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Note To President Trump
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(03-12-2021, 01:39 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-12-2021, 01:15 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: My guess is vector, under the terms of his disability retirement, does in fact receive SSI payments from the government. Those will go on until he actually reaches retirement age and then said payments will automatically roll over into regular SS benefits.

As with anything associated with the US government, if one gets some form of personal funding there will be compliance actions attached to those payments. That, like the dirge of a speech on CV-19 Biden delivered last night, is a form of control; and let's face it. If Dems are about anything they are about control.

Social Security payments used to be an earned entitlement based on how much one paid into the fund. Those payments are therefore rightly referred as an 'entitlement.'    In the same way the worker is entitled to his paycheck each week. faithful Americans who worked and made their families self sufficient social units across their entire working lifetimes, also contributed the taxes on which this nation was built. That was the arrangement-- we contribute money while we work and Uncle Sam reciprocates when we are old and incapable of working, by supplementing our financial situation with payments drawn out of the SS fund that our taxes created.

But people who do not/did not work across their lives and have not contributed to Social Security, still get paid. And to confuse the situation Dems wrongly refer to those payments as entitlements. They are not entitlements. Call them gifts, awards, or whatever, but they are welfare based on need without benefit of contribution. IN FACT, it is my expectation that many of those who do not work but are nonetheless financed by Dems, are more securely entrenched in their entitlement status than the elderly who actually worked their whole lives. As with everything else they like, by relabeling welfare as being entitlements, things become a little hazy and thus easier to defend. Because after all, "that's who we are."

What I said was the elderly have already done their part and then some. Working in bad conditions, breathing contaminated air and exposing themselves to myriad threats shortened many a life. But I understand some older folks don't live on the edge, and may be invested or otherwise comfortably healed still having substantial incomes. So does the pay your fair share apply for everybody, or just those without much of a voice? Given our present climate those more wealthy seniors should be taxed, I agree. So what's fair? Bracket the federal income tax collected from old folks. Their medical costs are over the moon, and yet they are expected to pay for the free ride of black people in Kentucky according to our governor. Pension amounts (if one is lucky enough to have one) are not adjusted for inflation. Vehicles for example, cost twice the amount they did at the time of my retirement. Food, utilities, insurance, property taxes, absolutely everything including paper towels has nearly doubled. It is immoral for the US Congress and State Congresses to continue to slam old people the way they do for taxes. Therefore. Set up the taxation brackets for the aged similar to the stimulus brackets. Limit taxes for two people who make up to 150 thousand; and progressively open the rate up for those who make more.

Let's honor those who are poor. But let's not extort what little money seniors have in order to do so. If we had taken .9 of the 1.9 trillion dollar liberal bail-out wish list, and supplemented SS and SSI and whatever else libs use to bribe people, it would have served the US far better, and for far longer.
Well first TRT you guessed WRONG i do not receive SSI 
Second people who get SSI are some of the poorest in the country it's people who have not worked enough or long enough to get SS benefits are you still with me you can't get SS unless you payed into it simple
SS To get SS they take your best 35 years of earnings to calculate your benefits and NO i don't get SSI or SS as of now will never get SSI earned too much and too many assets
I am close to retirement age which is 62 how old was you when you got your disability ?
And SS is NOT a 'entitlement'  but if you live a long time you will get more than you recieve
Now SSI is a  "entitlement"  you receive something without paying into it but on the other hand  are you going to let them starve?
I agree do away with taxing SS benefits stupid thing i have seen 
Call Hal Rogers and tell him to get behind the social security 2100 act i bet he will laugh at you don't even bother with Mitch or Paul they don't even believe in SS
The last Ky governor raised taxes on pensions and ira distributions it was any thing over $41,000 now it's $31,000 why?





So in making yet another errant and detached post you demonstrate your own failings in reading comprehension wben you try and fail to insult my own intellect? Hilarious. I would not want to call somebody stupid who obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. But if you're going to tread that ground in my case, then the kid gloves are off. SSI payments for example, can go to dependent minor children of retired people and other such applications. They have in that case, nothing at all to do with level of income. But in keeping with concepts for the simple, some women in this country never work a day of their lives. When their husbands retire, and after they themselves reach the age of 65, they still get a check for 1/2 the amount their husbands get. From Social Security.

You're 100% wrong about what constitutes an entitlement. Free money is welfare, end of story. Entitlements are merit based payouts to those who contribute something to the equation. And lastly, if little Andy lowered the the threshold for taxable income on IRA's from 41 thousand down to 31 thousand, that means he increased the tax burden on those people who earn between 41 and 31 thousand. So if the cited source below doesn't spell it out sufficiently enough for you... you're a man of finance, get your CPA to explain it to you. Meanwhile in using that itchy Google finger of yours, you're wasting your time in trying to redefine what I know to be the truth. But do continue surfing and sourcing that liberal cesspool of your favor.

MARKETWATCH---
“Entitlement” often refers to Social Security and Medicare, but critics [liberals relabeling the term in the name of social justice] argue that’s the wrong way to describe it. Many Americans take to social platforms saying they’ve paid into the system their entire careers, and thus, the benefit they will receive belongs to them. And they’re right — which is a big part of the reason they’re called entitlements, experts say, because recipients are indeed entitled to them.
See: Social Security’s not keeping up with inflation — here’s what that means for you

The term entitlement has developed a negative connotation, said Nancy Altman, president of Social Security Works, which advocates for expanding the program. “Focus groups have found when you ask people to name entitlements, they’ll focus on welfare, and when they’re told Social Security [is an entitlement program], they get angry because of course Social Security is an earned benefit,” she said. The idea of being “entitled” has over time become associated with getting something one doesn’t deserve.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-o...2020-02-04
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Messages In This Thread
Note To President Trump - by TheRealThing - 07-10-2020, 08:35 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by vector#1 - 03-11-2021, 02:28 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-11-2021, 07:18 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by vector#1 - 03-11-2021, 07:25 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-11-2021, 07:40 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by vector#1 - 03-11-2021, 08:38 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-11-2021, 09:04 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-12-2021, 01:15 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2021, 01:29 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by vector#1 - 03-12-2021, 01:39 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-12-2021, 05:03 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-12-2021, 05:17 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2021, 05:59 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-12-2021, 06:17 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by Hoot Gibson - 03-12-2021, 06:54 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2021, 01:24 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by Cardfan1 - 03-13-2021, 06:16 PM
RE: Note To President Trump - by TheRealThing - 03-13-2021, 11:06 PM

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