[Granny Bear]

Oh, and notice the link RealVille!

[4_real]

Why are you hoping??? You usually sound so sure. Are you backing out this soon?????

It's called humility. A nice trait to have. Would may have made a difference in this election if a certain group of elephants tried using it.

[4_real]

This may be the dumbest statement I've ever read on here. Where do you think Eastern Kentuckians go for apparel, restaurants, weekend getaways, etc.? What name do you think is on that fancy new dorm for the UK basketball players? Whose name is on the UK basketball practice facility? Who lets Coach Cal use their personal jet for recruiting? It's called a trickle down effect. Without coal in Eastern KY, the money will not be there for them to continue to stimulate Fayette County's economy. And whether you like to admit it or not, Lexington will see a huge financial hit should coal mining evaporate in Eastern Ky.

That, my friend, is how a Republican thinks. You know, we think about money and how we can make it, and how it may affect us going forward. Not how we can go about getting something as a hand out like the rest of you socialist idiots.

So what your saying is Lexington will be a ghost town because Obama was re-elected?

[the other guy]

The republians are going to have to learn what is really going on! My dad worked in the Coal fields during the 1970's when Japan was buying any black rock for $75 a ton, well GUESS what Australian Coal has taken over the market, they can mine it way cheaper and they are closer to tradtional Asian Markets. Union workers built the coal industry , funny how the republicans forget about that! The rich coal owners want to blame all there problems on Obama when the truth is they are worried about paying TAXS. Now that their plan to push Obama out of Office has failed they will be mining coal again soon. Wait and watch!

You have never worked in the mines and you know nothing about the union bums I worked with at Beth-elk horn mine #29 at Virgie, ky. It was a good job I made good money but a bunch of sorry ass bums finely forced it to close. The united mine workers of America is some of the dumbest people in the world. They protect the bums and keep supporting democrats who keep screwing them.

And what really sucks, that sorry ass makes the same money as a good worker union rules. I never needed union protection I could get a job, I worked and I was good at what I did.

And business doesn't really pay taxes they cover expenses. If taxes are increased then prices are raised or money in cut elsewhere(wages for example)
So all these taxes you seem to be for will be paid in the end my you.

[Wildcatk23]

PIKEVILLE, Ky. — An eastern Kentucky official says nearly 150 coal jobs are returning to the area.

Pike County Judge-Executive Wayne T. Rutherford said in a statement on Tuesday that two different coal mines are bringing a total of about 150 miners back to work. He cited new orders for coal as the reason the companies are bringing back workers.

Rutherford said he hopes the move helps "boost our local economy" and is a sign that the trend of cutting jobs in the industry is over.

© 2012 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

[Wildcatk23]

PIKEVILLE, Ky. — An eastern Kentucky official says nearly 150 coal jobs are returning to the area.

Pike County Judge-Executive Wayne T. Rutherford said in a statement on Tuesday that two different coal mines are bringing a total of about 150 miners back to work. He cited new orders for coal as the reason the companies are bringing back workers.

Rutherford said he hopes the move helps "boost our local economy" and is a sign that the trend of cutting jobs in the industry is over.

© 2012 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

[the other guy]

PIKEVILLE, Ky. — An eastern Kentucky official says nearly 150 coal jobs are returning to the area.

Pike County Judge-Executive Wayne T. Rutherford said in a statement on Tuesday that two different coal mines are bringing a total of about 150 miners back to work. He cited new orders for coal as the reason the companies are bringing back workers.

Rutherford said he hopes the move helps "boost our local economy" and is a sign that the trend of cutting jobs in the industry is over.

© 2012 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

I hope so but lose 750 and get back 150 don't help much.

[TheRealVille]

I hope so but lose 750 and get back 150 don't help much.

Give it a little time, they can't play politics with it now.

[Hoot Gibson]

Give it a little time, they can't play politics with it now.

Businesses don't operate that way. If coal companies are profitable, then they are operating. They will even operate at a loss for awhile to avoid losing their best employees. If they can't make money, then they idle mines. Obama has not changed the way that businesses make decisions. What he has done is lower expectations of coal company owners of future profits. They have been and will continue to be very pessimistic about future prospects for good reason.

[TheRealVille]

Businesses don't operate that way. If coal companies are profitable, then they are operating. They will even operate at a loss for awhile to avoid losing their best employees. If they can't make money, then they idle mines. Obama has not changed the way that businesses make decisions. What he has done is lower expectations of coal company owners of future profits. They have been and will continue to be very pessimistic about future prospects for good reason.

Extremely warm last Winter, record low gas prices, coal selling prices cheap, coal mining prices high, and western coal selling at 6-8 dollars a ton. My buddy that knows some of the top people at Alpha said they told him that Alpha was sitting on huge amounts of coal, millions and millions of tons, refusing to mine it. It memory serves, it was 150 million tons.

[TheRealVille]

^ You can blame Obama all you want, but it just isn't so.

[Hoot Gibson]

Extremely warm last Winter, record low gas prices, coal selling prices cheap, coal mining prices high, and western coal selling at 6-8 dollars a ton. My buddy that knows some of the top people at Alpha said they told him that Alpha was sitting on huge amounts of coal, millions and millions of tons, refusing to mine it. It memory serves, it was 150 million tons.

The amount of coal reserves that a company controls has nothing to do with whether they can mine it profitably. If the coal is leased, then in tough economic times, modern leases generally force companies to mine a minimal amount of coal or forfeit prepaid royalties to avoid defaulting on their leases. Coal company owners do not decide to operate mines or shut them down to impact elections. However, a powerful politician declaring war on the mining industry can influence how patient they will be in riding out a poor economy and even worse regulatory environment.

[TheRealVille]

If republicans don't deal with their far right fringe problem, they are done. Political strategists are even predicting that if republicans don't straighten their mess out, even TX could lean blue in the next several years.


They better also rethink some social issues, or it is a dying party, mark it down.

[SKINNYPIG]

If republicans don't deal with their far right fringe problem, they are done. Political strategists are even predicting that if republicans don't straighten their mess out, even TX could lean blue in the next several years.


They better also rethink some social issues, or it is a dying party, mark it down.

The last two candidates the republicans have put up are probably the least "far right fringe" than any before.

Please tell me what far right extremist traits Romney or McCain had?

The LAST thing republicans need to do is listen to these so called strategists. I choose to lose from now on before I let someone tell me to rethink anything. And lose happily.

If you listen to the media, republicans need to be democrats. Sorry, I ain't buying it.

The republican party better learn how to better promote conservatism if they ever plan on winning again.

[Hoot Gibson]

The last two candidates the republicans have put up are probably the least "far right fringe" than any before.

Please tell me what far right extremist traits Romney or McCain had?

The LAST thing republicans need to do is listen to these so called strategists. I choose to lose from now on before I let someone tell me to rethink anything. And lose happily.

If you listen to the media, republicans need to be democrats. Sorry, I ain't buying it.

The republican party better learn how to better promote conservatism if they ever plan on winning again.

Well said, SP! Even though campaigns are getting longer each cycle, I don't know if any Republican will have the time or money necessary to teach a majority of the electorate fundamental economics and the connection between personal and economic liberty and prosperity - but neither McCain nor Romney gave it much of an effort. Republicans are nominating candidates who preach to the choir when they need evangelical types who will appeal both to voter's heads and hearts.

For now, some heads need to roll within the Republican Party. McConnell, Boehner, and Reince Priebus would be a good start. Vote Rubio into the Majority Leader spot in the Senate. I am not sure who should be the House Speaker but Boehner is definitely the wrong man at the wrong time. The seniority system is not working. Conservatism needs some articulate voices to combat the Santa Claus factor, which trades trinkets for the security of future generations.

[TheRealVille]

The last two candidates the republicans have put up are probably the least "far right fringe" than any before.

Please tell me what far right extremist traits Romney or McCain had?

The LAST thing republicans need to do is listen to these so called strategists. I choose to lose from now on before I let someone tell me to rethink anything. And lose happily.

If you listen to the media, republicans need to be democrats. Sorry, I ain't buying it.

The republican party better learn how to better promote conservatism if they ever plan on winning again.

The very people Hoot is talking about above. It's not all about the Presidential candidate, most of your problem is in the house, plus the far right governors out there. You better oust the "tea party". America isn't having it anymore. Mitch McConnell types is a prime example of who you better deal with, the party of no.

[SKINNYPIG]

Well said, SP! Even though campaigns are getting longer each cycle, I don't know if any Republican will have the time or money necessary to teach a majority of the electorate fundamental economics and the connection between personal and economic liberty and prosperity - but neither McCain nor Romney gave it much of an effort. Republicans are nominating candidates who preach to the choir when they need evangelical types who will appeal both to voter's heads and hearts.

For now, some heads need to roll within the Republican Party. McConnell, Boehner, and Reince Priebus would be a good start. Vote Rubio into the Majority Leader spot in the Senate. I am not sure who should be the House Speaker but Boehner is definitely the wrong man at the wrong time. The seniority system is not working. Conservatism needs some articulate voices to combat the Santa Claus factor, which trades trinkets for the security of future generations.

We're definitely on the same page Hoot.

I'd love to put Rubio at the forefront today. It worries me though. That's four years for the mainstream media and the democrat party to rip him to shreds, and the dumb masses will hang on every word their favorite anchorman spews. We gotta do something though, hope he gets there.

[SKINNYPIG]

The very people Hoot is talking about above. It's not all about the Presidential candidate, most of your problem is in the house, plus the far right governors out there. You better oust the "tea party". America isn't having it anymore. Mitch McConnell types is a prime example of who you better deal with, the party of no.

I haven't seen anything from Harry Reid and the rest that any conservative could say yes to.

[Hoot Gibson]

We're definitely on the same page Hoot.

I'd love to put Rubio at the forefront today. It worries me though. That's four years for the mainstream media and the democrat party to rip him to shreds, and the dumb masses will hang on every word their favorite anchorman spews. We gotta do something though, hope he gets there.

Yes, it would be risky, but it would give him a high profile and build name recognition. If he cannot fend off media attacks and elevate the public's perception of Congress, then it would be better to find out over the next couple of years instead of in 2016. Another thought, which I have heard Mark Levin toss out is to consider electing a non-House member as Speaker. It has never been done, but according to Levin, the Constitution does not require that the Speaker be a member. I would love to see Republicans give it a shot by voting Col. Alan West into the Speaker's position. IMO, West is the best off-script proponent of conservatism in the GOP and his defeat last night is just one of many reasons that Priebus needs to go. West does not have the experience to run in 2016, but if the GOP voted him into the Speaker's position (and he was not ruled ineligible by the Supreme Court), he would have the experience before the next election. I love watching West speak and I cannot be alone in having that opinion.

Thanks to Priebus, Michelle Bachmann almost lost, and Mia Love did lose her race in Utah. Those were critical seats to win and Republicans should have pulled out all stops to win them. The GOP owed Bachmann big time for her GOTV effort in the 2010 mid-term elections, but I got the feeling that Boehner and Priebus would have been happy to have seen Bachmann lose last night.

[SKINNYPIG]

Yes, it would be risky, but it would give him a high profile and build name recognition. If he cannot fend off media attacks and elevate the public's perception of Congress, then it would be better to find out over the next couple of years instead of in 2016. Another thought, which I have heard Mark Levin toss out is to consider electing a non-House member as Speaker. It has never been done, but according to Levin, the Constitution does not require that the Speaker be a member. I would love to see Republicans give it a shot by voting Col. Alan West into the Speaker's position. IMO, West is the best off-script proponent of conservatism in the GOP and his defeat last night is just one of many reasons that Priebus needs to go. West does not have the experience to run in 2016, but if the GOP voted him into the Speaker's position (and he was not ruled ineligible by the Supreme Court), he would have the experience before the next election. I love watching West speak and I cannot be alone in having that opinion.

Thanks to Priebus, Michelle Bachmann almost lost, and Mia Love did lose her race in Utah. Those were critical seats to win and Republicans should have pulled out all stops to win them. The GOP owed Bachmann big time for her GOTV effort in the 2010 mid-term elections, but I got the feeling that Boehner and Priebus would have been happy to have seen Bachmann lose last night.

Boehner would most definitely like it if Bachmann lost...Crazy!

Alan West is one of my favorites, love to see him as Speaker.

[TheRealVille]

I like Rubio. I also like Christie. I just wish the republican party would leave the unions alone. We are only 10% or less of the work force, that leaves 90 or better. Also, stay out of peoples' social lives. America is going left socially, the republican are going to have to let go of some of those issues. America can be conservative economically, and still be socially more left leaning. It looks like America wants that.

[Hoot Gibson]

The very people Hoot is talking about above. It's not all about the Presidential candidate, most of your problem is in the house, plus the far right governors out there. You better oust the "tea party". America isn't having it anymore. Mitch McConnell types is a prime example of who you better deal with, the party of no.

How do you figure, RV? The House picked up seats in this election and Romney and McCain are both moderates and both lost. The only reason West and Love lost is that Democrats poured money into their districts because their is nothing more threatening to them than a black conservative.

One thing that we do agree on, is that McConnell-types do not should not be the face of the party. The GOP needs some leaders than can draw cameras and crowds when they speak. People who can articulate the traditional American values of personal and economic liberty, a strong work ethic, and real sense of community that socialism drains from a population. McConnell may do a fine job counting noses behind the scenes but he is a dull guest on the weekly talk shows where Republicans need some prime time players.

[TheRealThing]

If republicans don't deal with their far right fringe problem, they are done. Political strategists are even predicting that if republicans don't straighten their mess out, even TX could lean blue in the next several years.


They better also rethink some social issues, or it is a dying party, mark it down.

Let's not start dancing in the streets quite yet. What's dying is the nation. The tanking reaction on Wall Street today shows the level of concern business has that Obama was reelected. It's laughable to read your take on the state of affairs right now, calling republicans far right (they're normal folks) while your excuse your own far left problem. Obama would not have won had it not been for his promises, to hand all the no-works their heart's desire.

The dems are feeling pretty smug right now but I forsee a problem. The strategy of encouraging the flood of hispanics to recruit them into the party, is a self inflicted wound that has little likelihood of ever healing. The way I see it, this idea of flooding the land with immigrants is very similar in nature to the Asian silver carp situation in the Wabash River Basin system in Indiana. The species, introduced into American waters in the mid 70's, now range from Louisiana, to the Ohio river, up through Indiana and are presently poised to invade the Great Lakes. They grow at an astounding rate reaching 40 lbs when fully grown. Originally brought in by biologists to control algea in waste water treatment facilities, they have 'broken out' and other fish species are decimated as a result of their introduction. Same thing with this explosion of bought voters. It's a strategy that will destroy the dynamic of our nation and that includes democrats, liberals and other left loons. Matter of fact, it has already changed the democrats into enemies of the state, as they are now obviously willing to alienate the rest of the nation in order to stay in power. A little bit of algea was nothing compared to the havoc this rogue species has wreaked on the water ways it has thus far invaded. Likewise, the damage the dems are doing to their own party, and the nation in general, is significant.

If Obama does not deliver this time around, the dems are had.

[Hoot Gibson]

How do you figure, RV? The House picked up seats in this election and Romney and McCain are both moderates and both lost. The only reason West and Love lost is that Democrats poured money into their districts because their is nothing more threatening to them than a black conservative.

One thing that we do agree on, is that McConnell-types do not should not be the face of the party. The GOP needs some leaders than can draw cameras and crowds when they speak. People who can articulate the traditional American values of personal and economic liberty, a strong work ethic, and real sense of community that socialism drains from a population. McConnell may do a fine job counting noses behind the scenes but he is a dull guest on the weekly talk shows where Republicans need some prime time players.

vector's poor writin skils is starting to rub off on me. The GOP picked up House seats, the House picked up nothing. "Their" should have been "there." May the grammar gods have mercy on my soul.

[TheRealThing]

How do you figure, RV? The House picked up seats in this election and Romney and McCain are both moderates and both lost. The only reason West and Love lost is that Democrats poured money into their districts because their is nothing more threatening to them than a black conservative.

One thing that we do agree on, is that McConnell-types do not should not be the face of the party. The GOP needs some leaders than can draw cameras and crowds when they speak. People who can articulate the traditional American values of personal and economic liberty, a strong work ethic, and real sense of community that socialism drains from a population. McConnell may do a fine job counting noses behind the scenes but he is a dull guest on the weekly talk shows where Republicans need some prime time players.

So true, there are things that one can say, and there are things one cannot say, especially those on the right. If you're a right thinking politician, even a senate minority leader this case, one cannot say "my number one priority is making sure president Obama's a one-term president." They were able to sell the notion that the republicans were the problem in congress because of that one unfortunate statement. Same thing with Todd Akins and Richard Mourdock. You never put something like that out there when everything you say is recorded. It really is amature hour these days.

[the other guy]

I like Rubio. I also like Christie. I just wish the republican party would leave the unions alone. We are only 10% or less of the work force, that leaves 90 or better. Also, stay out of peoples' social lives. America is going left socially, the republican are going to have to let go of some of those issues. America can be conservative economically, and still be socially more left leaning. It looks like America wants that.

I think a post like this does more to promote your views than a lot of the other stuff you put on here. I think that you would be surprised on how many things that I actually agree with you on.

[vundy33]

I wonder what Israel will do now that Obama is still the man? I wonder what I will do? My job depends on coal and they say the EPA and MSHA are about to go postal on the coal business. Worse than before the election. I also wonder if Obama is going to take us over the fiscal cliff or if he will actually try and save this country? I wonder what will happen to Harlan county and S.E.Kentucky? Many jobless miner's I know say they were waiting it out to see what happened with this election and if Obama wins they were leaving. We could see a mass exodus in Harlan Co.. The coal business was booming before Obama was elected the first time. With all the excitement around the nation because of Obama's reelection,why do we have to be the one's who lose our job's and see our family's break up and move away. It scares me that my children will never get to really know the place where thier family tree was rooted. That tree has been uprooted,sawed up and sent to build a windmill. Whatever happens,God is my keeper. I will trust him and his word til my death and I will praise him for the decision that was made in this country tonight,because,I have to believe that it only leads us all closer to his return and closer to our true home. God is still in control!!!!

Relax man. It's only a few years...we'll get through it and by the EPA somehow.