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Tubby's fall from northern grace
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02-23-2013, 06:35 PM
Stardust Wrote:We are not disagreeing at all. A great coach can win with any talent. However, it does not take a great coach to win with GREAT talent. That's been my argument from day one. Brad Steven's in the epitome of a great coach! He is a great X's and O's coach, a great Motivator, and a great Salesman! Some coaches are great salesmen and can "buy" themselves to the top. We all compare coaches to John Wooden. I do believe he was a great X's & O's guy that won by be smarter than the opposing coach. Then, the lure of Westwood landed Hollywood level talent that made it IMPOSSIBLE to lose! If Brad Stevens was at a school that could recruit because of the name on the front of the jersey, like IU, he could become one of the greatest coaches to ever be on the sidelines (if he isn't already).

Something that puzzles me is that people(not just here) can't seem
to make a distinction in degree. It's all or nothing. It's either great or
awful. I've never said Cal was the greatest coach EVER, but defend
his ability a little and people say you're elevating him above Wooden
and Rupp. I've said mulitple times in this thread that Tubby isn't
afwul/terrible, just that he's nowhere near the HOF'er his admirers
proclaim him, that he's mediocre. Yet people say I'm declaring
him the worst ever. I can and do make multiple levels of distinction,
why can't most others? Do their amplifiers just have a 1 and a 10,
with no volume setting in between?
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Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-21-2013, 04:10 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-21-2013, 04:14 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-21-2013, 06:57 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-21-2013, 09:19 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Granny Bear - 02-21-2013, 11:18 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 02-22-2013, 01:27 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-22-2013, 07:08 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Granny Bear - 02-22-2013, 09:47 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by toussaints - 02-22-2013, 10:50 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by LWC - 02-22-2013, 12:10 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by LWC - 02-22-2013, 12:16 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-22-2013, 02:37 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-22-2013, 02:39 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-22-2013, 02:42 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Westside - 02-22-2013, 02:58 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-22-2013, 03:21 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-22-2013, 04:32 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-22-2013, 04:44 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by insideinfo - 02-22-2013, 05:03 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-22-2013, 05:54 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 02-22-2013, 07:48 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Granny Bear - 02-22-2013, 10:03 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Westside - 02-23-2013, 10:28 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by LWC - 02-23-2013, 10:43 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 12:42 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 12:44 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by toussaints - 02-23-2013, 12:57 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 03:29 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 03:31 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 03:38 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 03:52 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 03:55 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 03:59 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 04:09 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 04:35 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Westside - 02-23-2013, 04:47 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 04:54 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 05:07 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 05:16 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 05:17 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 05:24 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 05:40 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Stardust - 02-23-2013, 05:42 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Westside - 02-23-2013, 05:54 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 06:05 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Stardust - 02-23-2013, 06:22 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 06:29 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 06:35 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 07:10 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 02-23-2013, 07:33 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Fatt Jones - 02-23-2013, 08:22 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by toussaints - 02-24-2013, 09:45 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Fatt Jones - 02-24-2013, 09:50 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by LOOKAYANNER - 02-24-2013, 10:13 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Fatt Jones - 02-24-2013, 10:38 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-24-2013, 11:00 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Warthog - 02-24-2013, 12:22 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by LOOKAYANNER - 02-24-2013, 01:10 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-24-2013, 01:52 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Westside - 02-24-2013, 02:06 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by vundy33 - 02-24-2013, 04:15 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Fatt Jones - 02-24-2013, 04:44 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-24-2013, 07:15 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-24-2013, 08:06 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Stardust - 02-24-2013, 11:09 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-25-2013, 04:05 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-25-2013, 04:08 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-25-2013, 04:20 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-25-2013, 04:33 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Westside - 02-25-2013, 04:43 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 02-25-2013, 08:26 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-26-2013, 08:41 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-26-2013, 04:50 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by vundy33 - 02-26-2013, 07:34 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-26-2013, 10:14 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 02-26-2013, 10:31 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-26-2013, 11:04 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by vundy33 - 02-26-2013, 11:21 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-27-2013, 12:12 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-27-2013, 10:21 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by LWC - 02-27-2013, 10:37 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Westside - 02-27-2013, 10:54 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Cat Daddy - 02-27-2013, 01:38 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Stardust - 02-27-2013, 02:00 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-27-2013, 07:39 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-01-2013, 12:29 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-01-2013, 12:36 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-01-2013, 12:41 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-01-2013, 06:57 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-01-2013, 08:29 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-01-2013, 09:25 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 03-01-2013, 10:34 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-01-2013, 10:44 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 12:49 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-02-2013, 12:54 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-02-2013, 01:14 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 01:15 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 01:16 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 01:18 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-02-2013, 01:49 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 01:49 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 01:54 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-02-2013, 01:58 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-02-2013, 02:13 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 03:22 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-02-2013, 03:40 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 05:17 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 05:19 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 03-02-2013, 06:03 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 06:43 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 03-02-2013, 06:47 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Stardust - 03-02-2013, 07:04 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-02-2013, 07:07 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 03-02-2013, 07:10 PM

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