[RAM-A-DEVIL]

high school referees what can you do about it? not this particular game but we've been screwed more at home than anywhere. the first Paintsville game it was what the refs let go that bothered me not the actual in game penalties. Paintsville is used to playing in an environment where they let things go. Raceland is used to playing in a controlled environment. hence that's why Paintsville fans go nuts over the refs when they play at Raceland. they called a lot of personal fouls and un sportsman likes against them. up there they let that stuff go. everybody from Raceland new that in the regional final that if we got refs who controlled the emotional part of the game that we would win. as for the game Friday Im sure they probably missed a call or two on us. but I didn't see anything egregious called on Pikeville. the false starts were definitely there. they could have called more

[PHSForever]

high school referees what can you do about it? not this particular game but we've been screwed more at home than anywhere. the first Paintsville game it was what the refs let go that bothered me not the actual in game penalties. Paintsville is used to playing in an environment where they let things go. Raceland is used to playing in a controlled environment. hence that's why Paintsville fans go nuts over the refs when they play at Raceland. they called a lot of personal fouls and un sportsman likes against them. up there they let that stuff go. everybody from Raceland new that in the regional final that if we got refs who controlled the emotional part of the game that we would win. as for the game Friday Im sure they probably missed a call or two on us. but I didn't see anything egregious called on Pikeville. the false starts were definitely there. they could have called more

But this crew was a mix that according to someone had never worked together before AND were not supposed to be from the area. So that excuse is out the window. They want to control it? Fine, control it both ways. No way at all that there were not some holding, etc to be called on the Raceland plays. I know for a fact I saw two or three during those “big runs Pikeville had no answer for”. Still have to step up and execute, but it’s hard to do when you get behind the chains on every freaking series and thenother team never does. I’ve not seen the replay yet on the personal foul on that punt. Initial reaction was I did not see him signal fair catch and I thought our player got him same time ball hit his hands. I could be wrong, and will gladly admit if I am. But that was HUGE, because the ball ended up I think down near the 5?

[RAMDAD50]

I don’t understand the complaints about the penalties...I guess I would need to see a break down of what was called.If Pikeville had two TD’s called Back for holding I would understand but they didn’t.Fals start and illegal procedure are pretty simple calls and those could’ve been called more then they were so I say let it go and don’t mess up what these boys did me on the field last Friday night.We didn’t pay off the refs in Hubba Bubba ....I tried but they wouldn’t take it!!

[anotherfootballnut]

But this crew was a mix that according to someone had never worked together before AND were not supposed to be from the area. So that excuse is out the window. They want to control it? Fine, control it both ways. No way at all that there were not some holding, etc to be called on the Raceland plays. I know for a fact I saw two or three during those “big runs Pikeville had no answer for”. Still have to step up and execute, but it’s hard to do when you get behind the chains on every freaking series and thenother team never does. I’ve not seen the replay yet on the personal foul on that punt. Initial reaction was I did not see him signal fair catch and I thought our player got him same time ball hit his hands. I could be wrong, and will gladly admit if I am. But that was HUGE, because the ball ended up I think down near the 5?

So your saying the officials were from the area ?

[PHSForever]

So your saying the officials were from the area ?

I misread what you typed. Thought you said y’all knew refs would control, meaning refs you were familiar with. My bad.

[Ram1998]

But this crew was a mix that according to someone had never worked together before AND were not supposed to be from the area. So that excuse is out the window. They want to control it? Fine, control it both ways. No way at all that there were not some holding, etc to be called on the Raceland plays. I know for a fact I saw two or three during those “big runs Pikeville had no answer for”. Still have to step up and execute, but it’s hard to do when you get behind the chains on every freaking series and thenother team never does. I’ve not seen the replay yet on the personal foul on that punt. Initial reaction was I did not see him signal fair catch and I thought our player got him same time ball hit his hands. I could be wrong, and will gladly admit if I am. But that was HUGE, because the ball ended up I think down near the 5?

It hit pikeville player in the helmet never even hit the Raceland receiver. I was under the impression you have to have a buffer zone to allow a catch I could be wrong.

[PHSForever]

It hit pikeville player in the helmet never even hit the Raceland receiver. I was under the impression you have to have a buffer zone to allow a catch I could be wrong.

The hit WAS a half step too early. He was not yet a runner. Ball hit Raceland players shoulder pads it appeared. But, I looked at it and it WAS early. Legit penalty. Waiting to review the other ones.

[anotherfootballnut]

But this crew was a mix that according to someone had never worked together before AND were not supposed to be from the area. So that excuse is out the window. They want to control it? Fine, control it both ways. No way at all that there were not some holding, etc to be called on the Raceland plays. I know for a fact I saw two or three during those “big runs Pikeville had no answer for”. Still have to step up and execute, but it’s hard to do when you get behind the chains on every freaking series and thenother team never does. I’ve not seen the replay yet on the personal foul on that punt. Initial reaction was I did not see him signal fair catch and I thought our player got him same time ball hit his hands. I could be wrong, and will gladly admit if I am. But that was HUGE, because the ball ended up I think down near the 5?

All crews are mixed in the playoffs they go from a 5 man crew to 7 your not making sense

[scrappy coco]

what a bout the train horn that kept blowing while pikeville had ball in 4 th quarter during 25 second play clock running?
i heard PA guy come on and ask twice to do not blow horn during the play.
just curious how yall feel about that. been to pikeville and they do it also. so maybe thats why the reprecussions. anyways was a great game to watch will be in LEX friday. good luck AMS

[RAMDAD50]

Just like a guy from west weed .....trying to stir crap....go lay down scrappy

[Willie Turnover]

Unless something has changed last Friday there were 12 games in the state. 6 of those games were done by a mixed crew that will also call a state championship game. And 6 games were called by a highly evaluated regular season crew.


That's the way it was a few years back.

[PHSForever]

All crews are mixed in the playoffs they go from a 5 man crew to 7 your not making sense

Re-read it. I misread the first time and thought you said the refs would control it, implying you all knew the refs. I didn’t say anything about the mix other than referencing what I MISREAD the first time and apologized for the confusion.

[anotherfootballnut]

Ok good luck to the panthers in the future and good luck to you on finding some missed calls on Raceland , moving on

[Redneck]

high school referees what can you do about it? not this particular game but we've been screwed more at home than anywhere. the first Paintsville game it was what the refs let go that bothered me not the actual in game penalties. Paintsville is used to playing in an environment where they let things go. Raceland is used to playing in a controlled environment. hence that's why Paintsville fans go nuts over the refs when they play at Raceland. they called a lot of personal fouls and un sportsman likes against them. up there they let that stuff go. everybody from Raceland new that in the regional final that if we got refs who controlled the emotional part of the game that we would win. as for the game Friday Im sure they probably missed a call or two on us. but I didn't see anything egregious called on Pikeville. the false starts were definitely there. they could have called more

Negative ghost rider. Paintsville had more penalty yards in every game at Raceland and at home, and we still won 5 out of the last six, and some of you blamed the refs each time. I don't blame the refs. I didn't blame the refs two weeks ago. Raceland came out and punched us in the mouth the first half, that's what beat us. You take away a few very uncharacteristic mistakes on defense, Paintsville wins and you would have been blaming the refs yet again.

Regardless of all that nonsense, Raceland has turned it on at the right time and this Tiger fan will be cheering y'all on against Beechwood. Good Luck. Bring that title back.

[RAM-A-DEVIL]

Bottom line is when we win all credit to us. When we lose.....we get cheated. Pretty simple if you ask me.

[PHSForever]

Ok good luck to the panthers in the future and good luck to you on finding some missed calls on Raceland , moving on

Plenty of missed calls. Good luck avoiding a running clock this week.

[PHSForever]

Bottom line is when we win all credit to us. When we lose.....we get cheated. Pretty simple if you ask me.

Yep. That’s the way a couple of y’all make it sound every game. Lol

[Patriot1]

Ok good luck to the panthers in the future and good luck to you on finding some missed calls on Raceland , moving on

Well if you think they weren’t no miss calls on your team then you didn’t watch the same game I did and two more times on hudl since then and one holding call that #71 from Pikeville ran over a Raceland player they called holding on him which was ridiculous and you must be really one side. Now I have said multiple times on here but you keep adding comments that are not true. Racelands players deserve the credit, but if Pikeville would have excuted alittle better then things might have been different outcome but get off the inaccurate comments Raceland won and they deserve it. One more time penalties did not beat Pikeville. Raceland won and I hope they win again in the championship game. Good luck to the Rams and I still love the PIKEVILLE Panthers

[PHSForever]

How about that blatant late hit by the Raceland player after #33 intercepted that pass in the first half? Drilled #2 for us well after the play was over. 3 refs with eyeballs on it and no flag anywhere lol. That was blatant headhunting. That holding call Patriot references is another one that was ridiculous, BUT I’ve seen it a million times, some refs think blocking someone to the ground is holding and call it every time. Block in the back on us on the punt returns was a good call both times, and so was the hit on the punt returner for Raceland when we hit him and he didn’t catch the ball yet. Glad no injury on that, scarier on the replay. No problem with those at all.

Whole point of the debating is that you all (Ram fans) are acting like an 8 or 9 to zero penalty difference had no impact on the game. I count at least two potential TDS or FG attempts from very close yardage at a minimum that were directly affected by calls in the first half alone.

[Orange Blaze]

The zero penalties stat is very interesting and honestly I don't think I've ever seen a team go an entire game without receiving a single penalty at any level of football. I think there probably were some things that were missed because it just doesn't seem possible that a team could possibly play a 100% clean game. Could some penalties impacted the game? Possibly but we can never know for sure. But let's not let that tarnish what was possibly the greatest game that was played in single A this year. Also, let's not forget the level of sportsmanship that was displayed between the players. I think that it speaks volumes for both programs that the kids just went out and left it on the field while having respect for the other guy lined up on the other side.

[Patriot1]

The zero penalties stat is very interesting and honestly I don't think I've ever seen a team go an entire game without receiving a single penalty at any level of football. I think there probably were some things that were missed because it just doesn't seem possible that a team could possibly play a 100% clean game. Could some penalties impacted the game? Possibly but we can never know for sure. But let's not let that tarnish what was possibly the greatest game that was played in single A this year. Also, let's not forget the level of sportsmanship that was displayed between the players. I think that it speaks volumes for both programs that the kids just went out and left it on the field while having respect for the other guy lined up on the other side.

I agree with you totally, but when some of the posters post stuff that isn’t true that bothers me. These young men played a great game and I guess we old folks should leave at that but to lie is not the way it should be. When Raceland fans were out there talking to our kids that was the way to handle it with class and I don’t mean any disrespect to anyone. Most of these posters seem to me to be first class as you are and I have high respect for Raceland posters.

[Blue_Bird96]

what a bout the train horn that kept blowing while pikeville had ball in 4 th quarter during 25 second play clock running?
i heard PA guy come on and ask twice to do not blow horn during the play.
just curious how yall feel about that. been to pikeville and they do it also. so maybe thats why the reprecussions. anyways was a great game to watch will be in LEX friday. good luck AMS

The train horn did bring up an interesting question I had while listening. Paintsville was not allowed to play ANY music in the Regional championship because of complaints from Salmons which takes a big part of having home field advantage away from the Tigers then the horn was blowing so much at Raceland I have no doubt it interfered with play calling for the Panthers. I guess use what you can use to get the edge.

[Patriot1]

The train horn did bring up an interesting question I had while listening. Paintsville was not allowed to play ANY music in the Regional championship because of complaints from Salmons which takes a big part of having home field advantage away from the Tigers then the horn was blowing so much at Raceland I have no doubt it interfered with play calling for the Panthers. I guess use what you can use to get the edge.

The horn I don’t think had any influence on the game, Pikeville uses hand signals for the plays. The jumping offsides was by not watching the ball two on the wideout and he couldn’t have heard it if there was no noise. The guard was just alittle to fast anticipating the snap. Pikeville fell to execute on some plays in the red zone. For instance #2 of Pikeville had 4 or 5 steps on the defender and they overthrew him. Like I said Pikeville left two many plays on the field and Raceland capalized.

[Blue_Bird96]

The horn I don’t think had any influence on the game, Pikeville uses hand signals for the plays. The jumping offsides was by not watching the ball two on the wideout and he couldn’t have heard it if there was no noise. The guard was just alittle to fast anticipating the snap. Pikeville fell to execute on some plays in the red zone. For instance #2 of Pikeville had 4 or 5 steps on the defender and they overthrew him. Like I said Pikeville left two many plays on the field and Raceland capalized.

That will kill u! Cannot afford to march it straight down the field, get inside the 10 and come out with nothing and do it 2-3 times especially in a game like this! Our regional against Raceland I've honestly never seen our offense so out of sync. Throwing one route while receivers were running another more than a couple of times. Our boys were just not their normal selves to start that one!

[Patriot1]

That will kill u! Cannot afford to march it straight down the field, get inside the 10 and come out with nothing and do it 2-3 times especially in a game like this! Our regional against Raceland I've honestly never seen our offense so out of sync. Throwing one route while receivers were running another more than a couple of times. Our boys were just not their normal selves to start that one!

I watched that game at least 4 times and the first one probably that many times. Raceland defense is really good that don’t like to give up the big play. They like to make you work to get the ball down the field. So if you can maintain a long drive and take the 3 or 4 downs to make a first down and not make any mistakes or miss any blocking assignments then you have a chance. If I was a coach playing Paintsville I would have tried to stop the run and make the quarterback beat me knowing he was a freshman, the Hyden kid is going to be a dandy but he was in a crucial situation. Raceland’s coaches had them really prepared for that game and this one too. The Raceland players do a great job executing it,too.

[Ram1998]

How about that blatant late hit by the Raceland player after #33 intercepted that pass in the first half? Drilled #2 for us well after the play was over. 3 refs with eyeballs on it and no flag anywhere lol. That was blatant headhunting. That holding call Patriot references is another one that was ridiculous, BUT I’ve seen it a million times, some refs think blocking someone to the ground is holding and call it every time. Block in the back on us on the punt returns was a good call both times, and so was the hit on the punt returner for Raceland when we hit him and he didn’t catch the ball yet. Glad no injury on that, scarier on the replay. No problem with those at all.

Whole point of the debating is that you all (Ram fans) are acting like an 8 or 9 to zero penalty difference had no impact on the game. I count at least two potential TDS or FG attempts from very close yardage at a minimum that were directly affected by calls in the first half alone.

Yes sir not sure why that wasn’t called.

[PHSForever]

The train horn did bring up an interesting question I had while listening. Paintsville was not allowed to play ANY music in the Regional championship because of complaints from Salmons which takes a big part of having home field advantage away from the Tigers then the horn was blowing so much at Raceland I have no doubt it interfered with play calling for the Panthers. I guess use what you can use to get the edge.

The Pikeville moms with cowbells returned the horn favors. Lol

[PHSForever]

Yes sir not sure why that wasn’t called.

Plays like THAT are exactly why some of us are upset. If it’s judgement calls (holding, etc), or even offsides or false starts, is what it is. But leaving the yellow hanky in the pocket on plays like that, when it’s blatant, is upsetting

[jetpilot]

We've all seen more than enough poor officiating to last a lifetime. This game was particularly awful. Kind of like government where you can't tell if it's just outright incompetence or worse, intentional wrongdoing. Nothing but respect for Raceland, they are top-notch in every way. My gripe is this idiot crew is free to go on their merry way screwing up other games. They should be banished to Pee Wee or flag football games until they retake and pass Reffing For Dummies 101. Seriously, the Pikeville coaches are much too nice but I hope someone complains to the commissioner and these fools are called on the carpet to watch every play on tape and do some "splainin".:flame:

[Patriot1]

He was there according to their announcement, the commissioner is in the House is what I think I heard. I seen something at this game I have never seen before or maybe really never payed any attention,too. The refs came over to Pikeville side and checked every football that they were going to use. So i thought Tom Brady must be are quarterback. I am always early to ever game and I mentioned this to my wife but it maybe normal procedure but I have never notice. Is that normal?