[tigerfan13]

Neither team is very good, which should make it at the least a good game. Pikeville has had no defense when needed. That should make the difference in the game. Turnovers into pts could change the game in the other direction... Pride also a factor for both schools. Sounding better, I might have to go.....

Paintsville has a very good team. If everyone comes ready to play, the tigers should roll in this one. The tigers have a chance to do something that hasn't been done in a while. Good Luck Tigers. BRING IT BACK!

[oneijoe]

KHSAA's stats don't even show A. Craynon for the Pburg vs. Painstsville game. The only Craynon stats there are for J. Craynon w/ 2 carries for 0 yards and 6.5 tackles. Am I missing something in your statement about Craynon doing "the lion's share of the damage against the Panthers" statement?

...

Allen Craynon (#3, the shifty speed back) injured a hamstring in the last scrimmage game vs. Sheldon Clark, so didn't play vs. Paintsville. His first game back full-time was Saturday at Beechwood. The Craynon you refer to isn't the same one.

Against Pikeville, Allen gained 212 yds. on 17 carries. Setser (#5, the power back) picked up 107 yds. on 20 carries.

:thumpsup:

[bobcatfan22]

I take the tigers by a td

[ball boy]

paintsville wins by a couple tds

[classy tiger]

Neither team is very good, which should make it at the least a good game. Pikeville has had no defense when needed. That should make the difference in the game. Turnovers into pts could change the game in the other direction... Pride also a factor for both schools. Sounding better, I might have to go.....

Have you seen Pikeville or Paintsville play this year? Obviously not! Look over their schedules.

[Eagle_Fan442]

I'm picking the tigers in this one...Good Luck Boys

[bucslover68]

Have you seen Pikeville or Paintsville play this year? Obviously not! Look over their schedules.

The truth really is that neither team is very good. Personally, I have seen Pikeville play twice. I have not seen Paintsville play, but I have in the past, and they have usually had good teams. These two teams may be ok in 1A, but they are nowhere near the top of 1A teams and in the big picture they are just not very good. There are probably 25 teams in the mountains that are better than either of these teams. (Please don't make me name them, Ha Ha.)

[tigerfan13]

The truth really is that neither team is very good. Personally, I have seen Pikeville play twice. I have not seen Paintsville play, but I have in the past, and they have usually had good teams. These two teams may be ok in 1A, but they are nowhere near the top of 1A teams and in the big picture they are just not very good. There are probably 25 teams in the mountains that are better than either of these teams. (Please don't make me name them, Ha Ha.)

Please tell me how you can justify saying that neither team is very good? Paintsville's losses come from Prestonsburg (3A), Johnson Central (5A), and Raceland (#2 team in 1A). Pikeville's losses come from Corbin (undefeated), Ashland (5A), Lex. Catholic (4A), Belfry, and Pburg. To go as far as saying that neither team is very good is bogus, especially considering you haven't even seen Paintsville play this year. How can you base this years team on past teams? You can't. The TRUTH is you don't know what you are talking about and need to get your facts straight before you get on a Paintsville/Pikeville thread and say neither team is very good. 25 teams in the mountains that are better? Please name them. Then again, don't because we are trying to keep this thread about the game and don't need people like you on here trying to turn it into something negative. GOOD LUCK TIGERS!!

[If...Then]

Rain showers are given for Friday. This game should be a mud bath, again.

So the ball will be slick. Tyler Baker won't be used as often so Daniel Harmon will be carrying the ball ALOT more than usual, which is quite alot. All Paintsville has to do for the Win is stop him or force a fumble. But the Tigers still have to pull their part and move the ball down the field

[bucslover68]

Please tell me how you can justify saying that neither team is very good? Paintsville's losses come from Prestonsburg (3A), Johnson Central (5A), and Raceland (#2 team in 1A). Pikeville's losses come from Corbin (undefeated), Ashland (5A), Lex. Catholic (4A), Belfry, and Pburg. To go as far as saying that neither team is very good is bogus, especially considering you haven't even seen Paintsville play this year. How can you base this years team on past teams? You can't. The TRUTH is you don't know what you are talking about and need to get your facts straight before you get on a Paintsville/Pikeville thread and say neither team is very good. 25 teams in the mountains that are better? Please name them. Then again, don't because we are trying to keep this thread about the game and don't need people like you on here trying to turn it into something negative. GOOD LUCK TIGERS!!

It is not about being negative, it is about what is true. Like I said, neither team is very good in the big picture. Obviously, a lot of the members on here agree because neither is rated in the top twenty or the teams receiving votes. It is nothing personal. It will be a great rivalry game, but this year neither team would do well against a team like Hazard, and if either team gets that far, they would have to face the Bulldogs in the third round. The loser of the game Friday will probably face them in the second round at Hazard.

[EKUAlum05]

FWIW, I counted exactly 25 teams I would expect to win vs. either Pikeville or Paintsville.

[tigerfan13]

FWIW, I counted exactly 25 teams I would expect to win vs. either Pikeville or Paintsville.

Expect and Do are two different things. A lot of people "expected" LSU to beat Florida didn't they? Bottom line is, if you haven't seen them play don't talk about how they would do against a certain team? We believe in our boys and we KNOW they CAN do it and will do it. For someone to come on here and talk about how these teams aren't very good is nonsense and you need to find a different thread. That's not what we do here. GO TIGERS!:Thumbs:

[footballcrazy08]

I'm going to take the Panthers 21-7

[EKUAlum05]

Expect and Do are two different things. A lot of people "expected" LSU to beat Florida didn't they? Bottom line is, if you haven't seen them play don't talk about how they would do against a certain team? We believe in our boys and we KNOW they CAN do it and will do it. For someone to come on here and talk about how these teams aren't very good is nonsense and you need to find a different thread. That's not what we do here. GO TIGERS!:Thumbs:

... so if we go by this logic then all the teams I would expect Paintsville and Pikeville to win against could equally beat them..so in essence there could be around 40 teams who could beat either team then, such as Shelby Valley, Magoffin County, etc...

In terms of the game at hand... this is a huge game for Pikeville's Coach Copley. A loss here followed by a subsequent 2nd Round road loss may be too much for him to overcome.

I expect Harmon to run wild.. but I find it hard believing Pikeville will stop Paintsville if they struggled to stop Allen Central.

Pikeville has had a pension for mental errors and turnovers in big games, if that continues it will be ugly. Conversely, if Pikeville plays to their potential they win this game by 2TD's. I see it being a mix of the two.

Paintsville 33
Pikeville 28

[tigerfan13]

... so if we go by this logic then all the teams I would expect Paintsville and Pikeville to win against could equally beat them..so in essence there could be around 40 teams who could beat either team then, such as Shelby Valley, Magoffin County, etc...

In terms of the game at hand... this is a huge game for Pikeville's Coach Copley. A loss here followed by a subsequent 2nd Round road loss may be too much for him to overcome.

I expect Harmon to run wild.. but I find it hard believing Pikeville will stop Paintsville if they struggled to stop Allen Central.

Pikeville has had a pension for mental errors and turnovers in big games, if that continues it will be ugly. Conversely, if Pikeville plays to their potential they win this game by 2TD's. I see it being a mix of the two.

Paintsville 33
Pikeville 28

On any given day, any given team can beat any other given team.

I agree with you on the results of the game.

[oneijoe]

Expect and Do are two different things. A lot of people "expected" LSU to beat Florida didn't they? Bottom line is, if you haven't seen them play don't talk about how they would do against a certain team? We believe in our boys and we KNOW they CAN do it and will do it. For someone to come on here and talk about how these teams aren't very good is nonsense and you need to find a different thread. That's not what we do here. GO TIGERS!:Thumbs:

tigerfan,

I appreciate your spirit, but you're FAR too sensitive. It's no secret Class A D8 is comparitively weaker at the top than usual this year.

With that said, there IS a new enthusiasm for football at Paintsville. I look forward to seeing what Coach Kinner will put on the field the next few years for the Tigers !!

[tigerfan13]

tigerfan,

I appreciate your spirit, but you're FAR too sensitive. It's no secret Class A D8 is comparitively weaker at the top than usual this year.

With that said, there IS a new enthusiasm for football at Paintsville. I look forward to seeing what Coach Kinner will put on the field the next few years for the Tigers !!

Call it sensitive or whatever. I just thought the fact someone would post just to take a stab and say both teams aren't any good was out of line. Can we get back to the game now?

Should make it interesting if the forecast still calls for rain on Friday. With the tigers coming off of 2 losses to JC and Raceland I look for them to be fired up and ready to play. Good luck to both teams. GO BLUE! :football:

[OffTheHook]

The truth really is that neither team is very good. Personally, I have seen Pikeville play twice. I have not seen Paintsville play, but I have in the past, and they have usually had good teams. These two teams may be ok in 1A, but they are nowhere near the top of 1A teams and in the big picture they are just not very good. There are probably 25 teams in the mountains that are better than either of these teams. (Please don't make me name them, Ha Ha.)

As far as 25 teams in the "Mountains"...You may be right. But, we are talking about 2 small 1A schools. there are 40 teams in 1A in the state. 1-5 are pretty good teams. But, 6 thru 40...I would throw either one of these teams into the mix with them. Plus, you are judging these 2 on their schedules. Jesus, look who they have played outside their District. I can name quite a few larger schools in the "mountains", that don't even come close to their schedules.
As far as what another poster said about Magoffin and SV. I'll take either one of these teams over those guys any day.

[Warlock]

Paintsville over Pikeville. My Tigers will be the district champs this year.

[straightshooter]

Pikeville's Daniel Harmon is a great running back. However, the lack of line play (not to mention Coach Copley tagging him - even now - as a Mr. Football candidate) has made this a disappointing season.

I have read (and heard on the radio) how Harmon is a Mr. Football candidate. The kid is a good Class 1A running back. I am not bashing him at all. From what I hear, he is a great kid and a dandy baseball player.

But here's some statistics that I found online: Going into the Prestonsburg game (which he finished with under 100 yards), Harmon had 965 yards and 16 touchdowns. If my memory is correct, he rushed for six touchdowns against Betsy Layne and a school record 7 TDs against South Floyd. He rushed for well over 500 yards in those two games.

So, that means, this coach proclaimed Mr. Football candidate has rushed for 3 touchdowns and 400 plus yards in five games. That's not something for Coach Copley to brag about and it places Harmon in a difficult situation, being referred to as the best in the mountains (or the state at that)

Paintsville has speed and they spread the field. Pikeville has serious line problems and they really cannot hit like Pikeville teams in the past. If Harmon shows up big and Tyler Baker makes some big plays, it could be close.

I say Paintsville wins 42-28

[The Joker]

Paintsville has a very good team. If everyone comes ready to play, the tigers should roll in this one. The tigers have a chance to do something that hasn't been done in a while. Good Luck Tigers. BRING IT BACK!

Paintsville doesn't have a very good team (nor does pikeville). Possibly the weakest team the have had in the the past 8-10 years. They haven't even came close to putting up a fight against an average team. A Prestonsburg team that is not very good blew them out of the water. JC well we all know there...and Raceland could've shut them out but they showed some class and let them score against their second string. I understand PHS is doing the right steps to build a program but it isn't built over night. I hate to be the one who spreads the bad new but this is going to be a test of whose worse this year. Pikeville is not a good football team either. However I would like to see this football game because I think it could come down to the wire.

[JackFrost]

KHSAA's stats don't even show A. Craynon for the Pburg vs. Painstsville game. The only Craynon stats there are for J. Craynon w/ 2 carries for 0 yards and 6.5 tackles. Am I missing something in your statement about Craynon doing "the lion's share of the damage against the Panthers" statement?

I have to agree with your statement about finding someone in addition to Harmon. Harmon's an awesome player- but one man can only do so much.

If im not mistaken A. Craynon had over 200 yards against Pikeville. I could be wrong but I dont think I am. Im going with Paintsville walking away with the W in this one. Paintsville will key on Harmon all night and may be able to stop him on a couple of drives, then they have to take advantages of those stops and put the ball into the endzone. It also wouldnt hurt Paintsville with them having home field advantage and their players not wanting to give up a loss infront of the home crowd.

Paintsville-42
Pikeville-35

[TRAIN85]

But here's some statistics that I found online: Going into the Prestonsburg game (which he finished with under 100 yards), Harmon had 965 yards and 16 touchdowns. If my memory is correct, he rushed for six touchdowns against Betsy Layne and a school record 7 TDs against South Floyd. He rushed for well over 500 yards in those two games.

Harmon actually had 105 yards against P-burg. Going into the P-burg game he had 1,025 yards and 17 TD's. Now he has 1,130 yards and 17 TD's. He also only had 5 carries against AC and did not even play in the Belfry game, and only played a hald against Ashland. He is actually averaging around 188 yards a game.

[BlueSky]

Yes I have. They have both beat very weak teams and beaten bad by the rest... Look... this district is weak... But still fun to watch Pikeville and Paintsville...

[Gator]

Paintsville should win, more weapons than Harman.

[PHS Watergirl]

MY PAINTSVILLE TIGERS!!!:letsparty

AND A HAPPY 18th BIRTHDAY TO SENIOR BILLY BRUGH SLONE!!:happybirt

[More Cowbell]

Please tell me how you can justify saying that neither team is very good? Paintsville's losses come from Prestonsburg (3A), Johnson Central (5A), and Raceland (#2 team in 1A). Pikeville's losses come from Corbin (undefeated), Ashland (5A), Lex. Catholic (4A), Belfry, and Pburg.

If you're going to excuse their losses because of the level of competition, then you have to apply the same principle to each team's wins. So, let's see... Pikeville has beaten Allen Central, South Floyd, and Betsy Layne, while Paintsville has beaten the same three teams, plus Phelps. Do you see any wins there to brag about? I don't.

So, based on their schedules so far, what do we know about each team? They can beat up on their weak 1A district brethren, but get thumped by good out-of-district schools. Although that doesn't necessarily mean that they are "bad" teams, it also doesn't show any evidence that either is a "good" team.

Remember, we allow people to speak their minds on BGR, so long as they aren't disrespectful and stay on topic. The thread topic is "Pikeville @ Paintsville", so if someone wants to say that neither team is very good, that's well within their rights to express that opinion.

[tigerfan13]

GO TIGERS! BEAT THE PANTHERS!!:letsparty

[PHS Watergirl]

If you're going to excuse their losses because of the level of competition, then you have to apply the same principle to each team's wins. So, let's see... Pikeville has beaten Allen Central, South Floyd, and Betsy Layne, while Paintsville has beaten the same three teams, plus Phelps. Do you see any wins there to brag about? I don't.

So, based on their schedules so far, what do we know about each team? They can beat up on their weak 1A district brethren, but get thumped by good out-of-district schools. Although that doesn't necessarily mean that they are "bad" teams, it also doesn't show any evidence that either is a "good" team.

Remember, we allow people to speak their minds on BGR, so long as they aren't disrespectful and stay on topic. The thread topic is "Pikeville @ Paintsville", so if someone wants to say that neither team is very good, that's well within their rights to express that opinion.

While that is true, you have to remember that the children get on here. Just saying things a little differently may make a difference.


GO TIGERS BEAT THE PANTHERS!!!:letsparty

[More Cowbell]

While that is true, you have to remember that the children get on here. Just saying things a little differently may make a difference.

How else can they say it? I think that stating a team "isn't very good" is about as nice as you can put it.

The players may get on here, but remember that they are high school football players. I'm sure they hear much worse criticism every week during practice from their coaches. If they can't handle seeing someone say their team isn't very good, they probably shouldn't be playing.

Again, I won't allow someone on here to blatantly attack an individual player, or to be disrespectful to an entire team. However, saying what was said on here does not fall under either of those, and is well within what is considered acceptable on here.