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In Cincinnati, the temprature on the first day of July was 68. Today, it is 63. Are we sure Global Warming is for real or just another Al Gore creation?

Stardust Wrote:In Cincinnati, the temprature on the first day of July was 68. Today, it is 63. Are we sure Global Warming is for real or just another Al Gore creation?

I was thinking the same thing. It was 68 here yesterday the normal is 90 so im really not sure about it anymore.

I personally don't believe a "cool" day in Cinci can disprove global warming. I'm not extremely well informed on the subject, but I do believe the temp. of the earth is increasing over time. Whether or not that is global warming or coincidence is up for debate, but it is true.

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The temperature here in EKY is down too at 70 degrees.

Pretty odd.

I always thought global warming was a scam by the goverment. I personally do not believe in this.

alfus21 Wrote:...

I love how in the second picture the temp. has only increased 1 degree over the last 100 years, yet the "experts" predict it to increase up to 5 degrees over the next 100 years.

Is the earth getting warmer? Yes. Is this increase caused by humans? Not as much as some would like you to think (if we are having a measurable impact at all).

Beef Wrote:I love how in the second picture the temp. has only increased 1 degree over the last 100 years, yet the "experts" predict it to increase up to 5 degrees over the next 100 years.

Is the earth getting warmer? Yes. Is this increase caused by humans? Not as much as some would like you to think (if we are having a measurable impact at all).

:Thumbs:

Beef Wrote:I love how in the second picture the temp. has only increased 1 degree over the last 100 years, yet the "experts" predict it to increase up to 5 degrees over the next 100 years.

Is the earth getting warmer? Yes. Is this increase caused by humans? Not as much as some would like you to think (if we are having a measurable impact at all).

I think the reason it only increased 1 degree over 100 years is probably because automobiles didn't become popular until the 1920's. Not to mention the fact that the population of the United States and World is increasing meaning there are more people to cause air pollution. So with more people, more vehicles on roads, and more factories you could most likely accurately predict that it will increase more than ever over the next 100 years.

Industrialization, deforestation, and pollution have greatly increased atmospheric concentrations of water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide, all greenhouse gases that help trap heat near Earth's surface, all of which are taking place more now than in the past.

The eight warmest years on record (since 1850) have all occurred since 1998, with the warmest year being 2005.

Average temperatures in Alaska, western Canada, and eastern Russia have risen at twice the global average, according to the multinational Arctic Climate Impact Assessment report compiled between 2000 and 2004.

This thread is hilarious because we're talking about a few cool days in July, but people fail to mention the 70 degree days in January and the fact that we hardly ever see measurable snow anymore. (Not like we used to)

I can't say for sure that humans are causing all of this, but it is real.

"The number of skeptics is swelling everywhere."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124597505076157449.html

Al Gore has no friends but the Manbearpig! He has to come up with something to make the time go by.

alfus21 Wrote:I think the reason it only increased 1 degree over 100 years is probably because automobiles didn't become popular until the 1920's. Not to mention the fact that the population of the United States and World is increasing meaning there are more people to cause air pollution. So with more people, more vehicles on roads, and more factories you could most likely accurately predict that it will increase more than ever over the next 100 years.

Industrialization, deforestation, and pollution have greatly increased atmospheric concentrations of water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide, all greenhouse gases that help trap heat near Earth's surface, all of which are taking place more now than in the past.

The eight warmest years on record (since 1850) have all occurred since 1998, with the warmest year being 2005.

Average temperatures in Alaska, western Canada, and eastern Russia have risen at twice the global average, according to the multinational Arctic Climate Impact Assessment report compiled between 2000 and 2004.

This thread is hilarious because we're talking about a few cool days in July, but people fail to mention the 70 degree days in January and the fact that we hardly ever see measurable snow anymore. (Not like we used to)

I can't say for sure that humans are causing all of this, but it is real.

This thread was meant to be a joke, just as Global warming is. For every argument that the uninformed bring to the table, there is an argument the of the opposite. Temperatures have increased in Alaska and Russia, but the opposite has happened in Australia, where the temperatures the average temperatures have declined. In the Eastern parts of Antarctica, the thickness of freezing has been increasing over the last 25 years.

Where you live today used to be an ocean. Is it a fact that in certain parts of the world temperatures have risen, yes! But it has declined in other parts of the world. Just as oceanic water tables have increased in North America, the have increased in Africa. Yet, we always hear the doom!

:please:

I dont know, but I would LOVE to see this exact weather 365 days a year. It was perfect out!!

Stardust Wrote:In Cincinnati, the temprature on the first day of July was 68. Today, it is 63. Are we sure Global Warming is for real or just another Al Gore creation?

I think that man made global warming is all about the money, a majority of these scientist recieve their funding by trying to prove global warming is real. The longer they are able to convince the general public and politicans of this, the longer they can stay on easy street.

Old School Wrote:I think that man made global warming is all about the money, a majority of these scientist recieve their funding by trying to prove global warming is real. The longer they are able to convince the general public and politicans of this, the longer they can stay on easy street.

Nice lead in Old School:

Al Gore’s campaign against global warming is shifting into high gear. Reporters and commentators follow his every move and bombard the public with notice of his activities and opinions. But while the mainstream media promote his ideas about the state of planet Earth, they are mostly silent about the dramatic impact his economic proposals would have on America. And journalists routinely ignore evidence that he may personally benefit from his programs. Would the romance fizzle if Gore’s followers realized how much their man stands to gain?

Earlier this year Gore experienced a notable public relations debacle. The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, a state think tank, revealed that he was an energy hog. Public records show that Gore’s Nashville mansion used in one month more than twice the electricity the typical American household uses in a year: His average monthly electric bill was more than $1,359. Moreover, Gore’s household energy use increased after An Inconvenient Truth, his film about global warming, was released to ecstatic reviews.

Never mind that the scientific community is divided over what causes global warming, how bad it is and how to deal with it. Gore plays Chicken Little to the media’s applause, insisting that the world is warming dangerously and that he has the solution.


The ‘Cap-and-Trade’ System

To resolve the “climate crisis,” Gore wants to put a cap on the production of greenhouse gases. He calls for an immediate freeze on U.S. emissions, a ban on new coal-fired power plants, tough new fuel-economy and energy-efficiency standards, renewable energy mandates, carbon taxes and mandatory targets and timetables for reducing greenhouse-gas emissions. Those emissions consist mostly of carbon dioxide (CO2), the byproduct of fossil fuels such as oil, coal and natural gas, which supply 85% of all U.S. energy. Gore’s blueprint to save the planet moves the United States towards a command economy in which government regulators hold sway over what kinds and amounts of energy will be made available to the private sector. His principal regulatory tool is what’s called carbon-credit trading.

Under a so-called “cap-and-trade” system, government places a ceiling or “cap” on private-sector emissions of CO2 and other “greenhouse gases.” Each sector, industry or business is allocated a fixed quantity of carbon credits that allow it to emit specific quantities of greenhouse gases. As an example, one tradable carbon credit might permit the emission of one ton of CO2. If a business emits more tons of CO2 than its supply of credits allows, it has the option to buy surplus credits from other firms -- or it will have to pay a fine in proportion to the amount of the excess emission. By contrast, businesses that emit less than their allocation can sell their excess credits.

This system, which may sound market-friendly, is something only a bureaucrat could dream up. The twist is that the carbon market exists only because the government’s imposition of a cap creates an artificial scarcity in the right to produce energy. In a cap-and-trade system, buyers will purchase their offsets from a broker or through an electronic trading platform. In Europe, carbon trading is already a reality. Since 2005, carbon offsets have been traded electronically on the European Climate Exchange (ECX).

Most carbon cap-and-trade programs also allow regulated entities to earn credits by taking actions that supposedly reduce emissions outside of the firm’s facilities or operations. In one popular version of the carbon-offset concept, firms earn credits by buying seedling trees for planting in less-developed countries. Supporters claim the CO2 intake of the trees will balance out the carbon emissions of the sponsoring firm’s industrial activity. Despite its public relations value, scientists scoff at the notion that it’s possible to plant enough trees to balance out man’s production of CO2. But carbon-offset projects are popular in the environmentalist community.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=22663

Gore’s Circle of Business

Al Gore is chairman and founder of a private equity firm called Generation Investment Management (GIM). According to Gore, the London-based firm invests money from institutions and wealthy investors in companies that are going green. “Generation Investment Management, purchases -- but isn’t a provider of -- carbon dioxide offsets,” said spokesman Richard Campbell in a March 7 report by CNSNews.

GIM appears to have considerable influence over the major carbon-credit trading firms that currently exist: the Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX) in the U.S. and the Carbon Neutral Company (CNC) in Great Britain. CCX is the only firm in the U.S. that claims to trade carbon credits.

CCX owes its existence in part to the Joyce Foundation, the Chicago-based liberal foundation that provided $347,000 in grant support in 2000 for a preliminary study to test the viability of a market in carbon credits. On the CCX board of directors is the ubiquitous Maurice Strong, a Canadian industrialist and diplomat who, since the 1970s, has helped create an international policy agenda for the environmentalist movement. Strong has described himself as “a socialist in ideology, a capitalist in methodology.” His former job titles include “senior advisor” to UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, “senior advisor” to World Bank President James Wolfensohn and board member of the United Nations Foundation, a creation of Ted Turner. The 78-year-old Strong is very close to Gore.

Another couple of blistering Summer days to prove that Global Warming is gonna get us with a high of 74 yesterday and a scorching day of 71 today.

alfus21 Wrote:I think the reason it only increased 1 degree over 100 years is probably because automobiles didn't become popular until the 1920's. Not to mention the fact that the population of the United States and World is increasing meaning there are more people to cause air pollution. So with more people, more vehicles on roads, and more factories you could most likely accurately predict that it will increase more than ever over the next 100 years.

Industrialization, deforestation, and pollution have greatly increased atmospheric concentrations of water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide, all greenhouse gases that help trap heat near Earth's surface, all of which are taking place more now than in the past.

The eight warmest years on record (since 1850) have all occurred since 1998, with the warmest year being 2005.

Average temperatures in Alaska, western Canada, and eastern Russia have risen at twice the global average, according to the multinational Arctic Climate Impact Assessment report compiled between 2000 and 2004.

This thread is hilarious because we're talking about a few cool days in July, but people fail to mention the 70 degree days in January and the fact that we hardly ever see measurable snow anymore. (Not like we used to)

I can't say for sure that humans are causing all of this, but it is real.

Your post is a poster child for global warming, which I agree with. Most people assume that because it is cooler in their area, global warming is a myth. In fact, as the icebergs melt, it screws up the sea currents, which can in fact cool a certain area while the earth is still getting warmer. Stardust is a poster child for what I just said.

Stardust Wrote:This thread was meant to be a joke, just as Global warming is. For every argument that the uninformed bring to the table, there is an argument the of the opposite. Temperatures have increased in Alaska and Russia, but the opposite has happened in Australia, where the temperatures the average temperatures have declined. In the Eastern parts of Antarctica, the thickness of freezing has been increasing over the last 25 years.

Where you live today used to be an ocean. Is it a fact that in certain parts of the world temperatures have risen, yes! But it has declined in other parts of the world. Just as oceanic water tables have increased in North America, the have increased in Africa. Yet, we always hear the doom!

:please:

The currents and levels affect different areas differently. The fact is, the icebergs at the caps are melting. The average temperature of the earth as a whole has increased.

TheRealVille Wrote:The currents and levels affect different areas differently. The fact is, the icebergs at the caps are melting. The average temperature of the earth as a whole has increased.

You know, for every fact about Global Warming, there is a myth:

While ground-level temperature measurements suggest the earth has warmed between 0.3 and 0.6 degrees Celsius since 1850, global satellite data, the most reliable of climate measure- ments, show no evidence of warming during the past 18 years.

Even if the earth's temperature has increased slightly, the increase is well within the natural range of known temperature variation over the last 15,000 years. Indeed, the earth experienced greater warming between the 10th and 15th centuries - a time when vineyards thrived in England and Vikings colonized Greenland and built settlements in Canada.

While atmospheric carbon dioxide has increased by 28 percent over the past 150 years, human-generated carbon dioxide could have played only a small part in any warming, since most of the warming occurred prior to 1940 - before most human-caused carbon dioxide emissions.

You would figure he could come up with something though. I mean, the guy DID invent the internet.:1:

C.Clair Wrote:Al Gore has no friends but the Manbearpig! He has to come up with something to make the time go by.

TidesHoss32 Wrote:You would figure he could come up with something though. I mean, the guy DID invent the internet.:1:

Without Al Gore, we would not be able to sit here, burning away on earth, and chatting about it over the internet. God Love Al Gore:Cheerlead

Stardust Wrote:In Cincinnati, the temprature on the first day of July was 68. Today, it is 63. Are we sure Global Warming is for real or just another Al Gore creation?

I don't think you can find out whether or not Global Warming is real or not because of the fact that it's cooler than what it was on the first day of July. It could just be that colder air from Canada is moving into Cincinnati for the meantime, and will eventually move out.

Deathstar 80 Wrote:I don't think you can find out whether or not Global Warming is real or not because of the fact that it's cooler than what it was on the first day of July. It could just be that colder air from Canada is moving into Cincinnati for the meantime, and will eventually move out.

lol, I'm being fecetious.....

Stardust Wrote:Without Al Gore, we would not be able to sit here, burning away on earth, and chatting about it over the internet. God Love Al Gore:Cheerlead

Stardust Wrote:lol, I'm being fecetious.....

:thatsfunn:notworthy

Stardust Wrote:lol, I'm being fecetious.....

I think Wal-mart has an ointment for that. LOL

Stardust Wrote:Without Al Gore, we would not be able to sit here, burning away on earth, and chatting about it over the internet. God Love Al Gore:Cheerlead

I too am a victom of Global cooling, just the other day I had chill bumps. They went away before I got to the E.R. I thought i was going to die. It was a close call. Global cooling is a scary thing. Seed me all your money to help pervent Global cooling.
NOT AVAILABLE NOVEMBER THRU MARCH.

bigjim4packers Wrote:I think Wal-mart has an ointment for that. LOL

bigjim4packers Wrote:I too am a victom of Global cooling, just the other day I had chill bumps. They went away before I got to the E.R. I thought i was going to die. It was a close call. Global cooling is a scary thing. Seed me all your money to help pervent Global cooling.
NOT AVAILABLE NOVEMBER THRU MARCH.

LOL, you are too cool :Thumbs: LOL

Do I think that the human race is contributing towrads this...yes, some.

But, isn't it also a fact that the earth is also getting closer to the sun as we speak. That could also be a VERY good reason for the warming.

Magnum PI Wrote:Do I think that the human race is contributing towrads this...yes, some.

But, isn't it also a fact that the earth is also getting closer to the sun as we speak. That could also be a VERY good reason for the warming.

Nah, if that was the case, that would mean that Al Gore is a complete LIAR!!!!:dontthink

Stardust Wrote:Nah, if that was the case, that would mean that Al Gore is a complete LIAR!!!!:dontthink

NEVER!!!!!!!!hh: