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Top 10 programs in the mountains since 2000?
#1
1. Belfry
2. Bell Co.
3. Breathitt Co.
4. Rock
5. Corbin
6. Johnson Central
7. Hazard
8. P-burg
9. Sheldon Clark
10. Pikeville

My top 10 could be way off, but I am looking for you guys to rate the success of these programs over the past 10+ years.
#2
1. Bell Co.
2. Belfry
3. Hazard
4. P Burg
5. Rock
6. Breathitt Co.
7. Corbin
8. Johnson Central
9. Somerset
10. Whitley Co.

I done this solely off of success in each teams class and district races. I dont think some of these teams could beat others ranked behind them most years, but as far as successful, i think im pretty close.
Teams like Johnson Central are hard to judge though because before 2005 or 2006 they were plain awful. But their recent success can fool you into thinking theyve been great for years but before Matney, it was bad.
Teams like Corbin have won A LOT of games and went to many region championships and that sort of thing, but have probably had the easiest road out of all the teams mentioned above.
#3
1. Bell
2. Belfry
3. Johnson Central
4. Harlan County
5. Corbin
6. Rockcastle
7. Breathitt
8. Prestonsburg
9. Whitley
10. Hazard
#4
1. Belfry- 2 State Titles, 2 Runner-Ups
2. Bell- 1 State Title
3. Breathitt County- 1 State Title, 1 Runner-Up

4a. Hazard- 2 State Runner-Ups
4b. Rockcastle County- 2 State Runner-Ups

6. Johnson Central
7. Corbin- 1 Runner-Up
8. Prestonsburg- 1 Runner-Up
9. Somerset- 1 Runner-Up

10. Pulaski County
#5
EKUAlum05 Wrote:1. Belfry- 2 State Titles, 2 Runner-Ups
2. Bell- 1 State Title
3. Breathitt County- 1 State Title, 1 Runner-Up

4a. Hazard- 2 State Runner-Ups
4b. Rockcastle County- 2 State Runner-Ups

6. Johnson Central
7. Corbin- 1 Runner-Up
8. Prestonsburg- 1 Runner-Up
9. Somerset- 1 Runner-Up

10. Pulaski County

:Thumbs: looks good to me 2 other teams that could be in this #10 spot Pikeville and Middlesboro
#6
EKUAlum05 Wrote:1. Belfry- 2 State Titles, 2 Runner-Ups
2. Bell- 1 State Title
3. Breathitt County- 1 State Title, 1 Runner-Up

4a. Hazard- 2 State Runner-Ups
4b. Rockcastle County- 2 State Runner-Ups

6. Johnson Central
7. Corbin- 1 Runner-Up
8. Prestonsburg- 1 Runner-Up
9. Somerset- 1 Runner-Up

10. Pulaski County

Good list. The top 5 are dead-on. Rock might be the solid #4 if it was not for their terrible last two seasons.
#7
EKUAlum05 Wrote:1. Belfry- 2 State Titles, 2 Runner-Ups
2. Bell- 1 State Title
3. Breathitt County- 1 State Title, 1 Runner-Up

4a. Hazard- 2 State Runner-Ups
4b. Rockcastle County- 2 State Runner-Ups

6. Johnson Central
7. Corbin- 1 Runner-Up
8. Prestonsburg- 1 Runner-Up
9. Somerset- 1 Runner-Up

10. Pulaski County

I like this list.
#8
1. Belfry
2. Bell Co.
3. Breathitt Co.
4. Rockcastle Co.
5. Hazard
6. Prestonsburg
7. Corbin
8. Johnson Central
9. Somerset
10.Sheldon Clark
#9
Cat Daddy Wrote:1. Belfry
2. Bell Co.
3. Breathitt Co.
4. Rockcastle Co.
5. Hazard
6. Prestonsburg
7. Corbin
8. Johnson Central
9. Somerset
10.Sheldon Clark

This one looks pretty fair as well. id replac hazard and rock around because rock has been down a few years here recently.
#10
Belfry is for sure number one. Their sucess make them king of the mountain. It is unbelievable how successful Belfry has been the last ten years. Four trips to the finals and two titles (wow)! Bell has also made several trips to the semis and one trip to the finals. Bell is for sure a strong second because they have won so many regular season games. Both are good programs.
#11
Thats not really true. In 2000 or 2001 JC won the district and finished the year 12-1 or 11-1, something like that. A bad hire in Bruce Humphrey, and the following year there coach had a stroke. Those two years really put them behind until Matney got there.
#12
EKUAlum05 Wrote:1. Belfry- 2 State Titles, 2 Runner-Ups
2. Bell- 1 State Title
3. Breathitt County- 1 State Title, 1 Runner-Up

4a. Hazard- 2 State Runner-Ups
4b. Rockcastle County- 2 State Runner-Ups

6. Johnson Central
7. Corbin- 1 Runner-Up
8. Prestonsburg- 1 Runner-Up
9. Somerset- 1 Runner-Up

10. Pulaski County

Belfry,from 2003-prsent,has been to the atleast the semis except one yr.
#13
JCHS Alumni Eagle Wrote:Thats not really true. In 2000 or 2001 JC won the district and finished the year 12-1 or 11-1, something like that. A bad hire in Bruce Humphrey, and the following year there coach had a stroke. Those two years really put them behind until Matney got there.
You are right about JC being very good early in the decade, including an undefeated regular season and their first district championship (they were in 4A at the time). However, that undefeated regular season was followed with three very bad seasons before Matney arrived - one under Humphrey and two very long seasons under Ross.
#14
1.Bell
2.Belfry
3.Breathitt
4.Rock
5.Johnson central
6.Corbin
7.Pburg
8.Hazard
9.Pikeville
10.Somerset
#15
1. Belfry
2. Bell Co.
3. Breathitt Co.
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#16
king360 Wrote:1.Bell
2.Belfry
3.Breathitt
4.Rock
5.Johnson central
6.Corbin
7.Pburg
8.Hazard
9.Pikeville
10.Somerset

Just don't see an argument for Bell over Belfry at all. The Pirates have a lot more post season success than Bell in that time frame. Bobcats have only one appearance in the state finals. (Even Rock has 2 and I don't think their record is as good as Bell or Belfry)
#17
Hatz Wrote:Just don't see an argument for Bell over Belfry at all. The Pirates have a lot more post season success than Bell in that time frame. Bobcats have only one appearance in the state finals. (Even Rock has 2 and I don't think their record is as good as Bell or Belfry)

The thread isn't about top 10 programs in the mountains with the most post season success it's about the programs.
#18
Post season success makes programs.
#19
So I guess Bell doesn't know anything about post season success.
#20
No. But Belfry has had more of it. So they're the better program for this decade. Bell has had a great decade. But Belfry's resume is overwhelming.
#21
LClion4life Wrote:No. But Belfry has had more of it. So they're the better program for this decade. Bell has had a great decade. But Belfry's resume is overwhelming.

Well you know what they say about opinions.lol. But I respect yours.
#22
king360 Wrote:So I guess Bell doesn't know anything about post season success.

Bell knows plenty, but the run Belfry has been on the past 10 years has been unrivaled.

4 State Finals Appearances
2 State Titles
7 of the last 8 years they have won a Regional Title


I know an arguement can be made for Bell as a "what if" scenario that would involve the loss to the Highlands team with Mitchell, the close losses to Boyle County, and so on. This would help refute the lack of Finals appearance by Bell.

As great of a run Belfry has had, they can play the same "what if" scenario as well though.

- Belfry lost in the 05 Semi's to eventual State Champion Russell in a game that they had scored what would have been the go ahead TD that was erased on an illegal motion call.


- The 08 Belfry team was one of the best teams in the Mountains in the past 10 years and steamrolled everyone. Breathitt caught Belfry in the Semi's with a perfect gameplan and Belfry fumbled the ball inside the redzone driving for the game winning TD.
#23
king360 Wrote:Well you know what they say about opinions.lol. But I respect yours.

As I do yours.
#24
There is no doubt Belfry is by far the best in the last ten years. Bell has had a good program too. several trips to the semis is nothing to be a shamed of. Belfry is just head and shoulders a head of everyone--no disrespect to anyone else--Every program that has been discussed is great. Breathitt has had some great runs too (one state title and one runner up).
#25
Simply put, these are the best two programs in the mountains since 2000. Honestly, if were talking about post season success, then yes id go with Belfry, but overall, year in and year out, id go with Bell. Theyve played tough competetion, and not to mention, theyd have 2 titles as well if it werent for the cheaters up in Ft. Thomas, and the fact that all of there regional runner ups have come to really good Rockcastle teams and those were some battles.

Bell Record Points/Opp Result
2010-13-1 658-123 State Semis
2009-12-2 551-128 State Semis
2008-15-0 644-70 State Champs
2007-12-1 521-116 Regional runner up
2006-9-3 332-145 Second Round
2005-10-3 446-247 regional runner up
2004-13-1 555-101 State Semis (Highlands loss was reversed)
2003-8-2 448-135 First Round loss, only played nine games in regular season
2002-10-3 457-186 Region runner up
2001-9-4 344-205 Region Runner Up
2000-6-5 290-183 First round loss

Overall 117-25/5246 Points Scored/1639 Points gave up
Thats 36.9 Points Per Game and 11.5 Points Allowed Per Game:yikes:

One things for sure, Bells defense over the past 11 years has been the best in the mountains. There state championship team in 08 was remarkable.

Belfry Record Points/Opp Result
2010- 10-5 417-322 State Runner Up
2009- 8-4 380-223 Second Round
2008- 13-1 579-142 State Semis
2007 14-1 627-202 State Runner Up
2006 11-3 487-190 State semis
2005 11-3 516-211 State semis
2004 14-1 574-174 State Champs
2003 13-2 464-185 State Champs
2002 10-3 380-157 Region Runner Up
2001 8-5 359-239 Region Runner Up
2000 7-5 325-257 Second Round Loss

Overall 119-33/5108 Points Scored/2302 Points Allowed
Thats 33.6 Points Per Games and 15.4 Points Allowed Per Game
Post season success has come often for Belfry with two state championships and many semis and region wins.

I guess if i had to pick one, it would have to be a tie. Honestly, while i believe Bell has been better and has produced more, Belfry has more success in the post season.
#26
Bolt Wrote:Simply put, these are the best two programs in the mountains since 2000. Honestly, if were talking about post season success, then yes id go with Belfry, but overall, year in and year out, id go with Bell. Theyve played tough competetion, and not to mention, theyd have 2 titles as well if it werent for the cheaters up in Ft. Thomas, and the fact that all of there regional runner ups have come to really good Rockcastle teams and those were some battles.

Bell Record Points/Opp Result
2010-13-1 658-123 State Semis
2009-12-2 551-128 State Semis
2008-15-0 644-70 State Champs
2007-12-1 521-116 Regional runner up
2006-9-3 332-145 Second Round
2005-10-3 446-247 regional runner up
2004-13-1 555-101 State Semis (Highlands loss was reversed)
2003-8-2 448-135 First Round loss, only played nine games in regular season
2002-10-3 457-186 Region runner up
2001-9-4 344-205 Region Runner Up
2000-6-5 290-183 First round loss

Overall 117-25/5246 Points Scored/1639 Points gave up
Thats 36.9 Points Per Game and 11.5 Points Allowed Per Game:yikes:

One things for sure, Bells defense over the past 11 years has been the best in the mountains. There state championship team in 08 was remarkable.

Belfry Record Points/Opp Result
2010- 10-5 417-322 State Runner Up
2009- 8-4 380-223 Second Round
2008- 13-1 579-142 State Semis
2007 14-1 627-202 State Runner Up
2006 11-3 487-190 State semis
2005 11-3 516-211 State semis
2004 14-1 574-174 State Champs
2003 13-2 464-185 State Champs
2002 10-3 380-157 Region Runner Up
2001 8-5 359-239 Region Runner Up
2000 7-5 325-257 Second Round Loss

Overall 119-33/5108 Points Scored/2302 Points Allowed
Thats 33.6 Points Per Games and 15.4 Points Allowed Per Game
Post season success has come often for Belfry with two state championships and many semis and region wins.

I guess if i had to pick one, it would have to be a tie. Honestly, while i believe Bell has been better and has produced more, Belfry has more success in the post season.

Many Rebel fans would debate that one with you.

Good analysis. Bell deserves a lot of credit but I just think Belfry's holds up more because Post-Season is what matters most and has to be weighted mor than regular season wins. :Thumbs:
#27
Belfry and bell have to be at the top of most lists.
#28
Belfry has definitely been the top mountain team of the past decade. For a 3A school, Belfry's schedule was much tougher over the past decade than Bell County's was.

Bell County has beefed up its schedule recently and has clearly had the second best program over the past decade, but for most of that time the only team that was any kind of threat to them during the season was Rock - and vice versa for Rock. One game decided the district championships and the non-district schedules were weak. Belfry has always played a pretty strong non-district schedule.
#29
Take into consideration that these two schools ALSO have the two winningest coaches in Haywood and Hilton, or did have.
#30
Hatz Wrote:Many Rebel fans would debate that one with you.

Good analysis. Bell deserves a lot of credit but I just think Belfry's holds up more because Post-Season is what matters most and has to be weighted mor than regular season wins. :Thumbs:

Yea, your right, however it was just a guess. I was at that game on log mountain when Highlands won and no matter what Highlands fans say, without mitchell, they wouldnt have won that one.
Its a shame Bell and Boyle didnt get to play that one out, but i honestly believe Bell would have won.

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