Who Will Win the 15th Next Year?

**More Cowbell** · 08-20-2007, 01:20 AM

Just thought that I would throw the question out there and see what everyone thinks. Please just assume that the teams are what they should be right now, without wondering if any new players will come in (like maybe a certain 3-star guy from Georgia). If any important new transfers do happen, we can always adjust or make a new poll.

Make your pick...

**More Cowbell** · 08-20-2007, 07:37 PM

Well, I see a few people have voted, but no one has posted any replies. So let me say to feel free to post why you voted for one of the three main contenders, or especially tell me who you picked if you voted for "Other".

I guess I'll go first, and I voted for Shelby Valley. Do I think they are a slam-dunk winner? Of course not. I could easily see either them, Pikeville, or Paintsville taking the crown, but I do think any other team winning would be a major upset. The reason I picked Valley is because they return their entire starting lineup and 6th man from last year's regional champions. So until someone else in the region beats Valley in the regular season, you have to consider them the early (slight) favorite.

**Old School** · 08-20-2007, 08:15 PM

The 15th is a toss up as usual, with Shelby Valley, Pikeville and Paintsville being the favorites, but there are two or three other teams that could make a run at tournament time. This should be a interesting season in the 15th.

Harlan Man · 08-20-2007, 09:02 PM

Old School Wrote:The 15th is a toss up as usual, with Shelby Valley, Pikeville and Paintsville being the favorites, but there are two or three other teams that could make a run at tournament time. This should be a interesting season in the 15th.

I am a 13th Region guy that has seen SV 4 or 5 times, and IMO the 15th is no toss up. SV will be a heavy favorite to win the Region without a doubt, with Paintsville and Pikeville posibly having a slim chance to knock them off. Valley is a well oiled machine with all of their players back from last years Region Championship team. They have excellent guard play, but are vulnerable to a team with a powerful inside game and strong guard play both, and I dont know any teams like that in the 15th Region.

jchsrulz · 08-20-2007, 09:52 PM

I think SV SHOULD BE the heavy favorite. But, it hardly works out that way. I believe another year under Bart will boost Pikeville over the top.

**Panther Thunder** · 08-20-2007, 09:53 PM

Harlan Man Wrote:I am a 13th Region guy that has seen SV 4 or 5 times, and IMO the 15th is no toss up. SV will be a heavy favorite to win the Region without a doubt, with Paintsville and Pikeville posibly having a slim chance to knock them off. Valley is a well oiled machine with all of their players back from last years Region Championship team. They have excellent guard play, but are vulnerable to a team with a powerful inside game and strong guard play both, and I dont know any teams like that in the 15th Region.

Obviously you didn't see the region chanmpionship cause it wasn't exactly domination. And Valley didn't even play Paintsville.

**BasketBallonlyfan** · 08-20-2007, 10:16 PM

Harlan Man Wrote:I am a 13th Region guy that has seen SV 4 or 5 times, and IMO the 15th is no toss up. SV will be a heavy favorite to win the Region without a doubt, with Paintsville and Pikeville posibly having a slim chance to knock them off. Valley is a well oiled machine with all of their players back from last years Region Championship team. They have excellent guard play, but are vulnerable to a team with a powerful inside game and strong guard play both, and I dont know any teams like that in the 15th Region.

You are giving Pikeville a slim chance of beating Shelby Valley. Then you say that Shelby Valley has problems with a powerful inside game and strong guard play. Pikeville will have both of those this year. Pikeville will have the strongest inside play of any team in the mountains this season. Add to that the guard play of Jordan Bells quickness and determination with Matt Clevengers driving and Daniel Harmons play. And all of that is not even mentioning Tim Honakers strength and slashing ability. So to say they have a slim chance when their strengths are what you say Shelby Valleys weaknesses are is a contradiction dont you think?

ComeFlyWithMe · 08-20-2007, 10:26 PM

BasketBallonlyfan Wrote:You are giving Pikeville a slim chance of beating Shelby Valley. Then you say that Shelby Valley has problems with a powerful inside game and strong guard play. Pikeville will have both of those this year. Pikeville will have the strongest inside play of any team in the mountains this season. Add to that the guard play of Jordan Bells quickness and determination with Matt Clevengers driving and Daniel Harmons play. And all of that is not even mentioning Tim Honakers strength and slashing ability. So to say they have a slim chance when their strengths are what you say Shelby Valleys weaknesses are is a contradiction dont you think?

This is the same crap that's been said all summer and it's getting old, Valley lost no one, Jeremy and Kyle contributed some, but the top 6 are back, Pikeville returns a lot too, Valley beat them 4 times, Pikeville has no room to talk about how they are gonna do this and that, who has this ability or not, Valley already knows what ability they have, we saw what you did with that ability last year, and we're prepared to see it again, when you beat Valley, then you can start talking about how this guy has this ability, this guy has this, because from what I saw last year, Valley had an ability to counter every one of Pikeville's

**Panther Thunder** · 08-20-2007, 10:29 PM

ComeFlyWithMe Wrote:This is the same crap that's been said all summer and it's getting old, Valley lost no one, Jeremy and Kyle contributed some, but the top 6 are back, Pikeville returns a lot too, Valley beat them 4 times, Pikeville has no room to talk about how they are gonna do this and that, who has this ability or not, Valley already knows what ability they have, we saw what you did with that ability last year, and we're prepared to see it again, when you beat Valley, then you can start talking about how this guy has this ability, this guy has this, because from what I saw last year, Valley had an ability to counter every one of Pikeville's

He never said Pikeville was going to beat Valley, he was just asking the guy from Harlan how he could give Valley a big margin of voctory when Pikeville's strengths are what he considered Valley's Weaknesses.

**More Cowbell** · 08-20-2007, 10:43 PM

Just looked at the poll results, and Paintsville's not getting much love on this thread. Any Tiger backers out there want to disagree?

Also, I would love to know who you think will win if you picked "Other".

**BasketBallonlyfan** · 08-20-2007, 11:00 PM

ComeFlyWithMe Wrote:This is the same crap that's been said all summer and it's getting old, Valley lost no one, Jeremy and Kyle contributed some, but the top 6 are back, Pikeville returns a lot too, Valley beat them 4 times, Pikeville has no room to talk about how they are gonna do this and that, who has this ability or not, Valley already knows what ability they have, we saw what you did with that ability last year, and we're prepared to see it again, when you beat Valley, then you can start talking about how this guy has this ability, this guy has this, because from what I saw last year, Valley had an ability to counter every one of Pikeville's

You tell me, I was just disagreeing with the statement that Shelby Valley was a heavy favorite to win the region. I agree they are the favorite to win it. But do you really think that Pikeville and Paintsville only have a slim chance at winning it? Or do you think it will be a game between the two teams? By the way, I will say the same thing about your comment that I said about the comments two years ago. I bet that Shelby Valley's graduated seniors are happy that once they are gone they are ones who just contributed some. Pikeville on the other hand misses their seniors from the year before.

**warriorpride** · 08-20-2007, 11:08 PM

I gotta say I would like to see my warriors get back as the 15th regional champs.

**BlackcatAlum** · 08-20-2007, 11:43 PM

As of right now, I would choose Pikeville. I really like how this team has come along. Devin Adams will be able to own the paint, and Tim and Ted Honaker will be real good players on both ends of the floor, and they also have a real nice player in Daniel Harmon. Shelby Valley is good, but there still young. Paintsville in my opinion is the most athletic team of the three, but they just don't play enough team ball to win region. One thing is for certain that the 15th Region is gonna be really strong this year.

magoffin#10 · 08-21-2007, 02:52 PM

I think Paintsville will win the 15th cause they have alot coming back and r a very experienced team. Shelby Valley and Pikeville will be close behind but just not enough.

rallo316 · 08-21-2007, 03:54 PM

SV is the favorite but the 15th region is always very competive at tourny time.

Luke The Drifter · 08-21-2007, 04:31 PM

IMO it's between two teams. SV is the favorite and Pikeville is a very close second. I just don't think Paintsivlle will be there in the end. I don't think the rest of the region is that strong.

Grand Slam · 08-21-2007, 06:42 PM

paintsville is my pick i think that they arent a runaway its wide open but that just my opinion

**Old School** · 08-21-2007, 07:29 PM

Harlan Man Wrote:I am a 13th Region guy that has seen SV 4 or 5 times, and IMO the 15th is no toss up. SV will be a heavy favorite to win the Region without a doubt, with Paintsville and Pikeville posibly having a slim chance to knock them off. Valley is a well oiled machine with all of their players back from last years Region Championship team. They have excellent guard play, but are vulnerable to a team with a powerful inside game and strong guard play both, and I dont know any teams like that in the 15th Region.

Shelby Valley may be a slight favorite, but I also think Paintsville and Pikeville both have a good chance of winning the region. I think a lot depends on which teams are playing well and the end of the season, and can avoid major injuries.

**More Cowbell** · 08-21-2007, 10:46 PM

OK, now the poll shows Valley 11, Pikeville 9, Paintsville 7, Other 5. That's more like what I was expecting the results to be, although I still think 5 for "Other" is still a bit too high. If you voted this way, what team do you think will win it? I think I saw one guy say East Ridge, but I'm still curious about the other votes.

BTW, I personally see a very steep drop-off in talent after the top 3 teams this year. Which doesn't always mean a lot come tourney time, look at what almost happened to Valley in the first round of the regional last year!

**BlackcatAlum** · 08-21-2007, 10:52 PM

More Cowbell Wrote:OK, now the poll shows Valley 11, Pikeville 9, Paintsville 7, Other 5. That's more like what I was expecting the results to be, although I still think 5 for "Other" is still a bit too high. If you voted this way, what team do you think will win it? I think I saw one guy say East Ridge, but I'm still curious about the other votes.

BTW, I personally see a very steep drop-off in talent after the top 3 teams this year. Which doesn't always mean a lot come tourney time, look at what almost happened to Valley in the first round of the regional last year!

I'm sure that the "5" that voted other where choosing upon school pride.

**BasketBallonlyfan** · 08-22-2007, 06:44 AM

I think a surprise team will pop up and be playing good ball come regions time. I look for someone like either Betsy Layne, Johnson Central, or Belfry to make a run at the title. I dont think their record will show them being a top team. But come tourney time, just throw all the records out the window. It will be either win or baseball season starts.

**Scotty doesn't know** · 08-23-2007, 12:41 AM

BasketBallonlyfan Wrote:I think a surprise team will pop up and be playing good ball come regions time. I look for someone like either Betsy Layne, Johnson Central, or Belfry to make a run at the title. I dont think their record will show them being a top team. But come tourney time, just throw all the records out the window. It will be either win or baseball season starts.

I agree with you that some team will decide to play good ball and be competitive. I think that the closest shot to the top three is Belfry. Valley, Pikeville, Paintsville,.........Belfry

**More Cowbell** · 08-23-2007, 01:04 AM

Scotty doesn't know Wrote:I agree with you that some team will decide to play good ball and be competitive. I think that the closest shot to the top three is Belfry. Valley, Pikeville, Paintsville,.........Belfry

I'm not sure about Belfry, after losing Case. Maybe the next best team would be Johnson Central, they always seem to be pretty solid. Also, I don't know what Magoffin lost from last year, but they did beat Paintsville for the 57th title.

Watchful Eye · 08-23-2007, 10:25 AM

I think Paintsville has a great oppurtunity, if they work togteher. All of the starters have been playing varsity pretty much since hey were in the 7th grade. If they're gonna actually work togther this year is they're last option. If they don't work together they'll never get out of the district. I believe Magoffin will still produce several upsets this upcoming year in the 57th. Central lost the one man show. Sheldon Clark is rebuilding. Lawrence might be overlooked, I don't know what they have.

rallo316 · 08-23-2007, 12:04 PM

i believe this is the year for some kind of major upset i don't know what school though.

**Scotty doesn't know** · 08-23-2007, 12:09 PM

More Cowbell Wrote:I'm not sure about Belfry, after losing Case. Maybe the next best team would be Johnson Central, they always seem to be pretty solid. Also, I don't know what Magoffin lost from last year, but they did beat Paintsville for the 57th title.

I forgot about Magoffin upsetting Paintsville. Do you know how much any of these other teams lost?

EASports12 · 08-23-2007, 04:00 PM

IMO slight edge to SV over Pikeville, but not much this year...decent chence to Paintsville if they can pull it together.

**NYY10** · 08-23-2007, 04:51 PM

rematch of last years finals
Valley wins
and Pikeville is runner ups

bball fan · 08-23-2007, 09:02 PM

Pikeville fell 4 baskets short of winning the region last season with some very young kids. Something tells me that the Pikeville coaching staff will find a way to get those 4 baskets this season.

**Scotty doesn't know** · 08-23-2007, 10:26 PM

bball fan Wrote:Pikeville fell 4 baskets short of winning the region last season with some very young kids. Something tells me that the Pikeville coaching staff will find a way to get those 4 baskets this season.

However, Valley won it with a team the was just as young. Not to take anything away from Pikeville:Thumbs: , who I agree is not too far behind Valley in the region. Pikeville will just have to prove that they can beat them this year. They may split with them this year.