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^ The second smartest post you've made.

Hope and change from the spiral we were in. A gradual reprieve.

Sadly its stuck in 2008 along with Obama.

Hoot Gibson Wrote::Thumbs: nicker:

I love your signature image. Look at where the "job loss" starts, and then go to about July of 009, where it levels out. Who was President under the biggest part of that job loss? We gonna blame Obama for the loss of about 6 months that had already started?

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TheRealVille Wrote:I love your signature image. Look at where the "job loss" starts, and then go to about July of 009, where it levels out. Who was President under the biggest part of that job loss? We gonna blame Obama for the loss of about 6 months that had already started?

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RV, or any other lib, could you give me a short list of obama's policies that have enabled jobs to be created? No drivel or subject changes or cut and pastes from the daily kos, just a direct response with a short list?

jetpilot Wrote:RV, or any other lib, could you give me a short list of obama's policies that have enabled jobs to be created? No drivel or subject changes or cut and pastes from the daily kos, just a direct response with a short list?

I'm not saying he has been a master job creator. He did stop the bleeding that Bush caused, though. I guess you could look at this way, he put a tourniquet on the wound, and then ultimately, in small steps has helped heal the would, and gradually people are getting back to work. You guys are like the Bill Clinton quote(paraphrased), "Bush destroyed the economy. Obama isn't fixing it fast enough, so put our guys back in office, and let us fix it."

TheRealVille Wrote:I'm not saying he has been a master job creator. He did stop the bleeding that Bush caused, though. I guess you could look at this way, he put a tourniquet on the wound, and then ultimately, in small steps has helped heal the would, and gradually people are getting back to work. You guys are like the Bill Clinton quote(paraphrased), "Bush destroyed the economy. Obama isn't fixing it fast enough, so put our guys back in office, and let us fix it."

You missed the part of my post where I said no drivel. Are you going to even attempt to answer my question?

jetpilot Wrote:You missed the part of my post where I said no drivel. Are you going to even attempt to answer my question?

Hard to give examples where none exist. They probably need to just start making stuff up, and misrepresent the employment data. Oh yeah, we already got that. :biggrin:

TheRealVille Wrote:I love your signature image. Look at where the "job loss" starts, and then go to about July of 009, where it levels out. Who was President under the biggest part of that job loss? We gonna blame Obama for the loss of about 6 months that had already started?

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Nice observation RV, hadn't looked at that before! :Thumbs:

It's Bush's fault

nky Wrote:It's Bush's fault

Good to see you acknowledge that the job loss leading up to Obama's Presidency was Bush's fault. :Thumbs: Obama slowed that nose dive to "level", then started getting them back on the upswing, after about 6 months.

Blame Bush.
Obama gonna pay my gas.

nky Wrote:It's Bush's fault

now that's the smartest post he ever made

TheRealVille Wrote:I love your signature image. Look at where the "job loss" starts, and then go to about July of 009, where it levels out. Who was President under the biggest part of that job loss? We gonna blame Obama for the loss of about 6 months that had already started?

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You love my chart because you are not intelligent enough to understand it. For people who can read a simple line graph, it shows that a substantially lower percentage of Americans are working today than when Obama took the oath of office and there is no upward trend. Obama has presided over the slowest recovery in U.S. history, but he has probably shaved a few stokes off of his golf game at our expense.

Hoot Gibson Wrote:You love my chart because you are not intelligent enough to understand it. For people who can read a simple line graph, it shows that a substantially lower percentage of Americans are working today than when Obama took the oath of office and there is no upward trend. Obama has presided over the slowest recovery in U.S. history, but he has probably shaved a few stokes off of his golf game at our expense.

Who was that big ass drop under? Obama stopped the bleeding is what your chart shows.

TheRealVille Wrote:Who was that big ass dip under? Obama stopped the bleeding is what your chart shows.

The percentage of American adults working today is much lower than when Obama took office. The number of people drawing foodstamps and disability benefits stands at its highest level ever. You call that "stopping the bleeding?" I call it an economic train wreck. Obama cares even less about the economy than he does about the Constitution.

Hoot Gibson Wrote:The percentage of American adults working today is much lower than when Obama took office. The number of people drawing foodstamps and disability benefits stands at its highest level ever. You call that "stopping the bleeding?" I call it an economic train wreck. Obama cares even less about the economy than he does about the Constitution.

Baby boomers. Don't blame Obama on Bush's suicide shot.

TheRealVille Wrote:Baby boomers. Don't blame Obama on Bush's suicide shot.

The blame for Obama is on people like you, not Bush. Anybody with half a brain knew that he was the lazy socialist that we see now throughout his life. It's not his fault, he was surrounded with communists and assorted freaks from the time he was born. He is a mental case that should never have become every American's problem.

Hoot Gibson Wrote:The blame for Obama is on people like you, not Bush. Anybody with half a brain knew that he was the lazy socialist that we see now throughout his life. It's not his fault, he was surrounded with communists and assorted freaks from the time he was born. He is a mental case that should never have become every American's problem.

And no, you lie. It is already been reported that the jobs loss number when Obama took office has been made up. Per the other thread, this socialist isn't doing a very good job destroying America.

TheRealVille Wrote:And no, you lie. It is already been reported that the jobs loss number when Obama took office has been made up. Per the other thread, this socialist isn't doing a very good job destroying America.

I am sure that "fact" has been reported in the venues you frequent. nicker:

Check the BLS's own numbers. You lack the moral standing to call anybody a liar. You are the Energizer Bunny of Obamabots.

Hoot Gibson Wrote:I am sure that "fact" has been reported in the venues you frequent. nicker:

Check the BLS's own numbers. You lack the moral standing to call anybody a liar. You are the Energizer Bunny of Obamabots.

Wish I'd thought of that one. :biggrin:

Hoot Gibson Wrote:I am sure that "fact" has been reported in the venues you frequent. nicker:

Check the BLS's own numbers. You lack the moral standing to call anybody a liar. You are the Energizer Bunny of Obamabots.

Hoot, looking at your very chart, any moron can see by the dates, that Obama stopped the bleeding Bush started. Just check the dates.

TheRealVille Wrote:Hoot, looking at your very chart, any moron can see by the dates, that Obama stopped the bleeding Bush started. Just check the dates.

I did. The numbers are worse than they were when Obama took office, and they are not getting any better. The unemployment rate has dropped slightly because people have been leaving the labor force faster than new people have been entering it.

Hoot Gibson Wrote:I did. The numbers are worse than they were when Obama took office, and they are not getting any better. The unemployment rate has dropped slightly because people have been leaving the labor force faster than new people have been entering it.

Can you say "baby boomers"?

TheRealVille Wrote:Can you say "baby boomers"?

can you says 50 mil on food stamps

How about a chart indicating how many pe3ople have quit looking for a job and, thus, are not counted in the numbers?

Harry Rex Vonner Wrote:How about a chart indicating how many pe3ople have quit looking for a job and, thus, are not counted in the numbers?

How about a chart on the "baby boomers" that are quitting work, retiring in droves, that are part of your "people not looking for job" numbers?

There's no doubt that this country is facing an economic crisis, which will only get worse.

The FED has done everything they can to prevent the economic collapse, interest rates are so low they are practically begging people to borrow free money. Yet the only thing happening is the wealthiest top percent of this country continue to reap all of the profits.

This is not about making everything equal. People are not equal when it comes to intelligence, hard work, creativeness. This is also not about people making money.

However, I do think there is a crisis coming right for us if we don't do something quickly.

This country has way to many creative, smart, hardworking individuals in a country with vast natural resources to see the type of economy and decrease in the standard of living that we are seeing. This comes from both sides, repub and dem, most of which are too concerned with passing legislation that allows them to line their own pockets, and allows those funding the lobbyists to reap all of the benefits. Jobs have declined, wages have declined or stagnated, education costs are skyrocketing, and we've seen the number of those on govt assistance swell. The debt is around 16 trillion, and taxes are already far beyond where they should be.

Is it so hard to have an economic policy that encourages job growth in the US, controls inflation, and allows for wage increases?

It is when the people with all of the power and money are buying off the politicians.

There should be no such thing as a career politician, it should be a job that someone does part time, in between their other actual job. I don't think anyone on this board can honestly say they believe most politicians have the people of this country as their #1 priority when it comes to setting policy.

Companies should not be able to ships jobs overseas and employ what amounts to modern day slave labor, and then ship those goods back to America. Also, we have to curb union power, while I believe unions are necessary, in some cases they have definitely over reached.

I also believe it is necessary for the govt to step in and break up the oligarchy's that exist in this country. The banks, oil companies, insurance companies and so on have gone from dozens or hundreds to basically a select few.


I've posted this image before, and it shows how ridiculous the current set up is. These 4 institutions hold all of the power, well the power that the world bankers who run the Federal Reserve allow them to have. The FED Reserve needs audited and overhauled, it can not continue to exist with the amount of power that it currently has.