[SEKYFAN]

Here is what i was told today by an official that I know and was at the game. The ref that called the facemask penalty is from the Somerset area and he called 7 penalties against Corbin and 0 against Central. He was also the official who didn't throw the flag on the very blatant block in the back on the punt return. The guy also told me the that was a "super crew" put together for the playoffs. He then said he texted their supervisor after the game about how the game was officiated and the supervisor told him he was at the game watching.

I am a big Corbin fan, but not the type who is blinded. In the end, Corbin was given many opportunities to win the game, but couldn't get the job done. I am not willing to give a pass to such poor officiating as Corbin AND Central deserved better. But at the end of the day, if Corbin wants to know why they lost, they only need to look in the mirror.

As far as replaying the Corbin-Bell game, its over. It was a great game between 2 great teams and it was a shame someone had to lose.

Three or four different times, our defense makes a stop on that one play, Corbin wins. For whatever reason, it just didn't happen.

Mixing crews up is a mistake it my opinion, there seems to be a lot of confusion amongst the officials when they do that. Most of the officials who did this game were obviously out of shape and had a hard time keeping up at times.

[SEKYFAN]

I saw the vehichle the refs got out of when they entered the game. And that vehichle did have Jefferson co tags. But I also seen who was driving the vehichle and who escorted the refs in. and this man is an official from this region and a Corbin alumni.

They were transported to and from the game from Corbin's field house. I hope they left before Coach Roark got there.:redboxer:

[baseball1974]

Three or four different times, our defense makes a stop on that one play, Corbin wins. For whatever reason, it just didn't happen.

Mixing crews up is a mistake it my opinion, there seems to be a lot of confusion amongst the officials when they do that. Most of the officials who did this game were obviously out of shape and had a hard time keeping up at times.

Officiating across the board in the state of Kentucky is really down. Most states have adapted with the times and have put in more requirements, training, education and monitoring to make sure they have officials that are prepared for any situation regardless of what crew you are in. Kentucky, Indiana, and West Virginia I know haven't and are basically letting anyone that can pass a written test and buy a uniform officiate. You use to see former athletes out there and were knowledgable about "in-game" situations and when to make a call and when not to make a call. Over the past ten to fifteen years it has gotten progressively worse. In today's world, a coach has to go through multiple trainings, physicals, background checks, coaching education courses, etc. It should only be logical that our officials are held to a higher standard as well. I can't tell you how many "deer in the headlights" looks I've seen this year from officials not knowing what to do. Unfortunately, it's happening in every sport too. One of two things has to happen; they have to get stricter on requirements and training for officials, or they're going to have to get a lot less strict on coaches being thrown out of games.

[SEKYFAN]

Here is what i was told today by an official that I know and was at the game. The ref that called the facemask penalty is from the Somerset area and he called 7 penalties against Corbin and 0 against Central. He was also the official who didn't throw the flag on the very blatant block in the back on the punt return. The guy also told me the that was a "super crew" put together for the playoffs. He then said he texted their supervisor after the game about how the game was officiated and the supervisor told him he was at the game watching..

Wouldn't it be highly unlikely that one official not only calls 7 penalties on Corbin and 0 on Central, but is also the one who throws the flag on 7 of Corbin's 8 or 9 total penalties?

What were all the other officials doing?

[Willie Turnover]

I used to complain about officials all the time when I coached. Then I joined the "dark side". And until you walk in an officials shoes then you have no idea.

Sometimes an official can be close to the play to see a foul and it does look bad.

I wasn't at the game and did not see the play but if the official was close to the play and looking to make sure the ball got caught cleanly, then he may very well have not seen a block in the back even if it was 5 yards away. Whereas someone 30 yards away or in the stands, watching to see if the catch is made cleanly is able to see both the catch and the block in the back.

[Willie Turnover]

One other thing, are those films in real time? If my timing is correct on my phone it took 13 seconds for a play that took 11.43 seconds from snap to tackle.

[jamesdeane]

I used to complain about officials all the time when I coached. Then I joined the "dark side". And until you walk in an officials shoes then you have no idea.

Sometimes an official can be close to the play to see a foul and it does look bad.

I wasn't at the game and did not see the play but if the official was close to the play and looking to make sure the ball got caught cleanly, then he may very well have not seen a block in the back even if it was 5 yards away. Whereas someone 30 yards away or in the stands, watching to see if the catch is made cleanly is able to see both the catch and the block in the back.

The block in the back was on a punt that that wasn't fielded but was rolling on the ground. The Corbin player was watching it roll and waiting to down it when the Central played came up from behind and hit him.

[Hatz]

If anyone has seen the video from the sideline that is on youtube right now, known as "the catch heard round corbin", I videoed that video. There was no facemask as seen in the video. He jumped on his back and had his arm around his neck. No horsecollar either. #25 was a runningback, therefore Corbin's defender had to do whatever he could to bring him down. Great game ruined by a terrible call.

I didn't see it on the initial tackle but it could have been when he "Finished him off." The sideline video you describe has a player that runs into the picture and the edit stops before the runner is "finished off."

The first one I saw (the now infamous disappeared angle) looked like he grabbed the facemask when he was finally bringing the kid down.

[RunItUpTheGut]

We could always go barnyard style. No officials at all. Anything goes football.

[Xerxes]

I was under the impression that you could not tackle or grab any part of helmet. It is clear that his left had grabbed the back of helmet and pulled his head down. Officials I spoke with says this is a penalty. IDK just an opinion .

[baseball1974]

There is no reason to argue the single play anymore. I think everyone should agree what happened is a penalty according the rule book and should be called. The only controversy this stirred up for me was after I watched the entire game. Several tackles were made by both teams where the helmet was touched in one or another with no flag thrown. The kid that caught the ball would have been tackled or knocked out of bounds regardless if the helmet was touched or not. Because of the last two facts that I mentioned, his flag should've never been thrown and Corbin should have won the game. Idk anything about where the officials are from or what car they left in or anything like that, but one official screwed up. You can't pick and chose when you're going to make calls. You either call it consistently all game, or you don't call it at all. He let the situation dictate his decision and that is bad officiating regardless of how you spin it. You don't need to walk in an officials shoes to know whether or not he blew a call. Football is one of the rare sports where officiiating can absolutely affect the outcome of a game and after watching this game from kickoff to the end, I believe officiating had a tremendous amount to do with the outcome of this game. Sure, you can say Corbin had their chances and all that crap, but some of the calls put them as well as central in bad positions the entire game. Corbin unfortunately had one stolen away from them.

[64SUR]

Wouldn't it be highly unlikely that one official not only calls 7 penalties on Corbin and 0 on Central, but is also the one who throws the flag on 7 of Corbin's 8 or 9 total penalties?

What were all the other officials doing?

Something smell if this is true. :ref2:

[FlippedOut]

Pass defense may had a little something to do with it.

[Dietpepsidrinker]

I wasn't at the game and have no dog in the fight. I was hoping for a Corbin win, but knew it was going to be an uphill battle. I would like to watch the WHOLE video of the game, but I don't see that happening. So I will comment on the video that I did see. I actually saw two fouls on the last play with time on the clock. On the first catch I thought that there could have have been an interference call on that play, but as it turned out, that was a moot point. But the bottom line is this for me.....Corbin still had a chance to stop the final play by stopping the TD pass. They make that one play and all the rest is only static, and the Hounds move on, they did not make the play and Central moves on.
The sad thing is that Corbin had a great season and that will be the static here as all that will be talked about is the call. That is sad for all the kids who worked so hard to play well and represent their school and community in a positive way, which they did. They deserve a better legacy than being the team that lost because of a bad call, they need to be remembered for their great season and great efforts all season long.

[64SUR]

Pass defense may had a little something to do with it.

I have never like pass defense only in pros...:HitWall:

[SEKYFAN]

Some stats from the game.

Rushing yards
Corbin - 335(Coppock had 221 and Nantz 80)
Central - 85

Passing
Corbin - 4-5 for 29 yards
Central - 19-30 for 220 yards

Penalty yards
Corbin - 115
Central - 35

[Coachdad]

Some stats from the game.

Rushing yards
Corbin - 335(Coppock had 221 and Nantz 80)
Central - 85

Passing
Corbin - 4-5 for 29 yards
Central - 19-30 for 220 yards

Penalty yards
Corbin - 115
Central - 35

Looks like Central was more disciplined than Corbin

[Leonidas]

I agree with coachdad...that's what I'd take from that, too.

I'm an unbiased poster and could care less which team won, but the play in question was definitely a penalty. Any time the helmet is grabbed there will be a flag thrown, as there should be. Officials aren't perfect, but ultimately their goal is to help provide safety for all players during the contest. That's why the most of the rules in this game of football are implemented, for the safety of those who participate.

I'm sure most Corbin fans are heartbroken, I would be too, but sometimes the ball just doesn't bounce your way. Sometimes you do enough to pull out a win, but for some reason it doesn't happen. Believe me, I've seen it happen many times in the last twenty years with my favorite team.

[Coachdad]

Central has had football practice 7 of the last 8 Thanksgivings , sometimes tradition and the will to win makes you a lil lucky.