Does the 2 KHSAA bylaw amendments that Henry Webb got passed affect any transfers this Spring or summer?
Amendment 1: No student who is not enrolled at the school holding open gym can go to another school's open gym. Reason: Cuts down on recruiting.
Amendment 2: No student can practice or play during summer time with another school if they are not enrolled there and ruled eligible. Reason: Cuts down on players seeing if they can play on another team, like a tryout period and recruiting.
Are these NEW amendments to KHSAA bylaws good or bad for high school programs?
I think summer ball needs to be banned anyway. The three big sports need to be regulated to one month prior and after the length of the season. This year round baseball and basketball are ruining young athletes, and robbing them of the joy of playing multiple sports.
These are not official yet but will be
These 2 amendments ARE confirmed and in place.
They were voted on by all schools around the state during November and approved at the January board of control meeting.
If you want to know who voted, here you go.
Results of Referendum
The Board of Control directed two issues be submitted to the membership via referendum and such
was done following the November meeting. Both issues received the requisite vote.
Motion Passed: Approve the results of the referendum and recommend adoption by the Kentucky
Board of Education as part of the 2017 regulation promulgation documents passed with a motion by
Jeff Saylor and a second by John Barnes. John Barnes Yes, Debbie Beichler Yes, Darrell Billings
Yes, Carrell Boyd Yes, Donna Bumps Yes, Mike Clines Absent, Mike Deaton Absent, Mark Evans
Yes, Pete Galloway Yes, Scott Hawkins Yes, Scott Lewis Yes, Marlon Miller Yes, Chris O'Hearn
Yes, Kim Parker-Brown Yes, Gwen Saylor Yes, Jeff Saylor Yes, Henry Webb Yes, Jerry Wyman.
I like it and it will be a good rule.
Here is my amendment; The whole month of June and first week of July DEAD PERIOD.
Single Wing 77 Wrote:I think summer ball needs to be banned anyway. The three big sports need to be regulated to one month prior and after the length of the season. This year round baseball and basketball are ruining young athletes, and robbing them of the joy of playing multiple sports.
You only named two sports ruining young athletes and going year round. Didn't include football with weights and playoffs that go forever.
There we go, let's take away something that the kids look forward to every summer because the adults try to one up one another. if it wasn't for summer ball and staying in some kind of sports shape our student athletes would struggle with staying interested in sports and would be more injury prone also. As far as multiple sports goes , students usually pick two or three sports to play for there schools but yes they choose there best or favorite sport in high school to play in the summers. Play bring key word . It is for fun and enjoyment of the student athletes!
oldgrouch Wrote:You only named two sports ruining young athletes and going year round. Didn't include football with weights and playoffs that go forever.
There are between 10 and 15 football games played each year. Throw in the bye week and it is a 16 week season, for a total of 12 teams. Everyone else in the state has less than a 16 week season. Two thirds of the state have a 12 week or less season. Add in four extra weeks of practice which is more than football teams actually get, and it is exactly one third of the year. There are no travel football teams and there are no aau football teams. Weightlifting is a part of every sport. Track and field lift weights. I'll leave football off because it's the only sport that doesn't play games during the season of the other sports. Fall baseball, and summer basketball are extra seasons that put pressure on athletes who want to play other sports. They feel that they are falling behind because they are. It's ridiculous.
Wingman Wrote:There we go, let's take away something that the kids look forward to every summer because the adults try to one up one another. if it wasn't for summer ball and staying in some kind of sports shape our student athletes would struggle with staying interested in sports and would be more injury prone also. As far as multiple sports goes , students usually pick two or three sports to play for there schools but yes they choose there best or favorite sport in high school to play in the summers. Play bring key word . It is for fun and enjoyment of the student athletes!
It's also killing the multi sport athlete. Tommy John surgeries are rising at an epidemic rate and basketball season never ends. Kids who play multiple sports shouldn't be put at a disadvantage beause another one wants to be a specialist. All the kids should get the same time in the gym regardless of whether or not they play another sport. That being said what a kid does on his own time is completely up to him or her.
So kids who want to excel at certain sports shouldn't be allowed to spend extra time on that sport if they choose to because it's not fair to the other kids who choose to either not play or choose other sports? I agree that some kids especially in baseball and such are being injured at a high rate because of over use. But, some kids are injured because of lack of physical exercise. You can't expect to come out and play during season only and not put any work in in off season and stay in some kind of shape. Knee injuries are sky rocketing right now in sports. I'm pretty sure that some of that problem, not all of the problem has to do with poor core strength of kids! Lack of physical activity. As far as what kids do on their own time, yes it's up to them it is. People should never make their kids do something they don't want to do but, look around at what kids are doing that don't keep busy in sports or don't keep busy doing something of interest to them. Look around at all the kids who are on drugs or having kids at early age. As far as I'm concerned you don't push them towards summer sports you guide them to it and make it fun and intristing to them. maybe someday our kids will get some of those scholarships to any college and get a free education of some kind at a small college because they worked hard in school, spent part of there summers in a gym working on something they love to do while staying in good shape and not out partying or on drugs.
No matter how you look at it you can't hold one kid back because the other don't want to practice or spend their time in sports because it isn't fair. Wait till they go to work one day and they try to use that one at a job! Well it's not fair they got the promotion and I didnt . They worked harder than I did and put extra time in . I was home doing something else while they were working and it's not fair!
I'm not saying the kids can't work on their own time. That's the way the real world works. If you want to be marketable then you have to work more than the other guys in your own time. I'm saying that they shouldn't have school sponsored summer basketball and fall baseball. It shouldn't be school related. If the kid really wants to put in the work, he won't need "open gym" to do it. He'll find a way. I'm not saying anything about the kids who are too lazy to come be to open gym. I'm talking about the kids who are playing baseball right now that are being punished because they're trying to win a region championship, I'm talking about the kids who will be playing football that will be punished because they chose to play football.
Don't misinterpret what I'm saying. I'm not saying that a kid who only plays one sport shouldn't be able to work on his game in the off season. I'm saying there shouldn't be organized team activities that exclude the kids playing other sports. All it does is put pressure on kids to play one sport more than the other.
I see what your saying but, how are kids suppose to do it on there time or on their own. At a park where there is no structure. I also see what your saying about being pressured to play in summer. Kids don't have to play and shouldn't be punished for not participating . But it's not the other kids fault for attending and using these summer programs to better themselves. It's just wrong to me to want to take something away that helps so many because it's not fair for the ones who really don't want to attend. And it's ok if they don't want to attend. Your also not going to get quality people "coaches" to work with our kids if their not willing to put time in to the program to get better. Again I see where your coming from but I just don't agree with your point pf view .
Like the new amendments, but what's the penalty for violation of either one?
Wingman Wrote:There we go, let's take away something that the kids look forward to every summer because the adults try to one up one another. if it wasn't for summer ball and staying in some kind of sports shape our student athletes would struggle with staying interested in sports and would be more injury prone also. As far as multiple sports goes , students usually pick two or three sports to play for there schools but yes they choose there best or favorite sport in high school to play in the summers. Play bring key word . It is for fun and enjoyment of the student athletes!
There you go very close minded , I said dead period. That has nothing to do with little league, senior league or AAU or any of some summer sports. let kids get away from SCHOOL and see what sports are about out side a 30 mile radius.
I guess I did not know the rules, I thought you had to be enrolled in a school to participate wow!!
Dead period should be sport specific. It is very unfair to baseball and softball the way it is now. There should be different dead periods for each sport.