How would you rank the regions 1-16? Here is my attempt.
1- 9th region- Three teams in the top 8 in the state.
2- 7th region- It's tough not to put the 7th as #1 with Ballard and Trinity both in the top three in the state.
3- 11th. Two teams in the top-10, 3 in the top-17. And then you have teams like Lex Cath and Bryan Station at the next tier. Brutal comes to mind.
4- 6th. Two teams in the top-14 in the state. PRP and Doss are for real.
5- 12th. Wayne and Lincoln Co are both tough.
6- 14th. Three teams ranked between 15 and 25 in the state.
7- 8th. South Oldham and Collins are both in the top-25.
8- 10th. Montgomery Co is the class of the 10th.
9- 4th. Warren Central is a heavy favorite to win the 4th.
10- 2nd. Hopkinsville at #5 and Henderson Co at #22 then huge drop-off. Two team race for the 2nd region champion.
11- 5th. E'town at #16 is the strong favorite to win the 5th.
12- 3rd. Apollo and Owensboro are the two favorites. Neither are close to top-25 teams.
13- 1st. Graves and McCracken are the favorites. Not much out in the far west this year.
14- 16th. Fleming Co is a strong favorite and they aren't very strong.
15- 13th. Lots and lots of balance but not much else at the top of the 13th this year. Knox Central and Clay Co are playing the best during the last month. Jackson Co is close behind.
16- 15th. Johnson Central will probably win the 15th. There is not a lot along the West Virginia border this year.
rojas Wrote:How would you rank the regions 1-16? Here is my attempt.
1- 9th region- Three teams in the top 8 in the state.
2- 7th region- It's tough not to put the 7th as #1 with Ballard and Trinity both in the top three in the state.
3- 11th. Two teams in the top-10, 3 in the top-17. And then you have teams like Lex Cath and Bryan Station at the next tier. Brutal comes to mind.
4- 6th. Two teams in the top-14 in the state. PRP and Doss are for real.
5- 12th. Wayne and Lincoln Co are both tough.
6- 14th. Three teams ranked between 15 and 25 in the state.
7- 8th. South Oldham and Collins are both in the top-25.
8- 10th. Montgomery Co is the class of the 10th.
9- 4th. Warren Central is a heavy favorite to win the 4th.
10- 2nd. Hopkinsville at #5 and Henderson Co at #22 then huge drop-off. Two team race for the 2nd region champion.
11- 5th. E'town at #16 is the strong favorite to win the 5th.
12- 3rd. Apollo and Owensboro are the two favorites. Neither are close to top-25 teams.
13- 1st. Graves and McCracken are the favorites. Not much out in the far west this year.
14- 16th. Fleming Co is a strong favorite and they aren't very strong.
15- 13th. Lots and lots of balance but not much else at the top of the 13th this year. Knox Central and Clay Co are playing the best during the last month. Jackson Co is close behind.
16- 15th. Johnson Central will probably win the 15th. There is not a lot along the West Virginia border this year.
15th is better than the 13th
I have to agree with you on this Rojas. Very good list! I honestly think the 14th is as good as the 6th and 12th region though. I can't say better because KCC has lost to PRP and Wayne but I think those 3 regions are real close. I think the 9th and 7th are easily 1 & 2 though.
Warthog Wrote:15th is better than the 13th
That one was a tough call. The way I see it:
Johnson Central (15) would be an solid favorite over Clay County (13).
Knox Central (13) would be solid favorite over Lawrence Co (15)
Jackson Co (13) would be a favorite over Shelby Valley (15)
Corbin (13) would be a very solid favorite over Betsy Layne (15)
While Johnson Central is better than any team in the 13th. After that the 13th is better.
ballstar Wrote:I have to agree with you on this Rojas. Very good list! I honestly think the 14th is as good as the 6th and 12th region though. I can't say better because KCC has lost to PRP and Wayne but I think those 3 regions are real close. I think the 9th and 7th are easily 1 & 2 though.
I also think the 14th is close to the 6th and 12th. The 14th is one of the state's more interesting regions. I look for Perry Central or Knott Central to come out of this one. I can't see Cordia winning it right now. Of course, Hazard has a shot.
9th, 7th and 11th will be a dog fight among the state's best.
http://www.kentucky.com/2014/02/10/30792...ating.html
The 5th Region has four teams (Elizabethtown, Bardstown, John Hardin, Taylor County) above a 70.0 rating. Fourth has three, Second only has two. Fifth region has four teams with a better rating than the No. 1 team in the First. Elizabethtown just beat the living daylights out of the top team in the Tenth (Montgomery) on a neutral floor.
As far as the Eighth, the No. 6 team (North Oldham) in the Eighth is 0-2-1 in regulation against the 5th. The No. 5 team (Shelby) lost to the No. 6 from the Fifth (Thomas Nelson). Collins faces John Hardin, so we'll get a better idea.
You can make a case for the 5th to be a top-eight region.
cksportsfan Wrote:http://www.kentucky.com/2014/02/10/30792...ating.html
The 5th Region has four teams (Elizabethtown, Bardstown, John Hardin, Taylor County) above a 70.0 rating. Fourth has three, Second only has two. Fifth region has four teams with a better rating than the No. 1 team in the First. Elizabethtown just beat the living daylights out of the top team in the Tenth (Montgomery) on a neutral floor.
As far as the Eighth, the No. 6 team (North Oldham) in the Eighth is 0-2-1 in regulation against the 5th. The No. 5 team (Shelby) lost to the No. 6 from the Fifth (Thomas Nelson). Collins faces John Hardin, so we'll get a better idea.
You can make a case for the 5th to be a top-eight region.
E'town is a solid team at 17-5 and #16 in the state. However, no other team in the 5th is even in the state's top-25 teams. The 2nd is in about the same boat as the 5th, except Hopkinsville is probably better than E'town at the #1 spot. The 4th and the 5th are also very comparable. What the 8th has that the 5th doesn't is a bit more depth at the top of the region. As far as beating the #1 team in the first, that's nothing to brag about. The top of the first is not very good.
Fifth may only have 1 in the top 25, but it has four in the top 49.
Compare that to regions you have in the Fifth's vicinity (some above, some below).
-- Fifth region has FOUR in the top 49 (Elizabethtown, John Hardin, Bardstown, Taylor).
-- First region has ZERO in the top 54.
-- Fourth region has two in the top 55 (Warren Central, Bowling Green).
-- Eighth region has three in the top 56 (South Oldham, Collins, Oldham Co.).
-- Second region has two in the top 68 (Hopkinsville, Henderson).
-- Third region has two in the top 74 (Apollo, Owensboro).
I think top four is a better indicator of the region's strength compared to the top 2 or 1. FOUR in top 49 is better than three in top 56 (which shows FIFTH has more depth at top compared to the eighth).
If Syracuse was in the Sun Belt, would you consider the Sun Belt strong in college? I wouldn't.
If we're basing it on the top team, the ACC was better than the SEC football this season (which we know is not true).
Overall Rating The State:
Ballard 85.9
Scott Co. 84.5
Louisville Trinity 84.4
Newport Catholic 84.2
Hopkinsville 83.3
Covington Catholic 83.1
Wayne Co. 82.4
Holmes 81.8
Doss 80.9
Lafayette 80.5
Warren Central 80.2
South Oldham 80.1
Lincoln Co. 80.1
Pleasure Ridge Park 80.0
Knott Central 79.9
Elizabethtown 79.3
Henry Clay 78.7
Montgomery Co. 78.2
Perry Central 77.5
St. Xavier 77.2
Southwestern 77.1
Henderson Co. 76.9
Bullitt East 76.6
Hazard 76.1
Collins 76.1
Lexington Catholic 76.0
Iroquois 76.0
Eastern 76.0
Madison Central 75.3
Manual 75.2
Dixie Heights 74.9
Mason Co. 74.8
Bishop Brossart 74.7
John Hardin 74.5
Jeffersontown 74.2
Waggener 74.1
Fairdale 73.9
Desales 73.8
Bryan Station 73.8
Cordia 73.7
Johnson Central 73.5
Bowling Green 73.5
Apollo 73.4
Oldham Co. 72.8
Owensboro 72.3
Male 72.1
Bardstown 71.9
Western 71.8
Taylor Co. 71.8
Boyle Co. 71.7
Fern Creek 71.3
Cooper 71.2
Fleming Co. 71.0
West Jessamine 70.9
Graves Co. 70.8
Russell Co. 70.7
Simon Kenton 70.1
Mccracken Co. 69.4
Paul Dunbar 69.2
St. Henry 68.8
Lou. Holy Cross 68.4
Campbell Co. 68.2
East Jessamine 67.7
Clay Co. 67.5
Butler 67.2
Knox Central 67.1
Harrison Co. 66.7
Clinton Co. 66.7
University Heights 66.6
Calloway Co. 66.4
Lexington Christian 66.3
Jackson Co. 66.0
Shelby Co. 65.9
Marshall Co. 65.8
St. Mary 65.7
Rowan Co. 65.7
Daviess Co. 65.7
Mercer Co. 65.6
Danville 65.6
Barren Co. 65.6
Breathitt Co. 65.1
Boone Co. 65.1
Somerset 64.7
Monroe Co. 64.7
Central Hardin 64.5
Ryle 64.4
Franklin Co. 64.4
Madisonville 64.3
Ashland Blazer 64.3
Corbin 64.2
Pulaski Co. 64.0
Madison Southern 64.0
Lawrence Co. 64.0
Boyd Co. 63.9
Central 63.4
Clark Co. 63.3
South Warren 63.1
Bullitt Central 62.8
Shelby Valley 62.7
Louisville Christian 62.7
Country Day 62.4
Paducah Tilghman 62.1
Ohio Co. 62.0
Caldwell Co. 61.9
Greenwood 61.5
Conner 61.4
North Oldham 60.8
Mayfield 60.8
Woodford Co. 60.7
Webster Co. 60.7
South Laurel 60.5
Muhlenberg Co. 60.4
Anderson Co. 60.4
Glasgow 60.3
Highlands 60.0
Tates Creek 59.9
Bell Co. 59.7
Letcher Central 59.6
Thomas Nelson 59.5
Marion Co. 59.1
Owen Co. 59.0
Buckhorn 58.9
Scott 58.7
Betsy Layne 58.7
Seneca 58.6
Barbourville 58.5
Owensboro Catholic 58.4
Adair Co. 58.4
Wolfe Co. 58.2
Sheldon Clark 58.2
Henry Co. 58.2
North Laurel 57.8
Christian Co. 57.8
North Bullitt 57.6
Green Co. 57.6
East Carter 57.6
Augusta 57.3
Model 57.2
Warren East 57.0
LaRue Co. 56.9
Rockcastle Co. 56.7
Estill Co. 56.6
Trigg Co. 56.3
Grant Co. 56.3
Casey Co. 56.2
Newport 56.0
Allen Co. 56.0
Ludlow 55.9
East Ridge 55.9
Gallatin Co. 55.2
Paris 54.9
Harlan 54.9
Elliott Co. 54.6
Pikeville 54.5
Harlan Co. 54.5
Mclean Co. 54.4
Bethlehem 54.4
Spencer Co. 54.3
Lewis Co. 54.2
Whitley Co. 53.9
Greenup Co. 53.9
Union Co. 53.8
Paintsville 53.8
North Hardin 53.7
Pike Central 53.6
Cov. Holy Cross 53.4
Bourbon Co. 53.3
Hickman Co. 53.0
Whitefield Academy 52.9
Garrard Co. 52.9
Carroll Co. 52.8
Morgan Co. 52.7
Franklin-Simpson 52.7
Magoffin Co. 52.6
Fort Knox 52.4
Logan Co. 52.2
Grayson Co. 52.2
Murray 51.7
Hancock Co. 51.7
Shawnee 51.4
Sayre 51.1
Edmonson Co. 51.0
West Carter 50.7
Russellville 50.5
Frankfort 50.1
Atherton 50.0
Powell Co. 49.8
Moore 49.7
Butler Co. 49.7
Prestonsburg 48.8
Caverna 48.5
Raceland 48.4
Meade Co. 48.3
Southern 48.2
Williamsburg 47.6
Middlesboro 47.6
Breckinridge Co. 47.6
Belfry 47.6
Todd Central 47.4
Leslie Co. 47.1
Beechwood 46.9
Trimble Co. 46.4
Campbellsville 46.1
Ballard Memorial 45.2
Carlisle Co. 45.1
Pineville 45.0
Nelson Co. 44.9
Jackson City 44.4
Valley 44.0
Nicholas Co. 44.0
Robertson Co. 43.9
Pendleton Co. 43.8
Hart Co. 43.3
Bracken Co. 43.2
Hopkins Central 43.1
Lyon Co. 42.9
Eminence 42.9
Collegiate 42.9
Crittenden Co. 42.6
Walton-Verona 42.5
Russell 42.4
Bellevue 42.2
Western Hills 42.0
Lloyd 41.8
Lee Co. 41.1
Owsley Co. 40.7
Oneida Baptist 40.0
Fairview 39.9
Allen Central 39.3
Williamstown 39.0
Fulton Co. 38.8
Livingston Central 37.8
Silver Grove 37.4
Cumberland Co. 37.3
June Buchanan 37.2
Lynn Camp 37.1
Mccreary Central 36.9
St. Patrick 36.6
Menifee Co. 36.0
South Floyd 35.6
Metcalfe Co. 35.4
Fort Campbell 34.6
Beth Haven 34.3
Whitesville Trinity 33.7
Fulton City 33.3
Bath Co. 33.0
Washington Co. 32.5
St. Francis 32.2
Berea 31.6
Cloverport 31.1
Jenkins 29.4
Phelps 25.4
Portland Christian 25.2
Brown 24.7
Villa Madonna 24.6
Dayton 23.2
Evangel 23.0
Walden 22.5
Community Christian 22.5
Calvary Christian 19.1
Burgin 17.3
Heritage Academy 11.7
Piarist 10.1
Red Bird 8.0
Dawson Springs 6.8
Rose Hill 5.4
Ky. School For Deaf 2.3
Christian Fellowship 0.3
Riverside Christian 0.1
Latin 0.1
The 9th has 3 very good teams then Dixie Heights. The rest isn't overly tough. I wouldn't say it's the best region in the state.
The 11th region from top to bottom to me is the best. Scott County, Lafayette, Lex Cath, Henry Clay, Madison Central, Dunbar, Bryan Station.
I'd put the 7th region 2nd.
^ You bring up some good points. I like looking at the top-4 teams. I also like your idea of using computer rankings. Let's see how they compare using your methodology. Let's try the average Cantrell computer ratings of the top 4 in each region.
9th 81
7th 80.9
11th 79.9
6th 78.4
12th 77.8
14th 76.8
8th 74.8
10th 74
4th 72.8
2nd 72.8
5th 72.5
3rd 68.4
1st 68.1
16th 66.2
13th 66.2
15th 64.7
rojas Wrote:That one was a tough call. The way I see it:
Johnson Central (15) would be an solid favorite over Clay County (13).
Knox Central (13) would be solid favorite over Lawrence Co (15)
Jackson Co (13) would be a favorite over Shelby Valley (15)
Corbin (13) would be a very solid favorite over Betsy Layne (15)
While Johnson Central is better than any team in the 13th. After that the 13th is better.
Betsy Layne wore Jackson Co out at the All A