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02-11-2006, 02:42 PM
I prefer the 4-4
02-11-2006, 03:08 PM
T-cat, I as well like a 4-4 that we call 31 base. To the t.e. side or strength we play a 3 tech. and align our d-tackle on the outside eye of the guard to absorb a guard,tackle double team. Away from the strength call we play a 1 tech., align on outside eye of center to force a center, guard double team.We play our de's tight!
D.e.'s place their inside foot just inside the inside foot of the t.e and the outside foot is just outside his as well. His job is to sqeeze the t.e. down and take off tackle dive, never give the t.e. a release on our backers. By running a 31 base(4-4) we can absorb their entire o-line with our front 4 guys. Teach the front 4 to attack half-man and create doubles by being gap players ( 3 and 1 tech.'s). teach D-tackles to create double team, try to split it, if they feel theirselves getting drove out, drop now!
solid D when you dont have kids strong enough to line up in 2 and 4 tech.'s and man handle people. We play a cov.3 with our 31 base.
D.e.'s place their inside foot just inside the inside foot of the t.e and the outside foot is just outside his as well. His job is to sqeeze the t.e. down and take off tackle dive, never give the t.e. a release on our backers. By running a 31 base(4-4) we can absorb their entire o-line with our front 4 guys. Teach the front 4 to attack half-man and create doubles by being gap players ( 3 and 1 tech.'s). teach D-tackles to create double team, try to split it, if they feel theirselves getting drove out, drop now!
solid D when you dont have kids strong enough to line up in 2 and 4 tech.'s and man handle people. We play a cov.3 with our 31 base.
02-11-2006, 07:06 PM
The best high school defense is a defense that suits the personnel that you have.
You can not push a defense (or an offense for that matter) that doesn't suit the players on the field.
You can not push a defense (or an offense for that matter) that doesn't suit the players on the field.
02-11-2006, 07:27 PM
Im a big fan of the 4-3....
02-11-2006, 08:00 PM
If I had perfect personnel--I would run the 35 (pressure).
I like the pressure packages off of it with the vast array of coverage options. The important part is the personel. With the right amount of speed--and 3 d-linemen who are 2 gap players--you can really shake things up. Not to mention that you easily step into a 53 front against the right offense.
I like the pressure packages off of it with the vast array of coverage options. The important part is the personel. With the right amount of speed--and 3 d-linemen who are 2 gap players--you can really shake things up. Not to mention that you easily step into a 53 front against the right offense.
02-11-2006, 08:07 PM
I agree kentuckyhillbilly....
02-12-2006, 11:40 AM
5-2
02-12-2006, 02:02 PM
4-4! Gotta have VERY GOOD D-LINEMEN!
02-12-2006, 09:32 PM
in the 4-4 defense u have to have very good line backers and thats not gonna happen at most school so i prefer the 4-3 defense
02-12-2006, 10:03 PM
4-3
02-13-2006, 01:09 PM
4-3
02-13-2006, 01:36 PM
KentuckyHillBilly5321 Wrote:The best high school defense is a defense that suits the personnel that you have.
You can not push a defense (or an offense for that matter) that doesn't suit the players on the field.
Also depends on who you play, but, generally, I'd say a 4-4 and 4-3 on passing downs, but with teams throwing more, 4-3 might be good the whole time.
02-13-2006, 01:44 PM
BFritz Wrote:Also depends on who you play, but, generally, I'd say a 4-4 and 4-3 on passing downs, but with teams throwing more, 4-3 might be good the whole time.
No offense--but thank goodness that I have been around coaches who don't believe in that theory. Not that it is bad--but I think that the teams that I have been around have done better playing the best defense that suits their personnel as opposed to immediately trying to play into your opponents hands.
Make an offense try to adjust to the defense, not the other way around.
02-13-2006, 02:13 PM
KentuckyHillBilly5321 Wrote:No offense--but thank goodness that I have been around coaches who don't believe in that theory. Not that it is bad--but I think that the teams that I have been around have done better playing the best defense that suits their personnel as opposed to immediately trying to play into your opponents hands.
Make an offense try to adjust to the defense, not the other way around.
I agree to some extent, but if the offense lines up with four wides, it's stupid to stay in a 5-3 or 4-4 because fast receivers will smoke your backers. Or, if you line up in a wishbone, it's dumb to stay in a 4-3, and sometimes it's even dumb to stay in a 4-4. Your last comment is right, but you can't do that with smart coaches. Yeagle was great at doing that to the offense and defense.
02-13-2006, 03:26 PM
BFritz Wrote:I agree to some extent, but if the offense lines up with four wides, it's stupid to stay in a 5-3 or 4-4 because fast receivers will smoke your backers. Or, if you line up in a wishbone, it's dumb to stay in a 4-3, and sometimes it's even dumb to stay in a 4-4. Your last comment is right, but you can't do that with smart coaches. Yeagle was great at doing that to the offense and defense.
Actually--Yeagle lived and died with the theory that I spoke of. Which speaks to your point. We didn't actually start changing fronts until Coach Rash took over the defense in 2002. And we never really got away from our Base.
For us--we operate in 53 for normal situations and then 43/2 deep and 35/36 during passing situations. Again-if we have the right people in the right spots--it doesn't make a difference. If we are not as good as we have been in the past--I would see us making some changes.
I don't disagree with your points--there are more than a few ways to skin a cat. And in actuality--I honestly think that we are on the same page.
By the way--it is good to have you over here. (Even if we mix it up--but that is the cool part--you bring the wood/facts even if guys like me don't agree).
02-13-2006, 04:33 PM
KentuckyHillBilly5321 Wrote:Actually--Yeagle lived and died with the theory that I spoke of. Which speaks to your point. We didn't actually start changing fronts until Coach Rash took over the defense in 2002. And we never really got away from our Base.
For us--we operate in 53 for normal situations and then 43/2 deep and 35/36 during passing situations. Again-if we have the right people in the right spots--it doesn't make a difference. If we are not as good as we have been in the past--I would see us making some changes.
I don't disagree with your points--there are more than a few ways to skin a cat. And in actuality--I honestly think that we are on the same page.
By the way--it is good to have you over here. (Even if we mix it up--but that is the cool part--you bring the wood/facts even if guys like me don't agree).
I agree with you, and thanks for the compliment, glad to be here:Cheerlead
02-15-2006, 08:25 PM
I remeber us playing rockcastle 2 years ago and they ran a 6-1 and we thought we could pass on them and we could hardly get the ball thrown.
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