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Nerlens Noel out for season
#61
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Theres only one problem with your theory....

This years frosh class SUCKS. Plain and simple. Next years will not. And even if they do stay there not going to be "leaders", there going to be pissed off all the time that there not playing.

That statement is absurd. This year's frosh have loads of talent.
What most of them have lacked is the maturity that most
of the previous 3 years' frosh have possessed. They can all
end up being very effective players, and any of them that are
next year's team will likely be solid contributors.
#62
sstack Wrote:There is nothing simple about a torn ACL, not only do you have to hope you body heals properly, there is also the mental recovery that some people never over come.

Simple was probably a poor choice of wording, as far as anyone knows
this is a stand alone injury caused by an accident. Bowie's problems
weren't the product of accidents so mush as underlying structural
deficiency in his leg. And it's true that some people don't
recover. but today the odds are GREATLY in favor of elite
athletes to make excellent recoveries. Knowing no more than
he is having surgery to repair a torn ACL, the odds are that
he will return as a very effective version of himself.
#63
Observing Wrote:That statement is absurd. This year's frosh have loads of talent.
What most of them have lacked is the maturity that most
of the previous 3 years' frosh have possessed. They can all
end up being very effective players, and any of them that are
next year's team will likely be solid contributors.

Last years class had loads of talent.
This years class is overrated.
Take off your blue goggles.
#64
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Last years class had loads of talent.
This years class is overrated.
Take off your blue goggles.

This years class has the talent, they just don't know how to play as a team they still want to be the superstars. Untill they start playing together and stop this I'm gonna get mine attitude they aren't going to win very many games.

Your the one who needs to take off your this team sucks goggles!! Be a lover not a hatter.

If these guys are as bad as you say then why in the hell are they prodicted to be first or second round picks?? Don't you think the gm's in the nba know a lot more about there skills than you? Your just one of those people that say if UK isn't winning every game they suck, you may want to have your cake and eat it to every year but that's just not possible. Not with the way kids are one and done. The biggest thing this team lacks is experience and leadership.
#65
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Last years class had loads of talent.
This years class is overrated.
Take off your blue goggles.

No, don't be dimwitted. This year's crop of freshmen
has more talent than any other team's. No it can't compare
to last year's, but aside from Cal's first recruting class and
next, what class ever did?

There's Blue Goggles true, but those are the kinds of
people that are still saying "we'll win #9 easy this year"
or were saying "Tubby's a HOF coach in 2007".
YOU are being an example of the flip side of the
coin, where if the Cats aren't beating everybody
by 20 "they suck" and if a player is only pretty
good then "wish they'd transfer". PATHETIC.
#66
Here's a thought....he goes to class, rehabs, makes a solid recovery and comes back to play next year for UK.

Another year wiser, stronger, and will still be a lottery pick....but that would make way too much sense.
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#67
Observing Wrote:Only thing you could have been 'implying" was that Noel would
have continuing injuires like Bowie did, what other implication could ther haev been?

And it's true each person is differnt, and Noel may never even
walk again without a walker. But the odds are that he WILL
heal back to about 95% of what he was.

Bowie's last year at Kentucky was amazing. That is what I'm implying.
#68
Real Badman Wrote:Bowie's last year at Kentucky was amazing. That is what I'm implying.

Okay. Though unless you're saying it was amazing how he finally came back from injury, I can't see that. He came back and was a good, effective
player, on a team that would have won it all but for an unbelievable
fluke of a bad day shooting, but I can't say his play was amazing.
#69
Spirit100 Wrote:Here's a thought....he goes to class, rehabs, makes a solid recovery and comes back to play next year for UK.

Another year wiser, stronger, and will still be a lottery pick....but that would make way too much sense.

How does it "make sense" to bypass draft lottery selection?
#70
panther nation Wrote:This years class has the talent, they just don't know how to play as a team they still want to be the superstars. Untill they start playing together and stop this I'm gonna get mine attitude they aren't going to win very many games.

Your the one who needs to take off your this team sucks goggles!! Be a lover not a hatter.

If these guys are as bad as you say then why in the hell are they prodicted to be first or second round picks?? Don't you think the gm's in the nba know a lot more about there skills than you? Your just one of those people that say if UK isn't winning every game they suck, you may want to have your cake and eat it to every year but that's just not possible. Not with the way kids are one and done. The biggest thing this team lacks is experience and leadership.

Im not a hater, but i call it like i see it.
This team is bad. Ive never known of a "good" team missing the tourney.
By seasons end, i will be amazed if Goodwin and Poythress are still projected to go in the first round. If so, it shows the overall level of college basketball being way down this year.
Almost every Calipari coached team is going to "lack" experience. Its the way he recruits.
#71
Observing Wrote:No, don't be dimwitted. This year's crop of freshmen
has more talent than any other team's. No it can't compare
to last year's, but aside from Cal's first recruting class and
next, what class ever did?

There's Blue Goggles true, but those are the kinds of
people that are still saying "we'll win #9 easy this year"
or were saying "Tubby's a HOF coach in 2007".
YOU are being an example of the flip side of the
coin, where if the Cats aren't beating everybody
by 20 "they suck" and if a player is only pretty
good then "wish they'd transfer". PATHETIC.

Confusednicker:

Pathetic huh?
I will never understand you or your comments, nor will i try, as no one else takes you serious, nor will they ever.
Quit being a homer. Its okay to be a fan, but to say this is a "good" team is absurd. When Wiltjer is your biggest offensive threat, youve got some major problems.
#72
Whether it be UK, Duke, or my cards. I hate seeing somebody get injured! Especially a kid with as much talent as Noel. Wish him the best and a speedy recovery. Kentucky and Cal has been very blessed to not have injuries over his 4 years there. This is really the first injury to a key player there. Actually the first one I know of besides Jon Hood
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"IT'S ALL JESUS"
#73
Man I sort of took seeing Noel in a UK jersey for granted...I definitely think he leaves though. Still being top 5 would be amazing. Good luck to him in whatever he chooses, whether he goes or stays.

Although I must say, if he stays they need to go ahead and give us the trophy, lol.
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#74
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Im not a hater, but i call it like i see it.
This team is bad. Ive never known of a "good" team missing the tourney.
By seasons end, i will be amazed if Goodwin and Poythress are still projected to go in the first round. If so, it shows the overall level of college basketball being way down this year.
Almost every Calipari coached team is going to "lack" experience. Its the way he recruits.

As of right now this team isn't in any danger of missing the tourney.
If they respond in a negative way to Noel's injury, they very well
may fall out, but they're safely in as of today. And this team certainly
isn't great, and not even really good by UK standards, but they
aren't awful, and have been getting better just as all Cal's
teams have done here for 3 past seasons.

And this is the first of 4 Cal team's that hasn't had key experience.
And next year's team is going to have JUNIORS Wiltjer and Harrow,
and probably at least one of Goodwin or Poythress. Teams that
have LOTS of seniors and juniors are teams that will almost certainly
not have enough talent to win a title.

One thing I do have to agree with is that this year college basketball
is down overall.
#75
^^Personally I like this season of college basketball. Its not top heavy with 2 or 3 teams. Makes it a heck of alot of fun to watch and you never know what to expect. The drafts lately have been way down anyway too though. We havent had a dominant player in the draft like a Lebron Or Durant since Blake Griffin and I dont see anybody in the next couple that will be either
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IAJ
"IT'S ALL JESUS"
#76
^^^Wait Till The NBA Gets A Tast Of Mr Wiggins!!!!
#77
My opinion it would be in the best interest that they whole team to stay another year or two!!!!

COMEBACK NERLENS!!!

I think that this is a big opportunity for Cauley-Stein, Poythress, Wiltjer to step up in the place of Nerlens!! I think that the cats will be just fine! Only true hard games left on the schedule are @Tennessee, Missouri, @Arkansas, Florida We could easly split those games!!!!

Predictions.....

SEC - (13-5) 3rd In Standings
Overall (22-9) 6th Seed NCAA
#78
theVILLE Wrote:^^Personally I like this season of college basketball. Its not top heavy with 2 or 3 teams. Makes it a heck of alot of fun to watch and you never know what to expect. The drafts lately have been way down anyway too though. We havent had a dominant player in the draft like a Lebron Or Durant since Blake Griffin and I dont see anybody in the next couple that will be either

You need to go watch Andrew Wiggins then man. Next big NBA star and best high school player I've ever watched, and I've watched quite a few.
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#79
theVILLE Wrote:^^Personally I like this season of college basketball. Its not top heavy with 2 or 3 teams. Makes it a heck of alot of fun to watch and you never know what to expect. The drafts lately have been way down anyway too though. We havent had a dominant player in the draft like a Lebron Or Durant since Blake Griffin and I dont see anybody in the next couple that will be either

The ONLY team that one could actually make a case for as being
a true dominant team is Miami. And they are a team that has no
post season pedigree and will have to prove themselves all over
again once March arrives.

As for the rest, there are just no teams that one can make a
convincing case for as being top heavy. The 2 preseason
faves, IU and U of L, both have losses that just shouldn't
be on the resume of a clear favorite. Duke has played fairly
consistently but just doesn't have real top 5, maybe not even real
top 10 material, and also have a BLOWOUT to Miami on their
record. For about 3 days it looked like Florida might establish
themselves as the big dog, but the kind of loss they took
at Arkansas shows they can throw a real gobbler out too.

So far from being top heavy, this is actually a season with
bulk in say the top 12-15 teams. It truly is a year that we
could get an unexpected winner, maybe a non power conference
member for the first time going back to Marquette in 77.
(you could say U of L in 80, but even though the Cards
weren't a power conference member, their basketball
pedigree can't let them count in that group)

March is MAD because of the craziness of the first two rounds.
The Sweet 16 almost always ends the zaniness. But this year
may actually see the Sweet 16, even FF be almost as wild.
There just are NO really good teams. And the just good teams
have very little seperation between them and the better than
decent teams. Here's hoping that's EXACLTY how it turns
out.
#80
Observing Wrote:As of right now this team isn't in any danger of missing the tourney.
If they respond in a negative way to Noel's injury, they very well
may fall out, but they're safely in as of today. And this team certainly
isn't great, and not even really good by UK standards, but they
aren't awful, and have been getting better just as all Cal's
teams have done here for 3 past seasons.

And this is the first of 4 Cal team's that hasn't had key experience.
And next year's team is going to have JUNIORS Wiltjer and Harrow,
and probably at least one of Goodwin or Poythress. Teams that
have LOTS of seniors and juniors are teams that will almost certainly
not have enough talent to win a title.

One thing I do have to agree with is that this year college basketball
is down overall.


Ill be honest, i read the first sentence and stopped. That is the most absurd statement ive ever heard and is only said because of being to much of a homer.
If you think UK has no chance of missing the tourney, your crazy.
#81
I hope Nerlens' rehab goes well.
#82
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Ill be honest, i read the first sentence and stopped. That is the most absurd statement ive ever heard and is only said because of being to much of a homer.
If you think UK has no chance of missing the tourney, your crazy.

Absurdity would be the definition of most of your posts.

Also you appear to have trouble with reading comprehension.
What I said was that as of right now UK is in. Going forward
they could well play themselves out if they don't respond well
to the Noel loss. It was simply a statement contradicting
the looniness of posters like you that are claiming UK is already
elminated from the NCAA.

In all honesty, you post like you've been the victim of too many
blows to the head from your buddy Ray.
#83
Observing Wrote:Absurdity would be the definition of most of your posts.

Also you appear to have trouble with reading comprehension.
What I said was that as of right now UK is in. Going forward
they could well play themselves out if they don't respond well
to the Noel loss. It was simply a statement contradicting
the looniness of posters like you that are claiming UK is already
elminated from the NCAA.

In all honesty, you post like you've been the victim of too many
blows to the head from your buddy Ray.

No i see why everyone just replies to you with a

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Its that way because even if UK misses the tourney, you'd still be on here saying they were in.
#84
UK is in big trouble for the rest of the season.
#85
vundy33 Wrote:You need to go watch Andrew Wiggins then man. Next big NBA star and best high school player I've ever watched, and I've watched quite a few.

If there is a big time star in the NBA it will be Wiggins. But I cant see him being a LBJ or KD type player. You guys said the same about John Wall. you never even hear of him now.You hear more about Bledsoe and Cousins that Wall. But Ill agree Wiggins has the Potential to be something but I cant see him been that great
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"IT'S ALL JESUS"
#86
Observing Wrote:The ONLY team that one could actually make a case for as being
a true dominant team is Miami. And they are a team that has no
post season pedigree and will have to prove themselves all over
again once March arrives.

As for the rest, there are just no teams that one can make a
convincing case for as being top heavy. The 2 preseason
faves, IU and U of L, both have losses that just shouldn't
be on the resume of a clear favorite. Duke has played fairly
consistently but just doesn't have real top 5, maybe not even real
top 10 material, and also have a BLOWOUT to Miami on their
record. For about 3 days it looked like Florida might establish
themselves as the big dog, but the kind of loss they took
at Arkansas shows they can throw a real gobbler out too.

So far from being top heavy, this is actually a season with
bulk in say the top 12-15 teams. It truly is a year that we
could get an unexpected winner, maybe a non power conference
member for the first time going back to Marquette in 77.
(you could say U of L in 80, but even though the Cards
weren't a power conference member, their basketball
pedigree can't let them count in that group)

March is MAD because of the craziness of the first two rounds.
The Sweet 16 almost always ends the zaniness. But this year
may actually see the Sweet 16, even FF be almost as wild.
There just are NO really good teams. And the just good teams
have very little seperation between them and the better than
decent teams. Here's hoping that's EXACLTY how it turns
out.

Honestly I think college hoops is just that good this year. About 12 really good teams that could make a run and win it, then about 25 that are mediocre that can make a good case for the FF. Sure IU and UL has loses on their resume that is bad. Honestly Nova is the only loss that really disappoints me on the cards resume. Cuse we were one play away, we got cheated in the final minute big time! Duke beat us and deserved it, but we didnt have Dieng. Gtown beat us @Gtown and we were one play away from that and thats nothing to be ashamed of and @ND and the Luck of the Irsish going the way it was? Yeah Im not ashamed of that either. But like you said, NO team is dominant this year and thats why March is gonna be CRAZY!
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IAJ
"IT'S ALL JESUS"
#87
theVILLE Wrote:If there is a big time star in the NBA it will be Wiggins. But I cant see him being a LBJ or KD type player. You guys said the same about John Wall. you never even hear of him now.You hear more about Bledsoe and Cousins that Wall. But Ill agree Wiggins has the Potential to be something but I cant see him been that great

Wall was out over half the year with a knee injury. He'll make noise, have no fear. How about your buddy Peyton Siva. You still think he's better than Wall??

Back to Noel, 4 of the 13 GM's for lottery teams have said they would without hesitation take Nerlens with first overall pick. You still think there is a glimmer he's coming back?? I think not.
#88
theVILLE Wrote:Honestly I think college hoops is just that good this year. About 12 really good teams that could make a run and win it, then about 25 that are mediocre that can make a good case for the FF. Sure IU and UL has loses on their resume that is bad. Honestly Nova is the only loss that really disappoints me on the cards resume. Cuse we were one play away, we got cheated in the final minute big time! Duke beat us and deserved it, but we didnt have Dieng. Gtown beat us @Gtown and we were one play away from that and thats nothing to be ashamed of and @ND and the Luck of the Irsish going the way it was? Yeah Im not ashamed of that either. But like you said, NO team is dominant this year and thats why March is gonna be CRAZY!

College hoops isnt that good this year, theres so much parity because its that bad.

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