produced a poor shooting performance it could've gotten out of hand early, but they didn't and the score didn't. It was a good high school game. The Tomcats will have to step it up for George Washington today or they could get smacked right after beating them just over a week ago.
Lawrence does not have a senior who plays minutes.    They are playing three juniors and three sophomores currently and playing well.  

They have an ability to spread floor out and all five players can handle and shoot enough to respect them on floor.    Plus they play really hard and have been getting better defensively.  

Size is biggest issue and hurts them in certain matchups.    But they can play with anyone who spreads floor and don’t have a true big.
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(02-15-2025, 03:20 AM)Appalachian Cat Wrote:
(02-15-2025, 01:56 AM)Hooperregion Wrote: Got to rewatch this and both teams played well. Lawrence stood toe to toe with APB starters. Difference was APB got 20+ points from the bench. APB will still have to come firing all cylinders from starts and bench to beat Boyd.
Lawrence stood toe to toe with everyone except Neel, Hughes and Carter.  Zander is too much for anyone in this region/state.  I watched Ashland dominate Boyd the first game they played this season.  Boyd played the best game that they could play and caught Ashland on a bad night in the second contest.  Hughes is starting to get comfortable and playing well.  Neel is eligible now after Russell’s new cash cow stopped picking on a kid. It is a different Tomcat team now and Boyd still has the same coaches.  Minus one that they ran off.  JMO

Jmo. Lawrence went away from what was working defensively the first half. If they would have stuck with that. May have had a chance late in the game. Now the daddy fun starts at Ashland and will be in full force. Neel is going to take minutes. Already is. Hoskins Smith Davis and Clarke have all felt it. It will ruin their chances.

As far as BC vs APB. First game. Carter played the best basketball of his entire career that night. Lalonde maybe his. They haven’t had a game like that since.

Second meeting Boyd wasn’t full strength and still won at Ashland. It really makes me think what other excuses you would make appy for these guys. BC is the better team in my opinion. I guess opinions vary. That’s why we just play the game. Haha
#9
(02-15-2025, 12:13 AM)15thregionwatcher Wrote: Game much more competitive  than final score indicated.  Was a fun game to watch,  Lawrence like always competed. 

Carter is the best player in state and should be Mr Basketball.  But a UK signee doesn’t not win it so it will
Be Moreno.
Yes, very good player. but not the best.  I'm not just talking about Moreno.
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if its moreno, then mr basketball is rigged, Carter is a hell of a player who could possibly make more of a impact at Uk then he can.
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(02-16-2025, 06:43 PM)GooseOPikeville Wrote: if its moreno, then mr basketball is rigged, Carter is a hell of a player who could possibly make more of a impact at Uk then he can.
I just have one question, can I have some of whatever you're smoking?
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(02-17-2025, 02:34 PM)4 Quarters Wrote:
(02-16-2025, 06:43 PM)GooseOPikeville Wrote: if its moreno, then mr basketball is rigged, Carter is a hell of a player who could possibly make more of a impact at Uk then he can.
I just have one question, can I have some of whatever you're smoking?

I don't really care, just like Zander, about individual awards or stat sheets. So I don't give a single bean soup fart about who gets "Mr. Basketball" but for the sake of discussion I did a quick search and a bunch of outlets have the two of them running first and second for the award. Good grief, in the name of all things common sense it wouldn't be a stretch to believe Zander could get the award. Again, I don't care. 

Concerning the UK part of the comment, I'm not sure either of them will (or would) have an immediate impact playing for UK in the SEC. I definitely don't think it would be a stretch to believe that if the two played on the same team that Zander could have the greater immediate impact. His size and body relative to his position along with his basketball IQ and leadership skills would indicate it's possible.  I'm not saying it would be true, I'm just saying you wouldn't have to be under the influence of narcotics to believe it. Again, good grief, it's possible.
#13
(02-17-2025, 07:14 PM)i82much Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 02:34 PM)4 Quarters Wrote:
(02-16-2025, 06:43 PM)GooseOPikeville Wrote: if its moreno, then mr basketball is rigged, Carter is a hell of a player who could possibly make more of a impact at Uk then he can.
I just have one question, can I have some of whatever you're smoking?

I don't really care, just like Zander, about individual awards or stat sheets. So I don't give a single bean soup fart about who gets "Mr. Basketball" but for the sake of discussion I did a quick search and a bunch of outlets have the two of them running first and second for the award. Good grief, in the name of all things common sense it wouldn't be a stretch to believe Zander could get the award. Again, I don't care. 

Concerning the UK part of the comment, I'm not sure either of them will (or would) have an immediate impact playing for UK in the SEC. I definitely don't think it would be a stretch to believe that if the two played on the same team that Zander could have the greater immediate impact. His size and body relative to his position along with his basketball IQ and leadership skills would indicate it's possible.  I'm not saying it would be true, I'm just saying you wouldn't have to be under the influence of narcotics to believe it. Again, good grief, it's possible.
Let me think for a minute about the differences between UK and Liberty.
#14
(02-17-2025, 08:02 PM)4 Quarters Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 07:14 PM)i82much Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 02:34 PM)4 Quarters Wrote:
(02-16-2025, 06:43 PM)GooseOPikeville Wrote: if its moreno, then mr basketball is rigged, Carter is a hell of a player who could possibly make more of a impact at Uk then he can.
I just have one question, can I have some of whatever you're smoking?

I don't really care, just like Zander, about individual awards or stat sheets. So I don't give a single bean soup fart about who gets "Mr. Basketball" but for the sake of discussion I did a quick search and a bunch of outlets have the two of them running first and second for the award. Good grief, in the name of all things common sense it wouldn't be a stretch to believe Zander could get the award. Again, I don't care. 

Concerning the UK part of the comment, I'm not sure either of them will (or would) have an immediate impact playing for UK in the SEC. I definitely don't think it would be a stretch to believe that if the two played on the same team that Zander could have the greater immediate impact. His size and body relative to his position along with his basketball IQ and leadership skills would indicate it's possible.  I'm not saying it would be true, I'm just saying you wouldn't have to be under the influence of narcotics to believe it. Again, good grief, it's possible.
Let me think for a minute about the differences between UK and Liberty.

What in the world?  I think you missed something or you're lacking something.
#15
(02-17-2025, 08:42 PM)i82much Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 08:02 PM)4 Quarters Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 07:14 PM)i82much Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 02:34 PM)4 Quarters Wrote:
(02-16-2025, 06:43 PM)GooseOPikeville Wrote: if its moreno, then mr basketball is rigged, Carter is a hell of a player who could possibly make more of a impact at Uk then he can.
I just have one question, can I have some of whatever you're smoking?

I don't really care, just like Zander, about individual awards or stat sheets. So I don't give a single bean soup fart about who gets "Mr. Basketball" but for the sake of discussion I did a quick search and a bunch of outlets have the two of them running first and second for the award. Good grief, in the name of all things common sense it wouldn't be a stretch to believe Zander could get the award. Again, I don't care. 

Concerning the UK part of the comment, I'm not sure either of them will (or would) have an immediate impact playing for UK in the SEC. I definitely don't think it would be a stretch to believe that if the two played on the same team that Zander could have the greater immediate impact. His size and body relative to his position along with his basketball IQ and leadership skills would indicate it's possible.  I'm not saying it would be true, I'm just saying you wouldn't have to be under the influence of narcotics to believe it. Again, good grief, it's possible.
Let me think for a minute about the differences between UK and Liberty.

What in the world?  I think you missed something or you're lacking something.
Don't talk out of both sides of your mouth while filled with bean soup.
#16
(02-17-2025, 09:45 PM)4 Quarters Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 08:42 PM)i82much Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 08:02 PM)4 Quarters Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 07:14 PM)i82much Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 02:34 PM)4 Quarters Wrote: I just have one question, can I have some of whatever you're smoking?

I don't really care, just like Zander, about individual awards or stat sheets. So I don't give a single bean soup fart about who gets "Mr. Basketball" but for the sake of discussion I did a quick search and a bunch of outlets have the two of them running first and second for the award. Good grief, in the name of all things common sense it wouldn't be a stretch to believe Zander could get the award. Again, I don't care. 

Concerning the UK part of the comment, I'm not sure either of them will (or would) have an immediate impact playing for UK in the SEC. I definitely don't think it would be a stretch to believe that if the two played on the same team that Zander could have the greater immediate impact. His size and body relative to his position along with his basketball IQ and leadership skills would indicate it's possible.  I'm not saying it would be true, I'm just saying you wouldn't have to be under the influence of narcotics to believe it. Again, good grief, it's possible.
Let me think for a minute about the differences between UK and Liberty.

What in the world?  I think you missed something or you're lacking something.
Don't talk out of both sides of your mouth while filled with bean soup.

I'm still confused but that's normal. My point wasn't to say either one of those young men is better or more deserving than the other. It was to say anyone could formulate differing opinions based on what they see and how they interpret it, and choosing either could be justified. I can tell you right now if you talk to Zander you're more likely to get invited to the weekend foot washing service at church rather than talking about an individual award. He chose Liberty because that's where he felt led to go. There is nothing wrong with that. Arguably the best player in college basketball is Johni Broome, his best scholarship out of high school was Morehead State.
#17
(02-17-2025, 10:10 PM)i82much Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 09:45 PM)4 Quarters Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 08:42 PM)i82much Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 08:02 PM)4 Quarters Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 07:14 PM)i82much Wrote: I don't really care, just like Zander, about individual awards or stat sheets. So I don't give a single bean soup fart about who gets "Mr. Basketball" but for the sake of discussion I did a quick search and a bunch of outlets have the two of them running first and second for the award. Good grief, in the name of all things common sense it wouldn't be a stretch to believe Zander could get the award. Again, I don't care. 

Concerning the UK part of the comment, I'm not sure either of them will (or would) have an immediate impact playing for UK in the SEC. I definitely don't think it would be a stretch to believe that if the two played on the same team that Zander could have the greater immediate impact. His size and body relative to his position along with his basketball IQ and leadership skills would indicate it's possible.  I'm not saying it would be true, I'm just saying you wouldn't have to be under the influence of narcotics to believe it. Again, good grief, it's possible.
Let me think for a minute about the differences between UK and Liberty.

What in the world?  I think you missed something or you're lacking something.
Don't talk out of both sides of your mouth while filled with bean soup.

I'm still confused but that's normal. My point wasn't to say either one of those young men is better or more deserving than the other. It was to say anyone could formulate differing opinions based on what they see and how they interpret it, and choosing either could be justified. I can tell you right now if you talk to Zander you're more likely to get invited to the weekend foot washing service at church rather than talking about an individual award. He chose Liberty because that's where he felt led to go. There is nothing wrong with that. Arguably the best player in college basketball is Johni Broome, his best scholarship out of high school was Morehead State.
I completely agree with what you are saying. I do believe that Zander Carter will be a more impactful player in college than Malachi will be but that’s just my opinion. I’ve been lucky enough to watch both of these dudes play in person and they are both special talents for Kentucky High School Basketball. If I was to start a team with one of the two tho then I’d pick Zander Carter. He does everything on the court at a high level and is a 6’6 Guard who plays at his own pace and is never sped up and always gets to his spots. Reminds me of SGA a little. Malachi is a great big man. One of the better big man i’ve saw in the state in a while especially with his rim protection. I think they can both have good impacts on their respective programs but Zander will do better in college. Zander is talented enough to play at Kentucky and get meaningful minutes as a freshman and I don’t know
If Malachi can do well as a freshman. Both VERY good players though.
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(02-17-2025, 10:10 PM)i82much Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 09:45 PM)4 Quarters Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 08:42 PM)i82much Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 08:02 PM)4 Quarters Wrote:
(02-17-2025, 07:14 PM)i82much Wrote: I don't really care, just like Zander, about individual awards or stat sheets. So I don't give a single bean soup fart about who gets "Mr. Basketball" but for the sake of discussion I did a quick search and a bunch of outlets have the two of them running first and second for the award. Good grief, in the name of all things common sense it wouldn't be a stretch to believe Zander could get the award. Again, I don't care. 

Concerning the UK part of the comment, I'm not sure either of them will (or would) have an immediate impact playing for UK in the SEC. I definitely don't think it would be a stretch to believe that if the two played on the same team that Zander could have the greater immediate impact. His size and body relative to his position along with his basketball IQ and leadership skills would indicate it's possible.  I'm not saying it would be true, I'm just saying you wouldn't have to be under the influence of narcotics to believe it. Again, good grief, it's possible.
Let me think for a minute about the differences between UK and Liberty.

What in the world?  I think you missed something or you're lacking something.
Don't talk out of both sides of your mouth while filled with bean soup.

I'm still confused but that's normal. My point wasn't to say either one of those young men is better or more deserving than the other. It was to say anyone could formulate differing opinions based on what they see and how they interpret it, and choosing either could be justified. I can tell you right now if you talk to Zander you're more likely to get invited to the weekend foot washing service at church rather than talking about an individual award. He chose Liberty because that's where he felt led to go. There is nothing wrong with that. Arguably the best player in college basketball is Johni Broome, his best scholarship out of high school was Morehead State.
I get your point.
Not trying to open another can of worms, but I'll take Cooper Flagg.
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#19
Wonder what HOOPFAN would think?
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(02-18-2025, 03:07 PM)Ky1976 Wrote: Wonder what HOOPFAN would think?

IMO. The award goes to Moreno. He is the clear cut choice based off basketball upside. I’ve seen a few of the 2025 kids play that will be up for this award. Out of the 16 eligible kids. Moreno is #1. After that you could have a few discussions about who would be in the running afterwards. I think it would be close for the 2nd 3rd 4th guy. If that even matters.

As far as Zander, he will have played more games in high school than any kid that I am aware of in the state of KY. That is impressive when talking about durability. He has a nice frame and will be fine Liberty. I think he could ultimately play more 3 than the 2. He doesn’t shoot it at a high enough level consistently yet! He will put in the work. If looking at just the comparison of Z and Mo. Mo is a bigger impact player than Z. Score, rebound, block shots, and passer all goes to Mo. Z shoots it better and handles it better. But hey. They play two different roles and positions. The size and skill set alone make Mo power 5 vs Z. I’m not saying Z can’t play at UK. Given the opportunity, he may do what Noah is doing or close.

Z is a good player and I hope he kills it at the next level. I like to see any area player make it.
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(02-18-2025, 07:12 PM)HOOPFAN Wrote:
(02-18-2025, 03:07 PM)Ky1976 Wrote: Wonder what HOOPFAN would think?

IMO. The award goes to Moreno. He is the clear cut choice based off basketball upside. I’ve seen a few of the 2025 kids play that will be up for this award. Out of the 16 eligible kids. Moreno is #1.  After that you could have a few discussions about who would be in the running afterwards.  I think it would be close for the 2nd 3rd 4th guy.  If that even matters.

As far as Zander, he will have played more games in high school than any kid that I am aware of in the state of KY. That is impressive when talking about durability. He has a nice frame and will be fine Liberty. I think he could ultimately play more 3 than the 2. He doesn’t shoot it at a high enough level consistently yet! He will put in the work.  If looking at just the comparison of Z and Mo. Mo is a bigger impact player than Z. Score, rebound, block shots, and passer all goes to Mo. Z shoots it better and handles it better. But hey. They play two different roles and positions.  The size and skill set alone make Mo power 5 vs Z. I’m not saying Z can’t play at UK. Given the opportunity, he may do what Noah is doing or close.

Z is a good player and I hope he kills it at the next level. I like to see any area player make it.
Everyone’s opinions vary and I respect yours. I respect you pushing for these local kids even if they do go to a rival school of yours. I want to see all area kids succeed and perform well in college. @HOOPFAN I think Jacob shoots it at a high enough clip to be able to play meaningful minutes as soon as he steps on campus at the Division 1 School he chooses.
#22
IMO
The differences between high school and college basketball are significant. College players are generally bigger, stronger, and faster, with a greater emphasis on defense. Nearly all 13 to 15 players on a college roster have the ability to score. For freshmen entering Division I programs, finding meaningful minutes on the court can be challenging. While it's not impossible, scoring alone isn't typically the primary factor that determines playing time.
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(02-18-2025, 07:46 PM)billymoore8123 Wrote:
(02-18-2025, 07:12 PM)HOOPFAN Wrote:
(02-18-2025, 03:07 PM)Ky1976 Wrote: Wonder what HOOPFAN would think?

IMO. The award goes to Moreno. He is the clear cut choice based off basketball upside. I’ve seen a few of the 2025 kids play that will be up for this award. Out of the 16 eligible kids. Moreno is #1.  After that you could have a few discussions about who would be in the running afterwards.  I think it would be close for the 2nd 3rd 4th guy.  If that even matters.

As far as Zander, he will have played more games in high school than any kid that I am aware of in the state of KY. That is impressive when talking about durability. He has a nice frame and will be fine Liberty. I think he could ultimately play more 3 than the 2. He doesn’t shoot it at a high enough level consistently yet! He will put in the work.  If looking at just the comparison of Z and Mo. Mo is a bigger impact player than Z. Score, rebound, block shots, and passer all goes to Mo. Z shoots it better and handles it better. But hey. They play two different roles and positions.  The size and skill set alone make Mo power 5 vs Z. I’m not saying Z can’t play at UK. Given the opportunity, he may do what Noah is doing or close.

Z is a good player and I hope he kills it at the next level. I like to see any area player make it.
Everyone’s opinions vary and I respect yours. I respect you pushing for these local kids even if they do go to a rival school of yours. I want to see all area kids succeed and perform well in college. @HOOPFAN I think Jacob shoots it at a high enough clip to be able to play meaningful minutes as soon as he steps on campus at the Division 1 School he chooses.

I agree, most adults do want to see area kids do well unless your KY, he just is filled full of haterade! I am sure it comes from his inadequate playing time (if he even played) in school. As far as Spur, he can shoot the rock! He can put that thang in the thang and from anywhere in the gym. He will continue to grow as a player I am sure due to the work that young man puts in. Congratulations to that young man for breaking BC school record for all-time leading scorer. What I have heard out of the COUNTY he did it in less games, less shots, and less starts, then Frank. That is not normally the case when breaking the previous record.

KY-We know Z is approaching 3K in points, how many seasons has he played? total games? I was told but I would like someone that actually knows to say what those totals are that is close to the program. I heard it was actually a state of KY record of most games played?
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HOOPFAN
I really don't know how many points Z has played nor do i care. I do believe he is the best college prospect in the 16th this year. Just because Z will score 3000 pts and just because J Spurlock will or has the all-time leading scorer at these 2 tradition rich schools (APD #1 by the way) don't mean either one of them will be the best to do at either of these schools,
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(02-20-2025, 02:26 PM)Ky1976 Wrote: HOOPFAN
I really don't know how many points Z has played nor do i care.  I do believe he is the best college prospect in the 16th this year.  Just because Z will score 3000 pts and just because J Spurlock will or has the all-time leading scorer at these 2 tradition rich schools (APD #1 by the way) don't mean either one of them will be the best to do at either of these schools,

I just asked. No harm intended. You off the meds today? Your hypersensitivity is in full effect today.
#26
Roid Rage and if anyone knows would be YOU.
#27
(02-20-2025, 05:59 PM)Ky1976 Wrote: Roid Rage and if anyone knows would be YOU.

I’m worried about you genuinely! Seriously seek some help with your addiction to roids.
#28
This is like must see tv!

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