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Private Schools in KHSAA Playoffs
#61
FBfan4life Wrote:It's called financial aid. Families that make less income- wise gets finacial aid and doctors and lawyer kids cannot qualify. Not to mentioned if your not CATHOLIC of CHRISTIAN of faith....you pay more. Athletes or not. If you know that they recruit or get scholarship tuition then you should call the KHSAA..I have their address and phone number.
If your not of the "faith" you probably pay more because your family does not belong to one of the parishes associated with the school. Since those parishes give money to support the school
#62
rustyankle Wrote:Any school that student has to pay tuition is not like a public school , so make all schools that get tuition play against one another and all public schools that don't get tuition play so you have 2 state tourneys

I understand what you are saying...I think.
At Bourbon Co., if you live outside of their district of town, you are allowed to come to Bourbon but you will pay an annual tuition to attend. Does that happen elsewhere and is that considered the same? Just asking.
#63
nky Wrote:If your not of the "faith" you probably pay more because your family does not belong to one of the parishes associated with the school. Since those parishes give money to support the school

I thought that's what I said...
#64
^ That is the case for Independent schools
#65
Grid Iron Warrior Wrote:I understand what you are saying...I think.
At Bourbon Co., if you live outside of their district of town, you are allowed to come to Bourbon but you will pay an annual tuition to attend. Does that happen elsewhere and is that considered the same? Just asking.

yes, I know that happens at all Boone County schools, and all the Catholic diocesean schools in NKY charge more if your kid is not from one of it's feeder schools

and stardust is referring to your post
#66
Recruiting happens at several institutions, both Private and Public. As for proof, it's out
there, but I don't think that anyone wants to condemn a program for trying to get better
players and improve their talent level. My son was offered to spend the summer and
work out with a team. Then decide if he would like to stay on. We didn't!!! But, with
that being said, I'm not going to KHSAA and penalize a program or the players for what
they thought might help the program. There are several scenarios that KHSAA probably
needs to look at closer, but it appears that if a Coach doesn't question a move then
KHSAA lets it slide.
#67
Lets face it folks. If we continue with the status quo then rural counties with ony one high school will never be able to compete with the likes of Highlands, Cov. Catholic, Trinity, St. X year in and out. Whether independent or private, families are being encouraged to send there kids out of district if they are a prominent athlete. And we all know it, and families get "aid" be it from a prominent person within the community, or just legal financial aid. All I am saying is that county schools with one high school can never compete year in and out with this. Therefore either make some change, or just go ahead and give Highlands, and Trinity their trophies.....cause we all know that no one will be able to even compete with them. Or maybe the school systems around the state could start boycoting these teams until they are placed in an ALL ELITE league of their own. Heck just put them all in 6A and make it at least competitive. Lastly, I personnaly know of a kid that traveled from eastern KY over an hour one way to play at Lex Cath when they won a state title. Sure tuition was paid all legal like just so happens he was RECRUITED by the coach at that time. This is fact because I am friends with him. He has told me first hand of some things that went on at a camp back then from some "Independent" and "Private" schools and their coaching staff. Just don't piss on my boots and tell me its raining. JMO
#68
If a family wants to let their child travel over an hour to go to school good for them. I think your issue is more with rural schools versus suburban/metropolitan schools not really private versus public. Since we all know Highlands is a public school
#69
I think your missing my point. I have coached for over 20yrs. and have voiced this issue on several occassions with KHSAA. I have had the distinct pleasure of coaching against some very fine teams such as Highlands and Cov. Cath. along with Newport Cath. and have seen teams get totally destroyed in the State finals by teams such as Highlands. I think the final score last year for Highlands was something like 50-0. The issue isn't a kid going to school an hour away. The issue is the highly TALENTED student athletes are being pulled from one school district to another just by paying some tuition. If it was truly for education so be it, but we coaches know better. When it is a collaberative effort on behalf of some power house football teams to do this with immunity....that my friend is the problem I have within the confines of AMATURE athletics. So be it independent or private, these schools have the distinct opportunity to pull quality student athletes away from other districts easier than say a county that only has one high school in it. I don't have the solution, but would like to see some changes made. Just look at the 5A and 6A state final scores from the past 10 years. The closest was between Trinity and St. X. Two very fine PRIVATE schools which win every other year. Highlands is public, however for the right amount of money, you can send your future Division I kid their as well. Who is going to send their kid to a school in the hills of eastern ky where I am from. Just saying look at it close and objectively and I think you will agree it isn't and will never be equal the way it is set up now. Thank you
#70
I believe that for many years the KHSAA allowed private schools to run rampant across the state when it came to illegal recruiting. At the same time, they were enforcing rules on recruiting on the public schools more rigidly. There was no problem until they started having a lot of success, especially in basketball, in the late nineties up to a few years ago. Then the KHSAA tried to reign them in by enforcing rules that had been in place or pass even tighter rules. Some public schools were even pushing for a separation. This is when you seen the money and power get involved in athletics as the politicians got involved by putting pressure on the KHSAA and using blackmail tactics such as dissolving the KHSAA if they didn't get their way. The KHSAA then backed off and took a new route. This appears to be that instead of enforcing old rules on private schools, they have relaxed these rules on public schools also. Recruiting is rampant statewide, both public and private. So separation of public/private is not the answer. Enforcing rules already in place is.
#71
There are just not enough PRIVATE schools here in Ky to have them just play in a conference/ league. This is not west coast, east coast or even up north. Where there are more private schools.
#72
If I am the parent of an academically outstanding student, I will make sure that my child attends a school with a history of academic achievement. In other words, if I live in Covington, my child will not attend Covington Holmes. He/She will attend Covington Latin or at least Covington Catholic or Notre Dame Academy.

Why should athletics be any different? If I am the parent of an exceptional football player and I live in Covington, he will attend Fort Thomas Highlands, Covington Catholic, or Beechwood. Of course, if I can work it out, I will do whatever is necessary to enroll him at Louisville Trinity or Louisville St. Xavier.

That is what freedom of opportunity is all about. How can anyone disagree?

The KHSAA doesn't need to strictly enforce its antiquated rules. It needs to enter the real world. At present it is enforcing its rules on a "selective" basis anyway.
#73
Truth Wrote:If I am the parent of an academically outstanding student, I will make sure that my child attends a school with a history of academic achievement. In other words, if I live in Covington, my child will not attend Covington Holmes. He/She will attend Covington Latin or at least Covington Catholic or Notre Dame Academy.

Why should athletics be any different? If I am the parent of an exceptional football player and I live in Covington, he will attend Fort Thomas Highlands, Covington Catholic, or Beechwood. Of course, if I can work it out, I will do whatever is necessary to enroll him at Louisville Trinity or Louisville St. Xavier.

That is what freedom of opportunity is all about. How can anyone disagree?

The KHSAA doesn't need to strictly enforce its antiquated rules. It needs to enter the real world. At present it is enforcing its rules on a "selective" basis anyway.

Well said. I could not agree more.
#74
Truth Wrote:If I am the parent of an academically outstanding student, I will make sure that my child attends a school with a history of academic achievement. In other words, if I live in Covington, my child will not attend Covington Holmes. He/She will attend Covington Latin or at least Covington Catholic or Notre Dame Academy.

Why should athletics be any different? If I am the parent of an exceptional football player and I live in Covington, he will attend Fort Thomas Highlands, Covington Catholic, or Beechwood. Of course, if I can work it out, I will do whatever is necessary to enroll him at Louisville Trinity or Louisville St. Xavier.

That is what freedom of opportunity is all about. How can anyone disagree?

The KHSAA doesn't need to strictly enforce its antiquated rules. It needs to enter the real world. At present it is enforcing its rules on a "selective" basis anyway.


I agree. If they are not going to enforce their rules the same across the board, they need to change them. Selective is the key word. Why make some schools follow the rules to the letter and others seem to get a free pass to do whatever the heck they want to.

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