[Bazooka Joe]

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#1509-07-2021, 01:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-07-2021, 01:20 PM by The Undisputed Truth.)
(09-07-2021, 12:41 PM)A Tribe Called Quest Wrote: 
(09-07-2021, 12:10 PM)The Undisputed Truth Wrote: 
For a fan-base that hasn't won a State Championship in 40 years and lacks the personnel to stop the Johnson Central running game, you Corbin folks sure are confident. The passive-aggressive conversation pieces are really funny given the circumstances lol.

Johnson Central returns basically the exact same football team from last season. They are huge and outstanding up front. I encourage you to find footage of them on Youtube and then explain to me how your undersized defensive front-seven will attempt to slow the Eagles down.

Corbin looked good against a small, one-dimensional Franklin County team with the help of a little homecooking, congrats lol
From a fan base that has not won when y'all were in the class as Cov Cath and FT Highlands. It' took for them to move out of 4A to 5A for you all start winning state. Don't get me wrong, JC is good, but we don't need some dad or some glory day years (Al Bundy) on here trying to hype JC.
I'm not a Johnson Central fan or parent, and considering I played college football the Al Bundy comparison doesn't really work, though I get the feeling you probably wish that you had experienced the same level of success as Bundy in football. Furthermore, I will hype who I want, when I want. Your permission isn't required.

The truth can be difficult to hear sometimes. Especially when you're a fan of a program that is so desperate to win a state title and be considered relevant again that over half your starters are from other schools lol. Let's also not forget that Corbin is playing 4A football with a 5A enrollment, just as they were playing 3A football with a 4A enrollment a few years ago when they got to back to back title games. Corbin is slated to move to 5A next year or the following year.

I mean, Corbin successfully recruits athletes from surrounding counties every year and because of their enrollment growth they have manipulated the system in order to ensure they are one of the largest schools in their respective class in the final year/years of the last two alignment periods. Yet, no titles.

The Corbin talent pool must be pretty thin if stealing so many players from other places can't get you over the hump, just saying.
(09-07-2021, 12:37 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: 
(09-07-2021, 08:45 AM)Hound05 Wrote: 
(09-07-2021, 08:30 AM)Old School Hound Wrote: 
(09-07-2021, 07:23 AM)Hound05 Wrote: 
Should be:

1) Johnson central.
2/3) Corbin/Lex cath.
4. Boyle
5) Franklin

The rest, I have no clue. But seeing Lincoln co. Play last year and not losing a whole lot of production, I think they can beat anyone in the bottom 5. Still don’t think there’s much separation in the top 4 other than the addition of LC proving they can play, so I guess top 5 now. A lot of people looks at the loses and places a lot of emphasis and opinion on those in the top tier. Boyle lost to a very very good team, probably a finalist team, by few points. Franklin lost to a good Corbin team on the road with a fairly significant player not at 100% in the 2nd half. I will say I’d hate to be in Boyle and Lex caths district with those two solid teams. Boyle will have their hands full. But it just seems like Boyle has just had their number for the past couple years. But with new staff changes, it could be a very tough district. But district 7 won’t be a walk in the park either. I think the past years 2nd-4th we’re almost pretty even. Lincoln gave us a close one at home. And Knox central beat Wayne in the playoffs. This year I don’t think it’s as spread across with Wayne and KC taking a slight step back, but LC taking a step forward. Should be interesting in a couple weeks when districts start to unfold.

I think you are giving your best Lou Holtz impression. You really think Catholic is on par with Corbin ?  Nah.  Catholic defeated Pulaski by 2 points at home. Yes, they beat Cov. Cath but this isn't a dominant Cov. Cath team. It took some late scores, I think,  for Lex Cath to win that one.  I think you are pretty sure your Hounds would drub the Catholics. And JC has played one game and against a terrible opponent. What have they done to deserve #1? Also, they are dealing with the coach's health issues. That can serve as a difficult distraction for young kids. Hopefully, they can fight through that. Let's face it,  Corbin is the top team right now whether we want that designation or not. Honestly, when it all shakes out at the end, its Haddix and Boyle that will probably be looking eye to eye with Corbin and ready to get down and dirty at Kroger.

Having said all that, so many variables come into play during a season; injuries, first and foremost. So, as in politics, the winds of change can blow in quickly in HS football changing the whole landscape. A bad break or two or an unfortunate injury or unseen circumstance could flip a team's season upside down. But, for now, it seems like Corbin has earned the #1 designation, whether we want it or not.
Smile Shhhhhhhhh. Don’t give them the truthful thoughts of mine. Most on here can’t handle it.
I know. Believe me, I get it.  #1 is a scary place to be sometimes.  Remember ,  UK 38-0 ? But true champions wear that #1 moniker with pride and say " Come on, I'll dare you to take it from us."  If you ever listened to Lou Holtz, you would think his teams had no chance against a good opponent. But he really knew better. Lou was a psychologist ; he was the ultimate sandbagger.  If Lou was the Corbin coach he would say, "we really got lucky against Franklin. Talent -wise they are so much better but we got some good breaks and played as well as we possibly could. The chances of us repeating that performance is infinitesimal. They would be huge favorites if we play them again. We are probably not near the top five right now. Hopefully, we can get some more breaks along the way and win a couple more games."  LOL

Some teams wilt under the pressure of great expectations. But those teams are not champions. Champions say, "You're damned right were #1 and we're gonna show you why."  Barring injuries or unforeseen  circumstances,  and I may be wrong, but I see the Redhounds embracing #1  and severely punishing any opponent who doubts them.
(09-07-2021, 12:10 PM)The Undisputed Truth Wrote: 
For a fan-base that hasn't won a State Championship in 40 years and lacks the personnel to stop the Johnson Central running game, you Corbin folks sure are confident. The passive-aggressive conversation pieces are really funny given the circumstances lol.

Johnson Central returns basically the exact same football team from last season. They are huge and outstanding up front. I encourage you to find footage of them on Youtube and then explain to me how your undersized defensive front-seven will attempt to slow the Eagles down.

Corbin looked good against a small, one-dimensional Franklin County team with the help of a little homecooking, congrats lol


I see why you are a "waterboy."
You can't see the forest for the trees


When you get Banned, its not because you ask them to put you in time out lol.

Lol, I don't follow Knox Central, and as a matter of fact, I did request to have my account deleted. You should probably consult an administrator before you get a libel suit slapped on this website you love so dearly. 

You just listed a conversation that proves everything I stated, thanks. While everyone else on here was celebrating a state title after week three, I stood up and told you the truth. That message above clearly illustrates that I am a very effective evaluator of football and know what I'm talking about. It also shows that I have the courage to speak such information in the face of overwhelming ignorance lol.

By the way, I didn't want to hurt your feelings any worse than they already were, but your schematic evaluation of the Corbin/JC game was incredibly weak and uninformed. It reminded me of the type of insight, or lack thereof, that you might find from a casual fan.

I was twice All-State and played D1 football, you're just not on par with me on this issue. Thanks for making my argument for me.

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Bazooka, what was your previous name on here where u said they weren’t gonna win? Cause you have 6 posts.  All on this thread the last 2 days. That’s the fake/shady news.  You can search my post history and see all I’ve written. Also, does your son play?  Jus trying to put 2/2 together here.  The only way I would talk these coaches up the way you have is if I had a son that may get some playin time or I was a hardcore Good ol Boy.  Maybe if I was kin to Cattleman I may say this stuff. I don’t see Corbin faithful backing you up.

Has the defense been better?
NO

Has the offense been better?
NO

Has the team been better, more productive?
NO

Has the team played in December?
NO

Will it be talked about for years to come about how the Good ol boy club took something good and made it worse for the kids and school.
YES

Will somethe kids stay thru another year of this drama or will they go.
GO, and we will see how right I am come July.

Help me out here a little.

Old name was the Undisputed Truth, I asked the administrators on here to delete it after I'd made my point. 

If I did/do have a child playing, what good would it do for me to praise the coaches under an anonymous internet handle? Lol, how would they know who to reward? 

And I've never needed any backup, I'm quite capable of handling this or any other situation all by my lonesome.

There's no need to go line by line addressing your questions, I merely need to point out one thing: Greer has only been the head coach for 2 seasons. Haddix left during a transitional period. Greer hasn't enjoyed the same type of MATURE talent that Haddix did. 

 Now, you can argue all day that Haddix cultivated that talent and you may be right, but he was barely .500 his last season in corbin because the transition had begun after his back to back state championship losses and a move from 3A to 4A. 

Greer's first season saw sophomores bear much of the load as they made up a large part of the nucleus, and last year those same kids were juniors. They needed time to mature and were hampered by a lack of size on the defensive front. If the athletes in the young nucleus had more upperclassmen with size to lean on, they probably would have competed better against JC. Each of these past 2 years they have been a bad match up for us and we caught them twice in a row.

All Greer has done is go 24-2 (I think) in his first 2 seasons while dealing with an undersized offensive/defensive front. It's not the kids fault, there are some good football players that just came through Corbin, but they just weren't big enough to deal with JC. 

It's also not Greer's fault, he has shown time and time again, as recently as when he shut Boyle out 20-0 at Corbin in the semis of 2018 and when we beat Central at their place in the 2017 semis, that he can coach the defensive side of the ball. I mean, Greer was the DC for the entirety of Haddix's run in Corbin and for Dudley's prime at Bell. Do you not recognize the quality he has put on the field for the last 30 years?

Furthermore, if there are key players leaving then I'm not aware of it, and won't hold it against them if they do. I know who will be there for sure, and that is enough for me to be optimistic. 

Sports and politics are similar when it comes to perception. Most people form an opinion without gathering the facts, then only accept information that fits their narrative. Bottom line is that Greer has done an outstanding job and has lost 2 games in 2 years, both of them Region title games against a bigger, badder, more mature opponent. This coming year needs to be our turn to get some payback, we'll see what this season holds. It's high school football and anything can happen.

Does that help you out?

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I forgot there were a couple of covid cancelations that would have been sure wins in 2020, and our young kids lost the opener to Beechwood that same year. So, Greer's record is more like 20-3. My point is still valid.

You are confused on defensive players not being big enough. I've watched smaller and quicker players shut the running game down too many times to count. Corbin has been outcoached in the big games

Agree to disagree, smaller players can be effective against larger ones when the bigger kids aren't agile, aggressive, well-coached, etc. JC's kids are all of those things, year after year.
 
The laws of probability will always favor the bigger athlete in such situations where all other factors all equal.

If size didn't matter, then NCAA and NFL rosters would recruit and draft differently.

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LOL! You're the man (or woman) Bull Got Out!

Is he? Lol, you guys know nothing about football.