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So many threads debating the top 25 rankings that then spurred several threads of who is over and under rated. How can anyone make a fair comparison unless you look at the schedules all these teams play.

I heard it all through Football season how teams in non-SEC conferences couldn't compete in the SEC and have teh same record. So that tells me that most everyone here agrees that the Strength of the schedule you play is a better barometer of how good a team is. I heard it all season that the BYU's and Boise States play an easy schedule, thus it is easy for them to have virtually a clean record.

If that's the case, then looking at the current top 25 rankings, who is over or under-rated? How do you justify the teams that are ranked low but have played a killer schedule versus those teams that are ranked high but played a cup-cake schedule.

Compare the rankings with the teams RPI strength of schedule:

ESPN/USA Today Top 25
*1. Texas (30)
*2. Kentucky (1)
*3. Kansas
*4. Villanova
*5. Syracuse
*6. Duke
*7. Michigan State
*8. Tennessee
*9. Kansas State
10. Gonzaga
11. Pittsburgh
12. West Virginia
13. Brigham Young
14. Georgetown
15. Purdue
16. Clemson
17. Temple
18. Georgia Tech
19. Wisconsin
20. Butler
21. Connecticut
22. Northern Iowa
23. North Carolina
24. Mississippi
25. Ohio State


RPI Rankings of the above top 25 teams:
(third column is the Rank of that teams schedule)

1 Connecticut 1
2 Kansas State 6
3 Syracuse 7
4 Duke 8
5 Wisconsin 9
6 Georgetown 10
7 West Virginia 14
8 Gonzaga 16
9 Temple 17
10 Pittsburgh 18
11 North Carolina 19
12 Purdue 21
13 Georgia Tech 25
14 Butler 29
15 Kansas 30
16 Villanova 42
17 Texas (30) 47
18 Michigan State 49
19 Clemson 50
20 Tennessee 51
21 Ohio State 62
22 Mississippi 73
23 Northern Iowa 80
24 Kentucky (1) 109
25 Brigham Young 141

Kentucky's schedule may not have the most beastly ranking, but knowing you have to play UCONN, UNC, and Louisville, I'd bet none of those other teams would trade schedules with UK.

PC_You_Know Wrote:Kentucky's schedule may not have the most beastly ranking, but knowing you have to play UCONN, UNC, and Louisville, I'd bet none of those other teams would trade schedules with UK.

Great point and I don't disagree with you at all. But the RPI rankings are based on how the teams that you have played have done, and the teams that they have played have done.

Everyone has knocked the Duke's and UNC's, but their schedule so far through the season has been very balanced against all quality teams. Not just a few games against great teams, and a host of weak teams. I'm not knocking my own UK team, so no one should take that away. But, UK has not played a great schedule, they have played a few great teams.....

These RPI rankings are not right.

RPI Rankings of the above top 25 teams:
(third column is the Rank of that teams schedule)

1 Connecticut 1
2 Kansas State 6
3 Syracuse 7
4 Duke 8
5 Wisconsin 9
6 Georgetown 10
7 West Virginia 14
8 Gonzaga 16
9 Temple 17
10 Pittsburgh 18
11 North Carolina 19
12 Purdue 21
13 Georgia Tech 25
14 Butler 29
15 Kansas 30
16 Villanova 42
17 Texas (30) 47
18 Michigan State 49
19 Clemson 50
20 Tennessee 51
21 Ohio State 62
22 Mississippi 73
23 Northern Iowa 80
24 Kentucky (1) 109
25 Brigham Young 141

Rankings

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Only games against D-I opponents are exhibited on team records

CBSSports.com RPI
Rk. School W L RPI SOS Rank SOS
1 Syracuse 18 1 0.6795 7 0.6008
2 Duke 15 2 0.6749 8 0.6005
3 Kansas State 15 2 0.6720 6 0.6024
4 Kansas 16 1 0.6648 30 0.5680
5 Villanova 16 1 0.6620 42 0.5631
6 Texas 17 1 0.6586 47 0.5587
7 Pittsburgh 15 2 0.6513 18 0.5820
8 Georgetown 13 3 0.6507 10 0.5980
9 Wisconsin 14 4 0.6482 9 0.5996
10 Kentucky 18 0 0.6464 109 0.5286
11 Temple 15 3 0.6451 17 0.5823
12 West Virginia 13 3 0.6448 15 0.5883
13 Gonzaga 13 3 0.6399 16 0.5874
14 Purdue 15 3 0.6376 21 0.5738
15 Tennessee 15 2 0.6369 50 0.5557
16 Xavier 12 5 0.6353 3 0.6112
17 New Mexico 16 3 0.6332 34 0.5658
18 Northern Iowa 16 2 0.6322 79 0.5413
19 Rhode Island 14 2 0.6319 55 0.5519
20 Michigan State 15 3 0.6287 49 0.5573
21 Brigham Young 17 1 0.6253 141 0.5132
22 Vanderbilt 13 3 0.6240 36 0.5644
23 Connecticut 11 6 0.6216 1 0.6376
24 Butler 14 4 0.6213 29 0.5682
25 California 11 6 0.6189 2 0.62

Same service quoted today by ESPN

http://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketb...ng-by-team

1 Connecticut (11-6) 0.638 1 1 163
2 California (11-6) 0.621 2 1 189
3 Xavier (12-5) 0.611 3 3 241
4 Arizona (9-9) 0.608 4 2 173
5 Louisville (12-6) 0.603 5 5 244
6 Kansas St (15-2) 0.602 6 1 203
7 Syracuse (18-1) 0.601 7 7 319
8 Duke (15-2) 0.601 8 1 44
9 Wisconsin (14-4) 0.600 9 5 246
10 Georgetown (13-3) 0.598 11 8 239
11 E Carolina (3-12) 0.595 10 5 319
12 Georgia (8-8) 0.590 13 10 277
13 Bradley (8-9) 0.589 12 11 226
14 W Virginia (13-3) 0.588 16 1 269
15 Miami (OH) (5-11) 0.588 15 7 291
16 Gonzaga (13-3) 0.587 14 6 274
17 Temple (15-3) 0.582 17 2 152
18 Pittsburgh (15-2) 0.582 18 6 262
19 N Carolina (12-6) 0.579 19 2 321
20 Lg Beach St (6-10) 0.577 20 1 209
21 Purdue (15-3) 0.573 22 13 189
22 Cincinnati (12-6) 0.573 21 21 304
23 Texas A&M (12-5) 0.572 24 7 224
24 Marquette (11-6) 0.571 23 20 239
25 Nevada (10-7) 0.569 27 2 243

Benchwarmer Wrote:Rankings

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CBS's Strength of Schedule is not used in NCAA Selection committee decision

Benchwarmer Wrote:These RPI rankings are not right.

I didn't know that you knew which service is used by the NCAA comittee..............

Stardust Wrote:I didn't know that you knew which service is used by the NCAA comittee..............

I didn't know you knew either.

RPI Rankings

The RPI (Rating Percentage Index) is a measure of strength of schedule and how a team does against that schedule. Created in 1981, the RPI is a tool used in selecting and seeding the 65 teams for the NCAA Men's basketball Division I tournament

* Show results:
* 1-101
* 101-201
* 201-347

Records through Wed Jan 20, 2010
RPI Rankings
Rank Team Record Pts SoS Rank v RPI 1-50 v RPI 51-100 v RPI 101-150 v RPI 151-200 v RPI 200+
1.

* Syracuse

18 - 1 0.6797 7 3 - 1 7 - 0 1 - 0 2 - 0 5 - 0
2.

* Duke

15 - 2 0.675 8 4 - 2 4 - 0 3 - 0 1 - 0 3 - 0
3.

* Kansas St.

16 - 2 0.6721 6 5 - 2 2 - 0 3 - 0 2 - 0 3 - 0
4.

* Kansas

16 - 1 0.6645 29 4 - 1 2 - 0 4 - 0 2 - 0 4 - 0
5.

* Villanova

16 - 1 0.6624 40 4 - 1 3 - 0 4 - 0 1 - 0 4 - 0
6.

* Texas

17 - 1 0.6586 47 3 - 1 3 - 0 3 - 0 3 - 0 5 - 0
7.

* Pittsburgh

15 - 2 0.6516 18 4 - 1 2 - 0 4 - 0 3 - 0 2 - 1
8.

* Georgetown

13 - 3 0.6508 10 3 - 2 4 - 1 1 - 0 2 - 0 3 - 0
9.

* Wisconsin

14 - 4 0.6483 9 3 - 3 5 - 0 0 - 1 1 - 0 5 - 0
10.

* Kentucky

18 - 0 0.6464 109 2 - 0 3 - 0 6 - 0 4 - 0 3 - 0
11.

* West Virginia

13 - 3 0.6461 14 2 - 2 4 - 1 2 - 0 4 - 0 1 - 0
12.

* Temple

15 - 3 0.645 17 3 - 2 3 - 1 2 - 0 2 - 0 5 - 0
13.

* Gonzaga

14 - 3 0.6419 15 2 - 3 5 - 0 1 - 0 2 - 0 3 - 0
14.

* Purdue

15 - 3 0.6385 21 3 - 2 4 - 1 1 - 0 2 - 0 6 - 0
15.

* Vanderbilt

14 - 3 0.6382 41 2 - 0 4 - 3 3 - 0 1 - 0 4 - 0
16.

* Tennessee

15 - 2 0.6372 51 2 - 1 4 - 1 3 - 0 3 - 0 3 - 0
17.

* Xavier

12 - 5 0.6345 3 1 - 4 3 - 1 5 - 0 2 - 0 1 - 0
18.

* New Mexico

16 - 3 0.6332 35 4 - 2 1 - 0 5 - 1 3 - 0 3 - 0
19.

* Northern Iowa

16 - 2 0.6322 80 1 - 1 4 - 0 4 - 1 4 - 0 3 - 0
20.

* Rhode Island

14 - 2 0.6319 55 1 - 2 3 - 0 3 - 0 3 - 0 4 - 0
21.

* Michigan St.

15 - 3 0.6289 49 2 - 1 4 - 2 1 - 0 3 - 0 5 - 0
22.

* BYU

18 - 1 0.6256 141 1 - 0 6 - 1 2 - 0 1 - 0 7 - 0
23.

* Butler

14 - 4 0.6214 28 2 - 3 1 - 1 3 - 0 5 - 0 3 - 0
24.

* Connecticut

11 - 6 0.6208 1 1 - 4 4 - 1 2 - 1 3 - 0 1 - 0
25.

* California

11 - 6 0.6189 2 0 - 4 3 - 1 6 - 0 1 - 1 1 - 0
26.

* Georgia Tech

14 - 4 0.6175 26 3 - 2 3 - 2 2 - 0 1 - 0 5 - 0

You obviously did not read my post. I didn't know, but I take it that ESPN knows better than I and you!

Stardust Wrote:You obviously did not read my post. I didn't know, but I take it that ESPN knows better than I and you!

I would hope so.

Benchwarmer Wrote:I would hope so.

Yeah, and they are posted correctly, what you put is erroneous

Stardust Wrote:Yeah, and they are posted correctly, what you put is erroneous

Please use words at my level.

Erroneous - containing or characterized by error.

PC_You_Know Wrote:Erroneous - containing or characterized by error.

thanks I feel smarter now.

Benchwarmer Wrote:thanks I feel smarter now.

Just informing you.

PC_You_Know Wrote:Just informing you.

:Thumbs:

Benchwarmer Wrote::Thumbs:

No harsh feelings hopefully.

PC_You_Know Wrote:No harsh feelings hopefully.

I honestly wanted to know and thanks for tell me.:notworthy

o well all i know is that if kentucky wins saturday we are gonna be number 1