[Hound05]

The momentum swing was a big turning point. LCC has weapons and can play. This kind of reminded me of some of the old Ashland and JC games. I was a little off on my prediction. I knew LCC had the pieces. From my seat, it appears in the 4th quarter, LCC had some issues getting the play in and getting set, causing the, to use up their timeouts on the last scoring drive, which ultimately sealed their fate. If they had a couple timeouts…the last drive could have been way different for them. I thought it was a great game overall, there were a couple holds missed on LCC’s final scoring drive, but make no mistake, none of this is a slight to LCC..I was impressed.

Don’t know who was listening to the stream. But those holding calls must have been pretty bad. You could hear people in the booth screaming it. The announcer said it was right in front of the white hat and he bear hugged him. I get there is holding on every play. But if it was indeed that, and it definitely effected the play. You got to throw it. 

Did little get hurt? The announcer said he was on the sideline for the last 3 plays.

JET CLEAR YOU INBOX. I tried to send you a message

Honestly, I think he was in…but I was just wrapped up in being a fan..lol. The holds were clear as day…no way they should have not been called…it definitely did effect the plays. Either way, the playoffs should be interesting…

Ahh I don’t blame y. I would too with a great game like that. But yes!!! Playoffs will definitely be interesting. I don’t think anyone from our district will make any noise. Wayne would have the best shot I guess. But I started saying it aroind week 3. The normal top teams aren’t as good this year as they normally are. And the mid tier teams are a little better than they normally are. Luckily, it’s not just a boyle, or a Corbin, or JC. It’s ALL of them. IMO anyways. I’m assuming your district is set as is ours.

[Hoot Gibson]

Did LCC run it much? Not QB scramble. But a designed run play? The reason I ask is someone made a comment about them finally running it, or something like that?

I think that the person who made the comment was referring to the fullback or a particular running back finally running the ball. I did not hear the stats, but I think that both Little and Matthews ran the ball well. I didn't think that JC got enough pressure on Little because LCC sent out a lot of receivers and Little rolled rather than getting chased out of the pocket. If Little sees an opening, then he takes off. He is quick, fast, and elusive - plus he has a strong arm. I expected that JC would be chasing Little around the backfield tonight but that did not happen very often. He sees the field well and makes good decisions.

As a high school quarterback, Little impressed me more than any quarterback that JC has played, including the Ironton quarterback who is headed to the U. of Cincinnati. It would be interesting to watch the game that LCC lost to Hazard 52-50. LCC has scored and given up a lot of points this season, but it is hard to understand giving up 52 points to Hazard. They were also shutout 35-0 by a very mediocre team from Tennessee in their second game of the season.

[Running wild 14]

Corbin will beat LCC by 50 if they play.  Mark it down.  Wayne County will beat LCC by 3 TDs.  LCC can handle Wayne or Knox.  North Laurel is 5A.

Uh Knox lost to Harlan Co. Lol Not saying that they are a bad team or they can’t win but saying that LCC can’t handle them is a bit of a stretch.

[Hoot Gibson]

A 1-point loss to North Laurel  and a 1-point win at home against Letcher leads one to believe JC has a very low probability of winning at Corbin, Lex Cath or Boyle.

One would be mistaken to draw that conclusion. Letcher County Central is very good offensively, with a very quick and talented quarterback who is as much a threat to run as he is to pass - not unlike Simon Kenton. Like Simon Kenton, if their offense plays well, LCC can make your defense look worse than it is. Corbin was lucky to escape the game with Simon Kenton with a win. Johnson Central was lucky to win tonight. They were one big play or mistake away from a loss.

I can kind of see the comparison. But not actual team wise. SK has beaten some good teams. LCC lost to an avg at best hazard team who pikeville just took to the woodshed. And a TN team who is very avg. 

but I will agree with you in a way. Certain teams matchup better and worse than another team would. Like a good pass offense vs an avg pass defense. You see it early in the year a lot, and like this, sometimes in district play. Plus teams respond to others differently too. I thought for a long time that lex cath gets a little more motivated against boyle than they would against Scott. Or similar. Lincoln county played us good for the past 2 seasons. But we’d kill a team that beat them. But looking back at it now, an avg team played us tight, we thought it was just one of those games, and we
overestimated ourselves, and didnt know until we played a great team, of just how much we did.

I think that everybody tends to overestimate teams that beat the teams that they support or play them closer than people expected. Johnson Central easily beat Crone and Simon Kenton in his freshman and sophomore years. SK had good size and looked like a decent team but they just didn't match-up very well against JC. The same was true when JC played Lexington Catholic a couple of games a few years ago. JC destroyed a Central team that later won a state title over a Belfry team that had beaten JC.

Coach Peck said that Letcher County, with Jonah Little, would be a tough opponent, but he finds nice things to say about every opponent.   I think that one thing that Letcher County had in its favor is that they had played Johnson Central six times in the past three years. Tonight was the first time that LCC has stayed close to JC, but the two teams are very familiar with each other's system.

[Hound05]

Letcher won’t have an easy game round 1. North Laurel will be coming in who already beat JC earlier this year.

North laurel?

I think you might have your wires crossed North Laurel is 5A. LCC is 4

But you are correct. They won’t have an easy game. But they won’t be playing Corbin either. Probably Knox central I think without looking at it

Never mind. Got confused there. Thought NL was in with Corbin and Wayne but they are in with Pulaski in 5A. Yes Knox beat Lincoln tonight 30-28. Lincoln goes to JC and Knox goes to Letcher. Most likely 2nd round will be Letcher at Corbin and Wayne at JC

Only thing I know about Knox is they lost to Harlan co which is crazy. Harlan co looked awful against Letcher a couple weeks ago.

To be honest, That’s all you really need to know. No disrespect, but they are below avg. they have one kid. But now, that kid can beat teams if you let him. They also have a good coach. LCC shouldn’t have too many problems with them. Especially passing. I cant remember how many yards passing we had on them just at the half. LCC should be able to take advantage of that weakness. Now offensively, theyve
got partin. Hard to bring down. But you about know who it’s going to every play. They also had another kid who was a good looking athlete. Kind of tall fast and could catch!! I thought they should have used him a little more. But who am I?! Hah

[Blue dawg]

A 1-point loss to North Laurel  and a 1-point win at home against Letcher leads one to believe JC has a very low probability of winning at Corbin, Lex Cath or Boyle.

If I had the time on my hands I’d scroll back to last November and see what your probability of jc winning at Corbin was I remember it was on the low side. To be the man you must beat the man not saying it won’t happen this year though.

[Old School Hound]

A 1-point loss to North Laurel  and a 1-point win at home against Letcher leads one to believe JC has a very low probability of winning at Corbin, Lex Cath or Boyle.

If I had the time on my hands I’d scroll back to last November and see what your probability of jc winning at Corbin was I remember it was on the low side. To be the man you must beat the man not saying it won’t happen this year though.

Corbin was having issues putting away lesser opponents the second half of last season. This season they are creaming those opponents.  This Corbin team is better than last season's and it appears this JC, while still very good, may be just a notch below last season's.

[Hound05]

A 1-point loss to North Laurel  and a 1-point win at home against Letcher leads one to believe JC has a very low probability of winning at Corbin, Lex Cath or Boyle.

One would be mistaken to draw that conclusion. Letcher County Central is very good offensively, with a very quick and talented quarterback who is as much a threat to run as he is to pass - not unlike Simon Kenton. Like Simon Kenton, if their offense plays well, LCC can make your defense look worse than it is. Corbin was lucky to escape the game with Simon Kenton with a win. Johnson Central was lucky to win tonight. They were one big play or mistake away from a loss.

I can kind of see the comparison. But not actual team wise. SK has beaten some good teams. LCC lost to an avg at best hazard team who pikeville just took to the woodshed. And a TN team who is very avg. 

but I will agree with you in a way. Certain teams matchup better and worse than another team would. Like a good pass offense vs an avg pass defense. You see it early in the year a lot, and like this, sometimes in district play. Plus teams respond to others differently too. I thought for a long time that lex cath gets a little more motivated against boyle than they would against Scott. Or similar. Lincoln county played us good for the past 2 seasons. But we’d kill a team that beat them. But looking back at it now, an avg team played us tight, we thought it was just one of those games, and we
overestimated ourselves, and didnt know until we played a great team, of just how much we did.

I think that everybody tends to overestimate teams that beat the teams that they support or play them closer than people expected. Johnson Central easily beat Crone and Simon Kenton in his freshman and sophomore years. SK had good size and looked like a decent team but they just didn't match-up very well against JC. The same was true when JC played Lexington Catholic a couple of games a few years ago. JC destroyed a Central team that later won a state title over a Belfry team that had beaten JC.

Coach Peck said that Letcher County, with Jonah Little, would be a tough opponent, but he finds nice things to say about every opponent.   I think that one thing that Letcher County had in its favor is that they had played Johnson Central six times in the past three years. Tonight was the first time that LCC has stayed close to JC, but the two teams are very familiar with each other's system.

Matchups are key. I think you can still get a decent picture from similar teams. A lot of things come into play with style of play vs another team(s). I’m not gonna lie because it’s on black and white, looking back,
as fans we should have seen red flags against some of our lesser opponents the past couple years. But we chose to ignore them. I think maybe some red flags might be raised for JC after this game, particularly with Boyle, Lex, and Corbin. 3 teams teams that can pass With a great running QB, just like it should of with the rushing yardage we gave up last year to Lincoln. But that’s why they play the game. Kids are as unpredictable as Ky weather.

[Hound05]

A 1-point loss to North Laurel  and a 1-point win at home against Letcher leads one to believe JC has a very low probability of winning at Corbin, Lex Cath or Boyle.

If I had the time on my hands I’d scroll back to last November and see what your probability of jc winning at Corbin was I remember it was on the low side. To be the man you must beat the man not saying it won’t happen this year though.

Corbin was having issues putting away lesser opponents the second half of last season. This season they are creaming those opponents.  This Corbin team is better than last season's and it appears this JC, while still very good, may be just a notch below last season's.

The fact of a very weak schedule, to couple with the inter turmoils they had, with us just ignoring the warning signs and tbinkng “ahh they’ll get it together when they play a good team” contributed to that opinion last year. I went into this season making sure I wouldn’t forget what we ignored, but this year those signs aren’t really there. Given the results of some common opponents, opponents opponents. There’s a reason they include it in RPI. It’s hard to get a good picture of Johnson central with some of their out of state games. But with the few games with in state opponents give a little idea. I think JC might have overlooked LCC because of past results some. Every team does it. We are human,
kids don’t play the same every game. But these are kids, never know which kid is gonna show up and which aren’t. I guess it’s why they play the game.

[Granny Bear]

Well listening to this game, and getting fairly regular updates, it sounded like a barn burner!!

Congratulations to the Golden Eagles!!

[pjdoug]

I knew this game would be closer than what most predicted but I didn’t expect it to be that close. 

Sounds like Letcher had plenty of chances to win this one.

A win is a win…. I guess. But what does this say about JC? Did they potentially over look Letcher?

I don’t think they looked over Letcher I just think people didn’t realize how good that Letcher OLine is. Letcher had a slow start to season because of how manny freshman and sophomores they start especially on defense but this team has gotten better and better all season. What I loved the most about this game is JC really focused on shutting down Little and a bunch of the young cougars kids played really well. Letcher should be really good next couple of years.

I like to talk trash about Letcher County, but you can tell by my predictions. that I know they have a good team.

[Hoot Gibson]

A 1-point loss to North Laurel  and a 1-point win at home against Letcher leads one to believe JC has a very low probability of winning at Corbin, Lex Cath or Boyle.

One would be mistaken to draw that conclusion. Letcher County Central is very good offensively, with a very quick and talented quarterback who is as much a threat to run as he is to pass - not unlike Simon Kenton. Like Simon Kenton, if their offense plays well, LCC can make your defense look worse than it is. Corbin was lucky to escape the game with Simon Kenton with a win. Johnson Central was lucky to win tonight. They were one big play or mistake away from a loss.

I can kind of see the comparison. But not actual team wise. SK has beaten some good teams. LCC lost to an avg at best hazard team who pikeville just took to the woodshed. And a TN team who is very avg. 

but I will agree with you in a way. Certain teams matchup better and worse than another team would. Like a good pass offense vs an avg pass defense. You see it early in the year a lot, and like this, sometimes in district play. Plus teams respond to others differently too. I thought for a long time that lex cath gets a little more motivated against boyle than they would against Scott. Or similar. Lincoln county played us good for the past 2 seasons. But we’d kill a team that beat them. But looking back at it now, an avg team played us tight, we thought it was just one of those games, and we
overestimated ourselves, and didnt know until we played a great team, of just how much we did.

I think that everybody tends to overestimate teams that beat the teams that they support or play them closer than people expected. Johnson Central easily beat Crone and Simon Kenton in his freshman and sophomore years. SK had good size and looked like a decent team but they just didn't match-up very well against JC. The same was true when JC played Lexington Catholic a couple of games a few years ago. JC destroyed a Central team that later won a state title over a Belfry team that had beaten JC.

Coach Peck said that Letcher County, with Jonah Little, would be a tough opponent, but he finds nice things to say about every opponent.   I think that one thing that Letcher County had in its favor is that they had played Johnson Central six times in the past three years. Tonight was the first time that LCC has stayed close to JC, but the two teams are very familiar with each other's system.

Matchups are key. I think you can still get a decent picture from similar teams. A lot of things come into play with style of play vs another team(s). I’m not gonna lie because it’s on black and white, looking back,
as fans we should have seen red flags against some of our lesser opponents the past couple years. But we chose to ignore them. I think maybe some red flags might be raised for JC after this game, particularly with Boyle, Lex, and Corbin. 3 teams teams that can pass With a great running QB, just like it should of with the rushing yardage we gave up last year to Lincoln. But that’s why they play the game. Kids are as unpredictable as Ky weather.

Ironton's skill players are as good as any that JC will face in the playoffs. Despite losing the game to Ironton, I thought that JC's defense played exceptionally well in that game and that what JC was lacking was OL experience that would come during the season. That is what led me to underestimate LCC's chances of winning last night. I think the biggest thing that hurt JC last night was the special teams, which had been playing great. If the teams meet again, you can bet that JC will be more wary of kicking and punting the ball where it can be fielded with space to run.

I don't know if the special team problems were the result of a flawed game plan or poor execution, but one of the coaches was very animated with a JC player on the kick-off that LCC returned for a touchdown. I am guessing that he was singling out the kicker but I could be wrong. JC has had an edge with its kicking game for most of the season but LCC turned the tables on them last night - not with distance, but with the placement of punts and kick-offs. LCC seemed to be aiming for a specific area of the field on every kick-off and JC was lucky that they did not have more turnovers. Those are lessons that can be learned from last night and there is plenty of time to address the problems to prepare better for teams like Corbin, Lexington Catholic, and Boyle County.

I have always said that Johnson Central would benefit from a stronger district schedule. Hopefully, LCC will remain in JC's district and, if not, JC will be able to keep them on the schedule. I think both teams will benefit from the game last night. JC will lose some good players for next season but like LCC, JC is blessed with a wealth of young talent.

[Running wild 14]

One would be mistaken to draw that conclusion. Letcher County Central is very good offensively, with a very quick and talented quarterback who is as much a threat to run as he is to pass - not unlike Simon Kenton. Like Simon Kenton, if their offense plays well, LCC can make your defense look worse than it is. Corbin was lucky to escape the game with Simon Kenton with a win. Johnson Central was lucky to win tonight. They were one big play or mistake away from a loss.

I can kind of see the comparison. But not actual team wise. SK has beaten some good teams. LCC lost to an avg at best hazard team who pikeville just took to the woodshed. And a TN team who is very avg. 

but I will agree with you in a way. Certain teams matchup better and worse than another team would. Like a good pass offense vs an avg pass defense. You see it early in the year a lot, and like this, sometimes in district play. Plus teams respond to others differently too. I thought for a long time that lex cath gets a little more motivated against boyle than they would against Scott. Or similar. Lincoln county played us good for the past 2 seasons. But we’d kill a team that beat them. But looking back at it now, an avg team played us tight, we thought it was just one of those games, and we
overestimated ourselves, and didnt know until we played a great team, of just how much we did.

I think that everybody tends to overestimate teams that beat the teams that they support or play them closer than people expected. Johnson Central easily beat Crone and Simon Kenton in his freshman and sophomore years. SK had good size and looked like a decent team but they just didn't match-up very well against JC. The same was true when JC played Lexington Catholic a couple of games a few years ago. JC destroyed a Central team that later won a state title over a Belfry team that had beaten JC.

Coach Peck said that Letcher County, with Jonah Little, would be a tough opponent, but he finds nice things to say about every opponent.   I think that one thing that Letcher County had in its favor is that they had played Johnson Central six times in the past three years. Tonight was the first time that LCC has stayed close to JC, but the two teams are very familiar with each other's system.

Matchups are key. I think you can still get a decent picture from similar teams. A lot of things come into play with style of play vs another team(s). I’m not gonna lie because it’s on black and white, looking back,
as fans we should have seen red flags against some of our lesser opponents the past couple years. But we chose to ignore them. I think maybe some red flags might be raised for JC after this game, particularly with Boyle, Lex, and Corbin. 3 teams teams that can pass With a great running QB, just like it should of with the rushing yardage we gave up last year to Lincoln. But that’s why they play the game. Kids are as unpredictable as Ky weather.

Ironton's skill players are as good as any that JC will face in the playoffs. Despite losing the game to Ironton, I thought that JC's defense played exceptionally well in that game and that what JC was lacking was OL experience that would come during the season. That is what led me to underestimate LCC's chances of winning last night. I think the biggest thing that hurt JC last night was the special teams, which had been playing great. If the teams meet again, you can bet that JC will be more wary of kicking and punting the ball where it can be fielded with space to run.

I don't know if the special team problems were the result of a flawed game plan or poor execution, but one of the coaches was very animated with a JC player on the kick-off that LCC returned for a touchdown. I am guessing that he was singling out the kicker but I could be wrong. JC has had an edge with its kicking game for most of the season but LCC turned the tables on them last night - not with distance, but with the placement of punts and kick-offs. LCC seemed to be aiming for a specific area of the field on every kick-off and JC was lucky that they did not have more turnovers. Those are lessons that can be learned from last night and there is plenty of time to address the problems to prepare better for teams like Corbin, Lexington Catholic, and Boyle County.

I have always said that Johnson Central would benefit from a stronger district schedule. Hopefully, LCC will remain in JC's district and, if not, JC will be able to keep them on the schedule. I think both teams will benefit from the game last night. JC will lose some good players for next season but like LCC, JC is blessed with a wealth of young talent.

I have told people all season That Letchers Oline is the real deal. I thought the biggest change In the game last night was Letcher finally had a competitive front to go against a team like JC. I haven’t seen total stats yet but would be surprised if Letcher didn’t have 200 yards rushing.I highly doubt these teams will be in same district after this year. When last realignment was done Johnson had over 1,000 students and Letcher had 860. I was told by a school board member that Letcher only has 750 students right now. Letcher has a real shot of moving down to 3A and Johnson looks to moving back up to 5A just going off last realignment numbers. I still can’t understand how Ashland has 300 more student than LCC but is a class below Letcher.

[Hound05]

        



I have told people all season That Letchers Oline is the real deal. I thought the biggest change In the game last night was Letcher finally had a competitive front to go against a team like JC. I haven’t seen total stats yet but would be surprised if Letcher didn’t have 200 yards rushing.I highly doubt these teams will be in same district after this year. When last realignment was done Johnson had over 1,000 students and Letcher had 860. I was told by a school board member that Letcher only has 750 students right now. Letcher has a real shot of moving down to 3A and Johnson looks to moving back up to 5A just going off last realignment numbers. I still can’t understand how Ashland has 300 more student than LCC but is a class below Letcher.

I don’t recall seeing Ashland’s name when i was looking on the KHSAA’s appeal page. Or whatever it’s called when schools
submit to play up or down or move districts. But that is odd. There might be several changes coming up with some
big teams