[RunItUpTheGut]

Sometimes i wonder why we still want to live in this world.

I know some will scream for gun control laws as they always do, but in all honesty, 40 and 50 years ago this was virtually unheard of, whats changed?
Have the guns changed or the people?

I honestly believe we would be better off going back in time to a world of no media and no publishing or internet of any kind. Publicizing this type of stuff and making them famous is the reason a majority of these people do it anyways.

And sick bastard that can kill a bunch of innocent children obviously isnt right in the head. I can only pray this is God's way of keeping something much more wors from happening to these kids. He works in mysterious ways!

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

If you are pro gun get ready because all hell is about to break loose for us, politicizing a tragedy is what anti gunners do best. As for the actual event I can't really even fathom why a person would do this, or how. But as a christian my sorrow is lessened by the knowledge that those babies are in Gods hands now. Thats the best I can do to cope honestly thinking about it brings me to tears.

[LWC]

One of the most powerful forces that a Christian can carry is forgiveness. As difficult as it is, we are asked to love and forgive. Thankfully, Jesus empowers us by His strength to do both. LWC, the person, cannot love and forgive those involved in intentionally targeting and killing even one, let alone 20 small children. However, by the power of Christ in me, I can find a way.

Evil cannot bear to hear the name of Jesus. Light is the only thing that overcomes darkness. If we conjure dark thoughts, sinful hatred, and fill our hearts with malice, evil wins.

I hope God would give me the strength to say the same thing if evil ever attacked my wife, the members of my congregation or my family.

As devastating as Columbine was, we did have positive stories to come in the aftermath. As unfathomable as the terrorist attacks of September 11th were, positive things did come in the aftermath. If we allow Him to, God can take a situation that evil has done and show us grace rising from the ashes.

What I am taking from this horrible incident is to pray for my enemies and love my neighbor as myself. I am taking this lesson hard and will need every ounce of grace, peace, hope and truth that the Holy Spirit can possibly pour into me to do it. I can overcome the direction my thoughts are trying to take me, in Jesus name.

We can overcome. We can overcome. In Jesus name, we can overcome.

[SKINNYPIG]

If "Gun Control" is brought up by congress as a way of dealing with this despicable act, it will be nothing more than posing again.

Connecticut has some of the strongest gun control laws in the country...They were futile, more will be futile.

If a psychopath that doesn't value his own life wants to pull a stunt like this, no law will stop him.

[Do-double-gg]

As this was unfolding on the news all I wanted to do is grab my two daughters of 8 and 2 years and hold em tight. I was at work and I started to think about what the parents of the kids who were killed were going through at this very moment. It hurts to lose anyone in the family but, to lose a child especially in this manner must be the worst thing a person could ever have to go through. I just can't emagine and don't want to even think about something like this with one of my girls. If I lost my girls I don't think I would want to go on in this crazy world. I was never big on crying but since I became a dad I think it has changed me in so many ways because when I was watching this all I could do was cry and I couldn't stop. On this night I will say a special prayer for all the people who were affected by this horrible incident.

[Wildcatk23]

If you are pro gun get ready because all hell is about to break loose for us, politicizing a tragedy is what anti gunners do best. As for the actual event I can't really even fathom why a person would do this, or how. But as a christian my sorrow is lessened by the knowledge that those babies are in Gods hands now. Thats the best I can do to cope honestly thinking about it brings me to tears.

Gun control? Please tell me why a teacher needed semi automatic weapons? Why anyone does?

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

Gun control? Please tell me why a teacher needed semi automatic weapons? Why anyone does?

Because this is America the nation where no one has the right to tell you what you need and what you don't need. These guns have existed for a hundred years. And repeating weapons for a lot longer than that. Society is the problem not the gun

[Wildcatk23]

Because this is America the nation where no one has the right to tell you what you need and what you don't need. These guns have existed for a hundred years. And repeating weapons for a lot longer than that. Society is the problem not the gun

So I should be able to buy dynamite? Anthrax? Missiles? Tanks? Ak 47?

There is a difference between owning a hunting rifle than owning semi auto weapons with extended clips.

I'm a gun nut myself man. But you shouldn't be able to buy a ar 15 at Walmart.


You right society has changed. Somewhere along the line we have failed each other as human beings.

But with society changing so should the laws they are governed by. I don't think the 2nd amendment was written for the weapons we now have.

There fun to shoot. Love it. But I could go without some fun to limit the loss of life in tragedies like this.

[Harry Rex Vonner]

So I should be able to buy dynamite? Anthrax? Missiles? Tanks? Ak 47?

There is a difference between owning a hunting rifle than owning semi auto weapons with extended clips.

I'm a gun nut myself man. But you shouldn't be able to buy a ar 15 at Walmart.


You right society has changed. Somewhere along the line we have failed each other as human beings.

But with society changing so should the laws they are governed by. I don't think the 2nd amendment was written for the weapons we now have.

There fun to shoot. Love it. But I could go without some fun to limit the loss of life in tragedies like this.

Your first and third sentences are a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

Personally, after watching the unbalanced propaganda distributed by Meet the Press (NBC) and This Week (ABC), I would encourage freedom lovers to visit their local sources tomorrow to add a few items to their inventory. The nuts are out of their shells again and, with the parasite socialist in control, it could get bad.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Once again, its not guns that kill people, people kill people.


If this psycho didnt have guns then he would have took a knife in that school and cut all there throats.

[Spirit100]

This is a mental health issue not a gun regulation issue....whether shooting a .22 long rifle or a howitzer the following applies:

Evil doesn't exist within a gun. It exists in the minds and hearts of those who pull the trigger for evil purposes. - The Soldiers Sanctuary

Even at the worst case scenario, the disarming of US citizens, sick and domented criminals will find black market alternatives to obtain weapons and cowardly murder the innocent.

Mental health and media exposure should be the focal points for solutions. The potential cures are being obstructed by the cause.

Back to what you do have control over. Love on your kids, family, friends and co-workers and pray for the victims, their families, and the decision makers who will legislate new policy...let's hope and pray for the right reasons.

I'm going to go hug my son now !

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

So I should be able to buy dynamite? Anthrax? Missiles? Tanks? Ak 47?

There is a difference between owning a hunting rifle than owning semi auto weapons with extended clips.

I'm a gun nut myself man. But you shouldn't be able to buy a ar 15 at Walmart.


You right society has changed. Somewhere along the line we have failed each other as human beings.

But with society changing so should the laws they are governed by. I don't think the 2nd amendment was written for the weapons we now have.

There fun to shoot. Love it. But I could go without some fun to limit the loss of life in tragedies like this.

The first school shooting that ever happened in this country was around the time the 2A was written and involved four kids killing 9 people. I dont think they had glocks just saying. The 2A was written to protect us from things worse than a school shooting will ever be, you wanting to limit it would be like me wanting to limit the 1A, or the 4A.

[Granny Bear]

This is a mental health issue not a gun regulation issue....whether shooting a .22 long rifle or a howitzer the following applies:

Possible personality disorder and autism is what I have read. Autistic persons, generally are not violent to anyone but themselves. I believe the "possible" personality disorder has been proven to be a "definate" personality disorder.


Evil doesn't exist within a gun. It exists in the minds and hearts of those who pull the trigger for evil purposes. - The Soldiers Sanctuary

Even at the worst case scenario, the disarming of US citizens, sick and domented criminals will find black market alternatives to obtain weapons and cowardly murder the innocent.

Agree! When people like this do unspeakable things with a gun, the first thing some want is to do disarm everyone....this will never happen.


Mental health and media exposure should be the focal points for solutions. The potential cures are being obstructed by the cause.

This is a profound statement. I couldn't agree more.


Back to what you do have control over. Love on your kids, family, friends and co-workers and pray for the victims, their families, and the decision makers who will legislate new policy...let's hope and pray for the right reasons.

I'm going to go hug my son now !

Good job!!

[Harry Rex Vonner]

If this is not the most tragic event in our history, it is close. The lives of those effected families are permanently scarred and, in spite of the often used and absolutely false and ridiculous saying, time does not heal these wounds. It never does so.

Making the tragedy worse is the predictable and immediate campaign by the left to use this event to further their agenda of gun control. Anyone watching any of the usual liberal media sources is being inundated with the usual talking points from the usual sources.

Of course, we all know that super liberal, Rahm Emanuel, told his cohorts that they should never waste a good tragedy. His suggestion is being heeded and the left is in full armor.

[Wildcatk23]

Once again, its not guns that kill people, people kill people.


If this psycho didnt have guns then he would have took a knife in that school and cut all there throats.

Right he would have a knife. Think of how many lives would have been save if he just had a knife.

[Wildcatk23]

This is a mental health issue not a gun regulation issue....whether shooting a .22 long rifle or a howitzer the following applies:

Evil doesn't exist within a gun. It exists in the minds and hearts of those who pull the trigger for evil purposes. - The Soldiers Sanctuary

Even at the worst case scenario, the disarming of US citizens, sick and domented criminals will find black market alternatives to obtain weapons and cowardly murder the innocent.

Mental health and media exposure should be the focal points for solutions. The potential cures are being obstructed by the cause.

Back to what you do have control over. Love on your kids, family, friends and co-workers and pray for the victims, their families, and the decision makers who will legislate new policy...let's hope and pray for the right reasons.

I'm going to go hug my son now !

No one wants to disarm anyone. Just regulate what kind of weapons you can get.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

No one wants to disarm anyone. Just regulate what kind of weapons you can get.

SO you are going to ban the most popular sporting rifle in the US, and the most popular pistol? Is the government going to send the ATF after people that own them? Good luck you just started a civil war. Or are you going to grandfather the old ones in which would still mean they are available easily to anyone determined to do something like this? Or is it just something that will make the antigunners sleep better at night? Odds are it will be the last one. The AWB was a useless law that did nothing to stop crime. Laws like that will do nothing. Drugs are illegal as all hell yet alot of people abuse them constantly. A good thing to remember is that you can make an AK-47 with a flat piece of metal as long as you have the parts kits which arent considered a firearm. Just the receiver is considered a firearm. Restrict magazine capacity to ten rounds on one, a dremel will fix that. if you have any knowledge of machining you can build a full auto smg the barrell wont be rifled but it can be done and it would be done, alot. the government cat not legislate morality.

[SKINNYPIG]

Gun control? Please tell me why a teacher needed semi automatic weapons? Why anyone does?

As always, semi automatic weapons become the culprit. In that setting (school) this fool could have killed just as many with a pump shotgun and a machete.

Millions of Americans own semi automatic firearms. Many of them enjoy range shooting as a hobby. Many may even believe the "need" them.

For whatever reason a law abiding person/family wants or haves semi automatic firearms, whether assault type or what, is none of yours or anyone elses business. That's my opinion.

I figure the ban of magazines/clips of more than five is on the horizon. That way only people like this murderer will have them while law abiding citizens won't. Drug cartels, gangs, mass murderers and the like will have them or make them themselves. Does banning them make sense to you?

There is a need for real discussion on preventing things like this from happening in the future. Sadly, there is no way to completely stop it. It is my opinion that banning semi automatic/assault weapons is not where the disscussion needs to begin.

Just a thought...If this school had a semi automatic weapon locked in the office where trained staff could have gotten to it when the fool started shooting his way through the door, would there have been a better chance that less lives would have been lost? Just thinking outside the box.

[Crossbones]

The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, along with the rest of the Bill of Rights.
In 2008 and 2010, the Supreme Court issued two landmark decisions concerning the Second Amendment. In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia[1][2] and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. In dicta, the Court listed many longstanding prohibitions and restrictions on firearms possession as being consistent with the Second Amendment.[3] In McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 3025 (2010), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment limits state and local governments to the same extent that it limits the federal government.[4]


Think of how many lives could have been saved if someone other than the purp was armed.

[Crossbones]

The 2nd amendment also protects us as citizens of the United States to keep us a free state. To protect ourselves from government totalitarianism.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

The 2nd amendment also protects us as citizens of the United States to keep us a free state. To protect ourselves from government totalitarianism.

Like I said above the 2A protects us from something far worse than events like this.

[Harry Rex Vonner]

Right he would have a knife. Think of how many lives would have been save if he just had a knife.

How about a bomb? Think how many more may have been lost if he had a bomb or two.

[Harry Rex Vonner]

No one wants to disarm anyone. Just regulate what kind of weapons you can get.

Are you sure? I would think it is better to be cautious of the motives of those who are now running the show. Watch MSNBC, NBC, CBS, and ABC and you will soon be able to read between the lines. Yes. It is best to be cautious. Rights, once compromised, don't come back.

[Wildcatk23]

How about a bomb? Think how many more may have been lost if he had a bomb or two.

I love when you prove my point.

He couldn't easily Get a bomb now could he.

[Wildcatk23]

As always, semi automatic weapons become the culprit. In that setting (school) this fool could have killed just as many with a pump shotgun and a machete.

Millions of Americans own semi automatic firearms. Many of them enjoy range shooting as a hobby. Many may even believe the "need" them.

For whatever reason a law abiding person/family wants or haves semi automatic firearms, whether assault type or what, is none of yours or anyone elses business. That's my opinion.

I figure the ban of magazines/clips of more than five is on the horizon. That way only people like this murderer will have them while law abiding citizens won't. Drug cartels, gangs, mass murderers and the like will have them or make them themselves. Does banning them make sense to you?

There is a need for real discussion on preventing things like this from happening in the future. Sadly, there is no way to completely stop it. It is my opinion that banning semi automatic/assault weapons is not where the disscussion needs to begin.

Just a thought...If this school had a semi automatic weapon locked in the office where trained staff could have gotten to it when the fool started shooting his way through the door, would there have been a better chance that less lives would have been lost? Just thinking outside the box.

How would he of gotten the guns without his mother buying them ?

Yes the elementary should have been armed. That's what I'm saying regulate who has such weapons.

[Granny Bear]

^^
what?

I'm sure I'm misunderstanding your statement.



I'm referring to your statement about the bomb; we must've been posting at the same time.

[Granny Bear]

Right he would have a knife. Think of how many lives would have been save if he just had a knife.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/...chool.html

[Wildcatk23]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/...chool.html

How many died?

[Wildcatk23]

I agree with most of you. I've had a crappy day and posted out of anger .

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

I love when you prove my point.

He couldn't easily Get a bomb now could he.

Rent a box truck.

Get about 500 pounds of fertilizer

About twenty gallons of diesel fuel

a car battery

this would be a small scale version of the OKC bomb.

That seems about as easy as stealing the guns and killing your own mother. Your argument holds no weight what so ever people have been killing each other for a very long time. The weapon is not the problem people are. Civilians have always possesed the equivelent of the military service rifle, yet we didn't have this problem till they took God out of schools and until the media started sensationalizing events like this, if you want to be a celebrity go shoot a bunch of people and CNN will do it for you. These are the problems not the guns, Liberals have fallen into the trap of thinking the nanny state is the answer to all of our problems. Europe has a higher murder rate than the US. Gun Crime is lower but the rates remain similar because people will kill each other no matter what