11-27-2016, 11:58 PM
mr.fundamental Wrote: 1) - His ways are not my ways, His thoughts are not my thoughts... I remember reading that somewhere, but now I am told that I can be on par with God. Wow! That my friend is a scary thought. We have no concept of God's time, my opinion, how could a mortal understand immortality, we do know that God placed mortality on our hearts... read that somewhere too.
2) - No, I never did serve, tried, but being legally blind was a damper on joining the Air Force. My cousins, uncle, and grandfathers all served each in the Navy, two in the Army. Served in wars of Korea, Vietnam, Iraqi Freedom, and peacetime.
3) - Who has slammed anything, I give thanks to my Lord to live in a land of the free and as for me and my family we will worship Him. He asked "Do you love me?" Peter said yes you know that I do, then how did Jesus reply?
4) - Again, people condemn people by using the law, which in truth, we are all condemned. We are to love God with all of our heart, mind, and spirit. We are to love our neighbor as we are to love ourselves.
Believe me when I tell you that we're rapidly coming to the end of my willingness to play mental hop scotch with you here. Nonetheless I will indulge you once again.
1) - If you can explain to me where I even remotely suggested that you could be on par with God, I will be happy to clarity my statement. We do have the concept of how God views time, I just gave it to you. Within the entirety of the Scriptures the word mortality is used only once;
2 Corinthians 5:4 (KJV)
4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
Call me whatever, but to me that verse says that death is defeated by the unspeakable gift of 'life,' the same provided ONLY to us who have repented through His finished work on the cross. So wherever you may have read it, it wasn't the Bible.
2) - Sorry to hear that you have a vision limitation. Perhaps then you should be a bit more considerate of those who did serve when you speak of the freedoms provided through the sacrifices of others that you are grateful for, while you seemingly congratulate yourself for an opinion which disagrees with the conservative view.
3) - Admittedly you did not go on and on with criticisms of the Christian right in this thread like you did in the Jill and Hill thread. But your disdain for the historical truths of the conservative right, those you should be proud to claim as brothers in the faith, is disturbing. My apologies for generalizing. On the bolded. I know what you're trying to say here. The Church is the vehicle God chose to reach a lost world, I got that. I'm not saying we are to be vicious and vindictive and in any way judgmental. But we are to speak plainly in drawing attention to unacceptable behavior. You don't walk up to a man who is proudly 'out of the closet' out walking in a parade in San Francisco, wearing a pair of chaps with his rear end sticking out and tell him he's just like everybody else. Let's get real here.
4) - And we are to;
Ephesians 4:26-27 (KJV)
26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
27 Neither give place to the devil.
The believer is under commandment to be angered with certain conditions and certain people everyday. We are not to be sickeningly sweet under all situations. We ought to be mad about abortion everyday. We ought to be mad about the homosexual lifestyle everyday. No true believer can be neutral in the war between good and evil. We do not condemn other people using the law, the law does that on it's own through the ministry of the Holy Spirit. You know, the conscience? However pointing out the law, is the charter of the Church and the practice is done consistently in the Old and New Testaments. The real danger is in not calling out sin in a manner which falsely validates a sinful lifestyle. We are not to be all nicey-nicey, we are to be bold. None of us are better than the rest that is true. But to say that those who are saved, "new creatures in Christ," should not live a Godly lifestyle and denounce the un-Godly lifestyle is ridiculous.
No if it's all the same to you, I'll take it like as follows; Revelation 3:16 (KJV)
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.