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Huh huh huh..."dumb people"...huh huh huh, uh huh huh *Butthead voice*
(03-13-2021, 12:43 AM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]^^^Lol Trump would have had you $2000 six months ago. You guys are too ignorant to realize you got conned. And your president is the laughing stock of the world.

He was President 6 months ago.  I missed that check.

Looks like Democrats are taking on some gun bills next. 

Stay with the popular initiatives of filling in background check loopholes and shoring up red flags laws and Americans will be supporting Democrat decisions again.  

I would like to see some infrastructure action, and maybe that is happening with the rumblings of the China bill that is floating around.
(03-13-2021, 10:08 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2021, 12:43 AM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]^^^Lol Trump would have had you $2000 six months ago. You guys are too ignorant to realize you got conned. And your president is the laughing stock of the world.

He was President 6 months ago.  I missed that check.

Looks like Democrats are taking on some gun bills next. 

Stay with the popular initiatives of filling in background check loopholes and shoring up red flags laws and Americans will be supporting Democrat decisions again.  

I would like to see some infrastructure action, and maybe that is happening with the rumblings of the China bill that is floating around.
You cannot seem to make a post that does not include a reference to the former president.
(03-13-2021, 10:38 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2021, 10:08 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2021, 12:43 AM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]^^^Lol Trump would have had you $2000 six months ago. You guys are too ignorant to realize you got conned. And your president is the laughing stock of the world.

He was President 6 months ago.  I missed that check.

Looks like Democrats are taking on some gun bills next. 

Stay with the popular initiatives of filling in background check loopholes and shoring up red flags laws and Americans will be supporting Democrat decisions again.  

I would like to see some infrastructure action, and maybe that is happening with the rumblings of the China bill that is floating around.
You cannot seem to make a post that does not include a reference to the former president.
Wrong again. I posted a response and then posted a few minutes later with commentary that had something to do with the thread.
https://www.npr.org/2021/04/01/983470782...cture-plan

This country has needed infrastructure investment for decades. Biden won’t get all he wants, but this plan will be popular with Americans.
^^^Too dumb to remember the "shovel ready projects" under Obama that never happened. Will only be popular with liars and idiots.
(04-02-2021, 08:23 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]^^^Too dumb to remember the "shovel ready projects" under Obama that never happened. Will only be popular with liars and idiots.

I remember Obama didn’t produce. Trump didn’t produce. W didn’t produce. Somebody would have to help me with Clinton, but I lean toward no.  

American infrastructure has been on the back burner for at least a half a century.  

JP, what you gonna say when it passes and does what it’s supposed to do?  more crow?
(04-02-2021, 09:14 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2021, 08:23 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]^^^Too dumb to remember the "shovel ready projects" under Obama that never happened. Will only be popular with liars and idiots.

I remember Obama didn’t produce. Trump didn’t produce. W didn’t produce. Somebody would have to help me with Clinton, but I lean toward no.  

American infrastructure has been on the back burner for at least a half a century.  

JP, what you gonna say when it passes and does what it’s supposed to do?  more crow?
There has to be some crow before there is more crow. You admit it has failed under every president you know but you somehow have faith they will get it done this time.  Government (yes both sides) counts on having enough gullible sheep like you to keep their power. None of them give one sh!t about your roads and bridges. 

But if this money is spent like they promise, I will gladly eat crow. Never happen in a million years though, and everyone knows it.
The people who pass the bill will never even spend 5 minutes actually reading it.
(04-02-2021, 10:25 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2021, 09:14 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2021, 08:23 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]^^^Too dumb to remember the "shovel ready projects" under Obama that never happened. Will only be popular with liars and idiots.

I remember Obama didn’t produce. Trump didn’t produce. W didn’t produce. Somebody would have to help me with Clinton, but I lean toward no.  

American infrastructure has been on the back burner for at least a half a century.  

JP, what you gonna say when it passes and does what it’s supposed to do?  more crow?
There has to be some crow before there is more crow. You admit it has failed under every president you know but you somehow have faith they will get it done this time.  Government (yes both sides) counts on having enough gullible sheep like you to keep their power. None of them give one sh!t about your roads and bridges. 

But if this money is spent like they promise, I will gladly eat crow. Never happen in a million years though, and everyone knows it.
The people who pass the bill will never even spend 5 minutes actually reading it.
Really? 
Never pulled the lever for a anybody who’s served two terms.  Bet you can’t say the same. 

This is a massive infrastructure bill.  It’s in its formative phase. We will see where it ends up.
(04-02-2021, 11:15 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2021, 10:25 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2021, 09:14 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2021, 08:23 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]^^^Too dumb to remember the "shovel ready projects" under Obama that never happened. Will only be popular with liars and idiots.

I remember Obama didn’t produce. Trump didn’t produce. W didn’t produce. Somebody would have to help me with Clinton, but I lean toward no.  

American infrastructure has been on the back burner for at least a half a century.  

JP, what you gonna say when it passes and does what it’s supposed to do?  more crow?
There has to be some crow before there is more crow. You admit it has failed under every president you know but you somehow have faith they will get it done this time.  Government (yes both sides) counts on having enough gullible sheep like you to keep their power. None of them give one sh!t about your roads and bridges. 

But if this money is spent like they promise, I will gladly eat crow. Never happen in a million years though, and everyone knows it.
The people who pass the bill will never even spend 5 minutes actually reading it.
Really? 
Never pulled the lever for a anybody who’s served two terms.  Bet you can’t say the same. 

This is a massive infrastructure bill.  It’s in its formative phase. We will see where it ends up.
LOL Dems are already telling you where the money is going, you know, like Obama did???
But by all means let's keep up with it, and please don't post communist run media on here or Maddow or CNN, and before you say it I won't post anything from Fox. If you are betting on Washington DC be sure to buy a lottery ticket so at least your life will be improved if by some miracle you are right. But you won't be right.
This guy here hit the nail on the head

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2...rpt-478506
(03-06-2021, 03:07 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-06-2021, 02:47 PM)vector#1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-06-2021, 02:40 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-06-2021, 02:25 PM)vector#1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-06-2021, 01:39 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]Welp...I’m done with Bipartisanship Dodgy 
Dems have wavered to GOP and still NO votes from the right.

So...

Democrat leadership just needs to ask Joe Manchin what he will vote for and do it.
Will you do $11 minimum wage, Joe? Ok pass it.
Joe, can we wipe out 25k student loans and redesign a program for public service. Ok pass it.
What will you do on infrastructure, Joe?

Etc.. etc..etc..
What does WV need, Joe?
Well WV is one of the most Government Dependent States in the country but they vote for the ones who wants to take it away
But it's a pattern for red states they always vote for the ones who want to take there money
West Virginia turned red because Obama and Biden did everything possible to destroy the coal mining industry. If you were ever really a coal miner, you would understand why most West Virginians are still very angry with the Democrats and why Joe Manchin can't vote in lockstep with the socialist/communist wing of your party.
Quooter the Dear Leader said he was going to put the coal miners back to work 
Guess what he LIED Quooter
Liar. West Virginia coal mining jobs increased under the Trump administration from 2017 through 2019. (I'm not sure if COVID impacted the 2020 jobs or not.) A real coal miner would understand how difficult it is to reopen coal mines after they have been closed and coal miners have been forced to find other jobs. It is difficult to justify reopening mines when an election can saddle the industry with a job killing president like China Joe. West Virginians have good reason to hate Obama, Hillary, and Biden. They went to war with the coal industry and West Virginians lost.

Coal Comeback? Coal At New Low After Two Years Under Trump | WVPB (wvpublic.org)


Trump’s promise to put coal miners back to work was a failure — Quartz (qz.com)

But, the data tell a different story. The number of people employed by the coal mining industry has fallen 15% since Trump took office in January 2017. Despite job losses that temporarily stabilized during his years in office, according to US Bureau of Labor Statistics Data, the trend is continuing. Jobs did not increase, 
[color=var(--color-accent, #168dd9)]unhelped by[/color] Trump’s trade wars and unsuccessful efforts to use the Defense Production Act to [color=var(--color-accent, #168dd9)]prop up coal plants[/color], before the pandemic curtailed coal demand and employment.
(04-03-2021, 12:42 PM)The Outsider Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-06-2021, 03:07 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-06-2021, 02:47 PM)vector#1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-06-2021, 02:40 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-06-2021, 02:25 PM)vector#1 Wrote: [ -> ]Well WV is one of the most Government Dependent States in the country but they vote for the ones who wants to take it away
But it's a pattern for red states they always vote for the ones who want to take there money
West Virginia turned red because Obama and Biden did everything possible to destroy the coal mining industry. If you were ever really a coal miner, you would understand why most West Virginians are still very angry with the Democrats and why Joe Manchin can't vote in lockstep with the socialist/communist wing of your party.
Quooter the Dear Leader said he was going to put the coal miners back to work 
Guess what he LIED Quooter
Liar. West Virginia coal mining jobs increased under the Trump administration from 2017 through 2019. (I'm not sure if COVID impacted the 2020 jobs or not.) A real coal miner would understand how difficult it is to reopen coal mines after they have been closed and coal miners have been forced to find other jobs. It is difficult to justify reopening mines when an election can saddle the industry with a job killing president like China Joe. West Virginians have good reason to hate Obama, Hillary, and Biden. They went to war with the coal industry and West Virginians lost.

Coal Comeback? Coal At New Low After Two Years Under Trump | WVPB (wvpublic.org)


Trump’s promise to put coal miners back to work was a failure — Quartz (qz.com)

But, the data tell a different story. The number of people employed by the coal mining industry has fallen 15% since Trump took office in January 2017. Despite job losses that temporarily stabilized during his years in office, according to US Bureau of Labor Statistics Data, the trend is continuing. Jobs did not increase, 
[color=var(--color-accent, #168dd9)]unhelped by[/color] Trump’s trade wars and unsuccessful efforts to use the Defense Production Act to [color=var(--color-accent, #168dd9)]prop up coal plants[/color], before the pandemic curtailed coal demand and employment.
Quooter doesn't have a clue he is still waiting on the horse and buggy to make a comeback
(04-02-2021, 11:24 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2021, 11:15 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2021, 10:25 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2021, 09:14 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2021, 08:23 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]^^^Too dumb to remember the "shovel ready projects" under Obama that never happened. Will only be popular with liars and idiots.

I remember Obama didn’t produce. Trump didn’t produce. W didn’t produce. Somebody would have to help me with Clinton, but I lean toward no.  

American infrastructure has been on the back burner for at least a half a century.  

JP, what you gonna say when it passes and does what it’s supposed to do?  more crow?
There has to be some crow before there is more crow. You admit it has failed under every president you know but you somehow have faith they will get it done this time.  Government (yes both sides) counts on having enough gullible sheep like you to keep their power. None of them give one sh!t about your roads and bridges. 

But if this money is spent like they promise, I will gladly eat crow. Never happen in a million years though, and everyone knows it.
The people who pass the bill will never even spend 5 minutes actually reading it.
Really? 
Never pulled the lever for a anybody who’s served two terms.  Bet you can’t say the same. 

This is a massive infrastructure bill.  It’s in its formative phase. We will see where it ends up.
LOL Dems are already telling you where the money is going, you know, like Obama did???
But by all means let's keep up with it, and please don't post communist run media on here or Maddow or CNN, and before you say it I won't post anything from Fox. If you are betting on Washington DC be sure to buy a lottery ticket so at least your life will be improved if by some miracle you are right. But you won't be right.

the broadband plan should be a boon for Ky. Also the pipes plan. Plus the bridge plan. Hell, KY will come out pretty well considering how much we put into this nation.  

TBH, they should cut us off until we quit voting Cocaine Mitch and Rand Boucher in office.
House passed DC statehood this week. Of course there is an uphill battle in the Senate.
Say what you will there are nearly a million people with no federal representation in Congress. That doesn’t match the democratic principles this country was founded on.
You can't even post population without lying. Population would have to increase by 40% to be a million.
(04-24-2021, 01:36 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]You can't even post population without lying. Population would have to increase by 40% to be a million.

Big Grin My bad.  Nearly is too specific for you. 

Got any comment on the actual issue at hand or you want talk about my grammar and mechanics next?
(04-24-2021, 12:04 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]House passed DC statehood this week. Of course there is an uphill battle in the Senate. 
Say what you will there are nearly a million people with no federal representation in Congress. That doesn’t match the democratic principles this country was founded on.


Please! Trusting what you say about the principles this country was founded on is like trusting Bernie Madoff with one's retirement investments. One minute you're on here saying the founders were all a bunch of white supremacists, and the next you're citing those same founders as the guideline for usurping the vision of... wait for it.... The FOUNDERS. Your only consideration is liberalism. You only cite the constitution when it suits whatever liberal argument you may be making at the time. And even then your citing is based on the liberal distortion du jour. DNC talking points in other words.

MARCH 22, 2021 before the US Congress
The Testimony of Roger Pilon; vice president for legal affairs emeritus at the Cato Institute and the founding director emeritus of Cato’s Center for Constitutional Studies: now holding Cato’s B. Kenneth Simon Chair in Constitutional Studies.

In discussing James Madison's Federalist 43 essay on the seat of government as it relates to statehood, citing the following:

"The indispensable necessity of complete authority at the seat of government, carries its own evidence with it. It is a power exercised by every legislature of the Union, I might say of the world, by virtue of its general supremacy. Without it, not only the public authority might be insulted and its proceedings interrupted with impunity; but a dependence of the members of the general government on the State comprehending the seat of the government, for protection in the exercise of their duty, might bring on the national councils an imputation of awe or influence, equally dishonorable to the government and dissatisfactory to the other members of the Confederacy." --- James Madison

"Independency runs through Madison’s explanation: It was imperative that the federal government not be dependent on any one of the states, and equally that no state be either dependent on the federal government or disproportionately influential on that government. Neither of those objectives would be met under this bill." ---Roger Pilon
https://www.cato.org/testimony/making-dc...ions-hr-51

There was a Western that came out in 1985 entitled 'Silverado.' Brian Dennehy plays the part of a bad guy who somehow gets himself appointed Sheriff of the town of Silverado. At the movie's opening he meets up with a former gang member who'd just gotten out of jail, bad guy Dennehy opens his jacket to reveal his Sheriff's badge saying--- "Welcome to heaven."

The founders knew better than to allow the seat of government  to be beholden to any one state, much less allow the seat of government to BECOME  a state.

Oh and Cardfan, saying the residents of DC don't have representation in the Congress is like saying the stewardesses on an airliner don't have a pilot. Absurd rationale.
(04-24-2021, 02:27 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2021, 01:36 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]You can't even post population without lying. Population would have to increase by 40% to be a million.

Big Grin My bad.  Nearly is too specific for you. 

Got any comment on the actual issue at hand or you want talk about my grammar and mechanics next?
So a half million is more accurate than a million. The point was and is that you can't even tell the truth about population. And needing a 40% increase isn't "nearly"
(04-24-2021, 02:34 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2021, 12:04 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]House passed DC statehood this week. Of course there is an uphill battle in the Senate. 
Say what you will there are nearly a million people with no federal representation in Congress. That doesn’t match the democratic principles this country was founded on.


Please! Trusting what you say about the principles this country was founded on is like trusting Bernie Madoff with one's retirement investments. One minute you're on here saying the founders were all a bunch of white supremacists, and the next you're citing those same founders as the guideline for usurping the vision of... wait for it.... The FOUNDERS. Your only consideration is liberalism. You only cite the constitution when it suits whatever liberal argument you may be making at the time. And even then your citing is based on the liberal distortion du jour. DNC talking points in other words.

MARCH 22, 2021 before the US Congress
The Testimony of Roger Pilon; vice president for legal affairs emeritus at the Cato Institute and the founding director emeritus of Cato’s Center for Constitutional Studies: now holding Cato’s B. Kenneth Simon Chair in Constitutional Studies.

In discussing James Madison's Federalist 43 essay on the seat of government as it relates to statehood, citing the following:

"The indispensable necessity of complete authority at the seat of government, carries its own evidence with it. It is a power exercised by every legislature of the Union, I might say of the world, by virtue of its general supremacy. Without it, not only the public authority might be insulted and its proceedings interrupted with impunity; but a dependence of the members of the general government on the State comprehending the seat of the government, for protection in the exercise of their duty, might bring on the national councils an imputation of awe or influence, equally dishonorable to the government and dissatisfactory to the other members of the Confederacy." --- James Madison

"Independency runs through Madison’s explanation: It was imperative that the federal government not be dependent on any one of the states, and equally that no state be either dependent on the federal government or disproportionately influential on that government. Neither of those objectives would be met under this bill." ---Roger Pilon
https://www.cato.org/testimony/making-dc...ions-hr-51

There was a Western that came out in 1985 entitled 'Silverado.' Brian Dennehy plays the part of a bad guy who somehow gets himself appointed Sheriff of the town of Silverado. At the movie's opening he meets up with a former gang member who'd just gotten out of jail, bad guy Dennehy opens his jacket to reveal his Sheriff's badge saying--- "Welcome to heaven."

The founders knew better than to allow the seat of government  to be beholden to any one state, much less allow the seat of government to BECOME  a state.

Oh and Cardfan, saying the residents of DC don't have representation in the Congress is like saying the stewardesses on an airliner don't have a pilot. Absurd rationale.
Democrats don't have principles. On any issue, they will always argue whichever position that gives them more power. Simple as that.
(04-24-2021, 02:34 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2021, 12:04 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]House passed DC statehood this week. Of course there is an uphill battle in the Senate. 
Say what you will there are nearly a million people with no federal representation in Congress. That doesn’t match the democratic principles this country was founded on.


Please! Trusting what you say about the principles this country was founded on is like trusting Bernie Madoff with one's retirement investments. One minute you're on here saying the founders were all a bunch of white supremacists, and the next you're citing those same founders as the guideline for usurping the vision of... wait for it.... The FOUNDERS. Your only consideration is liberalism. You only cite the constitution when it suits whatever liberal argument you may be making at the time. And even then your citing is based on the liberal distortion du jour. DNC talking points in other words.

MARCH 22, 2021 before the US Congress
The Testimony of Roger Pilon; vice president for legal affairs emeritus at the Cato Institute and the founding director emeritus of Cato’s Center for Constitutional Studies: now holding Cato’s B. Kenneth Simon Chair in Constitutional Studies.

In discussing James Madison's Federalist 43 essay on the seat of government as it relates to statehood, citing the following:

"The indispensable necessity of complete authority at the seat of government, carries its own evidence with it. It is a power exercised by every legislature of the Union, I might say of the world, by virtue of its general supremacy. Without it, not only the public authority might be insulted and its proceedings interrupted with impunity; but a dependence of the members of the general government on the State comprehending the seat of the government, for protection in the exercise of their duty, might bring on the national councils an imputation of awe or influence, equally dishonorable to the government and dissatisfactory to the other members of the Confederacy." --- James Madison

"Independency runs through Madison’s explanation: It was imperative that the federal government not be dependent on any one of the states, and equally that no state be either dependent on the federal government or disproportionately influential on that government. Neither of those objectives would be met under this bill." ---Roger Pilon
https://www.cato.org/testimony/making-dc...ions-hr-51

There was a Western that came out in 1985 entitled 'Silverado.' Brian Dennehy plays the part of a bad guy who somehow gets himself appointed Sheriff of the town of Silverado. At the movie's opening he meets up with a former gang member who'd just gotten out of jail, bad guy Dennehy opens his jacket to reveal his Sheriff's badge saying--- "Welcome to heaven."

The founders knew better than to allow the seat of government  to be beholden to any one state, much less allow the seat of government to BECOME  a state.

Oh and Cardfan, saying the residents of DC don't have representation in the Congress is like saying the stewardesses on an airliner don't have a pilot. Absurd rationale.
How long did it take you to cook up that gobbledygook?  

or was it just copy and paste from some hooplehead you follow? Big Grin  



“The federal government owns 28.51 percent of Washington's total land, 12,173,814 acres out of 42,693,760 total acres.” 

if successful the federal owned land and buildings can be the Capitol and the rest can be the state of DC. Shrink the federal footprint. If they need some help carving ridiculous boundaries there are several GOP state legislatures can show them how Big Grin  See Texas and Dan crenshaw’s district. 

FWIW, the federal govt owns more of Wyoming, Nevada, and few other states than it does if Washington D.C. 


Cool  try again.
(04-24-2021, 01:36 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]You can't even post population without lying. Population would have to increase by 40% to be a million.
They still have more people than Wyoming and Vermont so what's your point ?

(04-24-2021, 02:27 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2021, 01:36 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]You can't even post population without lying. Population would have to increase by 40% to be a million.

Big Grin My bad.  Nearly is too specific for you. 

Got any comment on the actual issue at hand or you want talk about my grammar and mechanics next?
That's the way they roll if NO answer duck, dodge, and criticize there good at it give them credit for that must be where they have had a lot experience

(04-24-2021, 02:54 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2021, 02:27 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2021, 01:36 PM)jetpilot Wrote: [ -> ]You can't even post population without lying. Population would have to increase by 40% to be a million.

Big Grin My bad.  Nearly is too specific for you. 

Got any comment on the actual issue at hand or you want talk about my grammar and mechanics next?
So a half million is more accurate than a million. The point was and is that you can't even tell the truth about population. And needing a 40% increase isn't "nearly"
700,000 is close to the numbers

(04-24-2021, 03:00 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2021, 02:34 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2021, 12:04 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]House passed DC statehood this week. Of course there is an uphill battle in the Senate. 
Say what you will there are nearly a million people with no federal representation in Congress. That doesn’t match the democratic principles this country was founded on.


Please! Trusting what you say about the principles this country was founded on is like trusting Bernie Madoff with one's retirement investments. One minute you're on here saying the founders were all a bunch of white supremacists, and the next you're citing those same founders as the guideline for usurping the vision of... wait for it.... The FOUNDERS. Your only consideration is liberalism. You only cite the constitution when it suits whatever liberal argument you may be making at the time. And even then your citing is based on the liberal distortion du jour. DNC talking points in other words.

MARCH 22, 2021 before the US Congress
The Testimony of Roger Pilon; vice president for legal affairs emeritus at the Cato Institute and the founding director emeritus of Cato’s Center for Constitutional Studies: now holding Cato’s B. Kenneth Simon Chair in Constitutional Studies.

In discussing James Madison's Federalist 43 essay on the seat of government as it relates to statehood, citing the following:

"The indispensable necessity of complete authority at the seat of government, carries its own evidence with it. It is a power exercised by every legislature of the Union, I might say of the world, by virtue of its general supremacy. Without it, not only the public authority might be insulted and its proceedings interrupted with impunity; but a dependence of the members of the general government on the State comprehending the seat of the government, for protection in the exercise of their duty, might bring on the national councils an imputation of awe or influence, equally dishonorable to the government and dissatisfactory to the other members of the Confederacy." --- James Madison

"Independency runs through Madison’s explanation: It was imperative that the federal government not be dependent on any one of the states, and equally that no state be either dependent on the federal government or disproportionately influential on that government. Neither of those objectives would be met under this bill." ---Roger Pilon
https://www.cato.org/testimony/making-dc...ions-hr-51

There was a Western that came out in 1985 entitled 'Silverado.' Brian Dennehy plays the part of a bad guy who somehow gets himself appointed Sheriff of the town of Silverado. At the movie's opening he meets up with a former gang member who'd just gotten out of jail, bad guy Dennehy opens his jacket to reveal his Sheriff's badge saying--- "Welcome to heaven."

The founders knew better than to allow the seat of government  to be beholden to any one state, much less allow the seat of government to BECOME  a state.

Oh and Cardfan, saying the residents of DC don't have representation in the Congress is like saying the stewardesses on an airliner don't have a pilot. Absurd rationale.
How long did it take you to cook up that gobbledygook?  

or was it just copy and paste from some hooplehead you follow? Big Grin  



“The federal government owns 28.51 percent of Washington's total land, 12,173,814 acres out of 42,693,760 total acres.” 

if successful the federal owned land and buildings can be the Capitol and the rest can be the state of DC. Shrink the federal footprint. If they need some help carving ridiculous boundaries there are several GOP state legislatures can show them how Big Grin  See Texas and Dan crenshaw’s district. 

FWIW, the federal govt owns more of Wyoming, Nevada, and few other states than it does if Washington D.C. 


Cool  try again.
I bet he comes back with some kind of criticism or a couple of bible versus
The right thing to do is DC statehood. Both parties need to get off their asses and reach voters if they want those coveted seats. Win elections.

Trump and GOP did that to the “blue wall” in 2016 as HRC took it for granted. Happened to Republicans this year in Arizona and Georgia.

Nuclear option will be needed to pass in the Senate which will
make this summer very interesting in Washington DC and WV.
(04-24-2021, 03:24 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]The right thing to do is DC statehood. Both parties need to get off their asses and reach voters if they want those coveted seats. Win elections.

Trump and GOP did that to the “blue wall” in 2016 as HRC took it for granted.  Happened to Republicans this year in Arizona and Georgia.

Nuclear option will be needed to pass in the Senate which will
make this summer very interesting in Washington DC and WV.
BUT Dear Leader couldn't do it without the help from the Russians and Comey
(04-24-2021, 03:24 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]The right thing to do is DC statehood. Both parties need to get off their asses and reach voters if they want those coveted seats. Win elections.

Trump and GOP did that to the “blue wall” in 2016 as HRC took it for granted.  Happened to Republicans this year in Arizona and Georgia.

Nuclear option will be needed to pass in the Senate which will
make this summer very interesting in Washington DC and WV.

I learned my civics in school, not on twit-ter.

If you're typing you're lying. The right thing to do was outlined by James Madison. The Federalist Papers were written to shed further light on various aspects of the founding documents and what was hammered out by the founders at the Constitutional Convention.

The people who work and live in DC get paid very well. So well in fact they would scarcely even consider moving anywhere else. They aren't the least bit concerned about representation now or were they in the past. It's a liberal rationale dreamed up by the same guys who back in 2010 tried to act all tore up about homosexuals who served the nation in the military, but could not legally secure a same sex marriage. The argument was nothing more than a hollow lie. Just as is this idea that ONLY police departments are supposedly systemically racist. If racism exists, it exists across the board.

That means there are racist doctors, lawyers, school teachers, pharmacists, tradesmen, truck drivers and restaurant workers etc. etc. Even racist liberals. The nuclear option cannot be used to override the two thirds majority needed.
(04-24-2021, 03:29 PM)vector#1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2021, 03:24 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]The right thing to do is DC statehood. Both parties need to get off their asses and reach voters if they want those coveted seats. Win elections.

Trump and GOP did that to the “blue wall” in 2016 as HRC took it for granted.  Happened to Republicans this year in Arizona and Georgia.

Nuclear option will be needed to pass in the Senate which will
make this summer very interesting in Washington DC and WV.
BUT Dear Leader couldn't do it without the help from the Russians and Comey
True but Hillary not visiting the states didn’t help. She started running the four corners offense way too early in the half.
(04-24-2021, 03:48 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2021, 03:24 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]The right thing to do is DC statehood. Both parties need to get off their asses and reach voters if they want those coveted seats. Win elections.

Trump and GOP did that to the “blue wall” in 2016 as HRC took it for granted.  Happened to Republicans this year in Arizona and Georgia.

Nuclear option will be needed to pass in the Senate which will
make this summer very interesting in Washington DC and WV.

I learned my civics in school, not on twit-ter.

If you're typing you're lying. The right thing to do was outlined by James Madison. The Federalist Papers were written to shed further light on various aspects of the founding documents and what was hammered out by the founders at the Constitutional Convention.

The people who work and live in DC get paid very well. So well in fact they would scarcely even consider moving anywhere else. They aren't the least bit concerned about representation now or were they in the past. It's a liberal rationale dreamed up by the same guys who back in 2010 tried to act all tore up about homosexuals who served the nation in the military, but could not legally secure a same sex marriage. The argument was nothing more than a hollow lie. Just as is this idea that ONLY police departments are supposedly systemically racist. If racism exists, it exists across the board.

That means there are racist doctors, lawyers, school teachers, pharmacists, tradesmen, truck drivers and restaurant workers etc. etc. Even racist liberals. The nuclear option cannot be used to override the two thirds majority needed.
Wasn't the capitol in NY for about 10 years ? It can be moved then.
(04-24-2021, 03:48 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-24-2021, 03:24 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]The right thing to do is DC statehood. Both parties need to get off their asses and reach voters if they want those coveted seats. Win elections.

Trump and GOP did that to the “blue wall” in 2016 as HRC took it for granted.  Happened to Republicans this year in Arizona and Georgia.

Nuclear option will be needed to pass in the Senate which will
make this summer very interesting in Washington DC and WV.

I learned my civics in school, not on twit-ter.

If you're typing you're lying. The right thing to do was outlined by James Madison. The Federalist Papers were written to shed further light on various aspects of the founding documents and what was hammered out by the founders at the Constitutional Convention.

The people who work and live in DC get paid very well. So well in fact they would scarcely even consider moving anywhere else. They aren't the least bit concerned about representation now or were they in the past. It's a liberal rationale dreamed up by the same guys who back in 2010 tried to act all tore up about homosexuals who served the nation in the military, but could not legally secure a same sex marriage. The argument was nothing more than a hollow lie. Just as is this idea that ONLY police departments are supposedly systemically racist. If racism exists, it exists across the board.

That means there are racist doctors, lawyers, school teachers, pharmacists, tradesmen, truck drivers and restaurant workers etc. etc. Even racist liberals. The nuclear option cannot be used to override the two thirds majority needed.
The one thing I have in common with your Dear Leader; neither of us are on Twitter Big Grin . 

What civics are you talking about? Since the Madison helped pen the Federalist papers there have been a few dozen states added. Some were simply for the very political reasons you’re accusing democrats of.  

You spout some ridiculousness, but that is a top 10 doozy.  If you make money you don’t want representation?  
Wars have been fought over representation.  Everyone values it.  


Sidebar:  why the hell are you talking about racism and homosexuality?  Is your argument against DC statehood so weak you’ve started to malfunction and just spout base bigoted conservative talking points?
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