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Tubby's fall from northern grace
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03-02-2013, 01:49 PM
Observing Wrote:"All you have"? You can fill encyclopaedias with what there is.
Hoot just picked out Izzo, and cherry picked 2 games from the
whole body of work. Not so pretty when you look at the whole
story.

But forget about any individual comparison, or any single
factor. Tubby's players don't get better playing under
him. Tubby's teams don't improve as the season progresses.
Tubby never accepts responsibility for anything. Tubby
has never gotten a team to the FF other than the 1 title team
that he had bequeathed to him. HOW can anyone maintain
that he's anything other than a mediocrity? And accident
of circumstance. Accomplishing nothing that a couple hundred
more coaches couldn't have done had they stumbled into
his positions?
Wrong, Einstein. You picked out Izzo as an example of a coach who just loved seeing Minnesota on his schedule because, by your account, he is a mediocre coach who can't recruit and is a bad bench coach. What I did was point out the obvious. Minnesota has split with Michigan State this season. This debate started over your assertions that Minnesota is a bad team playing for a mediocre coach.

You cannot support your opinion because the facts to support it are no where to be found. Coaches winning nearly 70 percent of their games over a career are anything but mediocre. Shirley, even you must realize that, but you just cannot bring yourself to face the obvious facts. Tubby is not perfect, but no coach is.

No coach will be happy drawing Minnesota in the early rounds of the tournament. They are big, athletic, and well coached. Ask Tom Izzo, Tom Crean, or Bo Ryan. Crean said after Indiana's loss that Tubby is a Hall of Fame caliber coach.

I am finished with this subject. You seem to be the only person left who wants to argue that Tubby is a mediocre coach, and you are making an exceptionally weak case. :biglmao:
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Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-21-2013, 04:10 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-21-2013, 04:14 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-21-2013, 06:57 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-21-2013, 09:19 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Granny Bear - 02-21-2013, 11:18 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 02-22-2013, 01:27 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-22-2013, 07:08 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Granny Bear - 02-22-2013, 09:47 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by toussaints - 02-22-2013, 10:50 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by LWC - 02-22-2013, 12:10 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by LWC - 02-22-2013, 12:16 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-22-2013, 02:37 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-22-2013, 02:39 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-22-2013, 02:42 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Westside - 02-22-2013, 02:58 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-22-2013, 03:21 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-22-2013, 04:32 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-22-2013, 04:44 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by insideinfo - 02-22-2013, 05:03 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-22-2013, 05:54 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 02-22-2013, 07:48 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Granny Bear - 02-22-2013, 10:03 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Westside - 02-23-2013, 10:28 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by LWC - 02-23-2013, 10:43 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 12:42 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 12:44 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by toussaints - 02-23-2013, 12:57 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 03:29 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 03:31 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 03:38 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 03:52 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 03:55 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 03:59 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 04:09 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 04:35 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Westside - 02-23-2013, 04:47 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 04:54 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 05:07 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 05:16 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 05:17 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 05:24 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 05:40 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Stardust - 02-23-2013, 05:42 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Westside - 02-23-2013, 05:54 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 06:05 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Stardust - 02-23-2013, 06:22 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 06:29 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-23-2013, 06:35 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-23-2013, 07:10 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 02-23-2013, 07:33 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Fatt Jones - 02-23-2013, 08:22 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by toussaints - 02-24-2013, 09:45 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Fatt Jones - 02-24-2013, 09:50 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by LOOKAYANNER - 02-24-2013, 10:13 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Fatt Jones - 02-24-2013, 10:38 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-24-2013, 11:00 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Warthog - 02-24-2013, 12:22 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by LOOKAYANNER - 02-24-2013, 01:10 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-24-2013, 01:52 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Westside - 02-24-2013, 02:06 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by vundy33 - 02-24-2013, 04:15 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Fatt Jones - 02-24-2013, 04:44 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-24-2013, 07:15 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-24-2013, 08:06 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Stardust - 02-24-2013, 11:09 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-25-2013, 04:05 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-25-2013, 04:08 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-25-2013, 04:20 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-25-2013, 04:33 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Westside - 02-25-2013, 04:43 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 02-25-2013, 08:26 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-26-2013, 08:41 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-26-2013, 04:50 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by vundy33 - 02-26-2013, 07:34 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-26-2013, 10:14 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 02-26-2013, 10:31 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-26-2013, 11:04 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by vundy33 - 02-26-2013, 11:21 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by FBALL - 02-27-2013, 12:12 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 02-27-2013, 10:21 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by LWC - 02-27-2013, 10:37 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Westside - 02-27-2013, 10:54 AM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Cat Daddy - 02-27-2013, 01:38 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Stardust - 02-27-2013, 02:00 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 02-27-2013, 07:39 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-01-2013, 12:29 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-01-2013, 12:36 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-01-2013, 12:41 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-01-2013, 06:57 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-01-2013, 08:29 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-01-2013, 09:25 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 03-01-2013, 10:34 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-01-2013, 10:44 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 12:49 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-02-2013, 12:54 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-02-2013, 01:14 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 01:15 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 01:16 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 01:18 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-02-2013, 01:49 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 01:49 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 01:54 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-02-2013, 01:58 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-02-2013, 02:13 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 03:22 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-02-2013, 03:40 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 05:17 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 05:19 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by TidesHoss32 - 03-02-2013, 06:03 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Observing - 03-02-2013, 06:43 PM
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Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Stardust - 03-02-2013, 07:04 PM
Tubby's fall from northern grace - by Hoot Gibson - 03-02-2013, 07:07 PM
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