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you just said that it's possible that some farnsley players have held back for reasons other than sports, correct? If it didn't happen at farnsley, it happened in elementary school. It's the same with schools like meece or corbin. If it's not allowed by the actual school, it happens in previous grades, so their kids are still held back or started late. To my knowledge, no school holds back strictly because of sports. I know maturity is a big issue, as well as grades. If a kid makes b's & c's in the classroom and their parents want to hold them back in effort to bring those up to a's & b's, what's the problem? Yeah the kid plays sports too, big deal.

I'll speak for only our situation on this. We had six 8th graders be selected to post season play. 4 to the kentucky east/west game and 2 to the kentucky fbu state team (1 of which went on to play in the eastbay national all-american game). Would you like to take a guess as to how many of those six players held back this season? One. Hold backs didn't win back-to-back state championships. Heart, hard work, and dedication did.

That's a great example you mentioned with timmy. Let me add this to your example. Let's say that timmy's parents started him in kindergarten late making him one of the oldest kids in his class (therefore also being eligible for the first grade). Little johnnys parents took little johnny out of preschool and started him in kindergarten early. That puts 2 kids into the same grade with a possible 1 day shy of 2 years difference in age. So in 7th grade, you have timmy who is a day from turning 13 and johnny who is 11. No one held back, correct? Is that fair? It's the exact same difference. So back to your example, if timmy isn't as talented as another kid (hold back or not) he is a very important member of our scout team. If timmy or his parents do not accept that it is a team game and not an individual game, timmy somehow transfers to southern or meece, lol. If timmy embraces the team aspect, it puts a ring on his finger at the end of a season.

i didn't say there was i said i did not know.....let me tell you a story ...i stood on the press box roof at lafayette high school and was told by one of pulaski's coaches that they had 8 hold backs on this team and even more lined up for next year now if all those kids have maturity issues i think you should have your water sampled... Something is wrong ... I don't wish to argue the hold back point any futher we are never going to agree on that and to tell you the truth i am sure there are kids who need it but my problem arises when it is a concerted effort to undermine the system. 8 kids in one year that is not a coincidence that is a group effort. Have you ever heard of the department of educational accountability. Let's just say they carry a big stick when it comes to paying for a students education especially when it comes to paying for extra years i'm pretty sure they have heard of your situation and seem very interested