TidesHoss32 Wrote:Obama regularly supported gun-control measures, including a ban on semiautomatic "assault weapons" and a limit on handgun purchases to one a month.
He also opposed letting people use a self-defense argument if charged with violating local handgun bans by using weapons in their homes. The bill was a reaction to a Chicago-area man who, after shooting an intruder, was charged with a handgun violation.
Supporters framed the issue as a fundamental question of whether homeowners have the right to protect themselves.
Obama joined several Chicago Democrats who argued the measure could open loopholes letting gun owners use their weapons on the street. They said local governments should have the final say, but the self-defense exception passed 41-16 and ultimately became state law.
"It's bad politics to be on the wrong side of the Second Amendment come election time," said Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association. "It will certainly be talked about. You can take that to the bank."
On the other hand, Obama parted company with gun control advocates when he backed a measure to let retired police officers and military police carry concealed weapons.
Obama occasionally supported higher taxes, joining other Democrats in pushing to raise more than 300 taxes and fees on businesses in 2004 to help solve a budget deficit. The increases passed the Senate 30-28.
Here's the link; And no, its not from Fox
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/1...9157.shtml
Read the whole thing. You can call it "smear tactics", whatever you want, but your a typical new age democrat. And you would eat **** from the hands they put in front of your face. And it is widely RUMORED, that he took his oath on a qu'ran. I never said it to be fact. And another thing, I never said I liked McCain. This is truly an election to where you dont pick the best candidate, you pick the least worst. I was a Fred Thompson man, but he was the only, and I repeat, the ONLY candidate I LIKED. I dont like McCain, but I'd rather have him in there than somebody who stands shoulder to shoulder with such garbage as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
Pretty good article, offers positives and negatives on Obama.
OBama is widely known as just being moderate on Gun Control issues, I believe the NRA gave him an F grading, and McCain got a C, so it seems both leading candidates aren't overly friendly to gun owners. Ron Paul got a B grading, but we dont see gun owners running out in droves to vote for him. Obama has got a very limited voting record, and I think that reflects his bad rating from the NRA. But the NRA gives everyone that doesn't vote exactly how the like a bad rating.
IMO The first issue of banning semi-automatic weapons and limiting gun purchases to one a month wouldn't really affect most gun owners. Trying to keep semi-automatic weapons off the streets of Chicago could possibly lead to less crime, so I could see why he would vote that way.
I dont fully understand the self defense issue, and I don't know what bans they would be violating, so I'll have to look that up before I respond to it.
Lets not forget that during his term as a state senator he was under a republican controlled senate, so things passed during that time where do to republicans, and not a crazy, gun hating liberal. And from reading the article it seems people respected him.
Here is a couple quotes from the article:
"He was looked upon by members of both parties as someone whose view we listened carefully to," said Republican state Sen. Kirk Dillard from Hinsdale, Ill.
"He always wants to understand an issue and think it through," said Roberta Lynch, deputy director for Council 31 of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. "You have to make your case no matter who you are."
Even when he was in the political minority, Obama sometimes played a critical role. He helped write one of the rare ethics laws in a state known for government corruption and worked on welfare reform with Republicans.
I think it would be great to have someone who is known to cross party lines. So far Obama has really done very little that could be used negatively against him, so people are digging deep and resorting to smear tactics to make him look bad.
A lot of things are RUMORED, but all of these rumors on Obama have been debunked time and time again, and you would know that if you looked those issues up.
Regarding your comments to me, I really don't care what you think of my personal views, as we disagree on everything. Ive stated before and I will state it again, I don't listen to any political pundit, or take things face value from any candidate or party, I do my own research and have formed my views from that, if you don't like those views, then fine, thats your opinion.
Ive always been told to believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear.
Here is a pretty good article, with quotes from Obama, It gives you a looks at the issues of banning semi-automatic weapons, keeping guns out of the inner city, and other gun related issues.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_O...ontrol.htm
To be fair, here is the same site with quotes from McCain.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/John_McC...ontrol.htm