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With Ashland hosting my Pirates this weekend, I was thinking how the Big Red has only defeated the Cats 3 times in history out of 20 games I believe. Correct me if I am wrong. On the other hand, Belfry has defeated Pikeville 12 straight years, and I cannot remember the last time they lost to a Pike County team not named Pikeville. Belfry once owned Johnson Central, but the last 3 years have gone the Eagle's way. Belfry's biggest nemesis right now is Louisville Central and their 0-3 record against the Jackets.

Belfry has never lost to the "merged" schools of Shelby Valley, East Ridge, or Pike Central.

Pikeville has owned Paintsville, which makes me happy lol. Losing twice in the past 26-27 years. The best thing is most games are not blow outs. Just good consistent wins over a historically good program. Paintsville being a fairly decently smaller school, but very similar in passion, support, tradition for both schools.

And ever since 2001, Belfry has owned Pikeville.

Beechwood would be another one that has killed many Panther seasons and seem to always have our number. I will go count it up, but I seem to think that out of 20 regional championship seasons, 3 ended with Titles, 1 with a runner-up to Trigg County, and 1 runner-up to Beechwood. It seems like 7-9 of the other 15 runs have been ended by Beechwood. I will check in on it and get back.

If Jetpilot hits this thread up, he should have some good ones. He knows more about Pre-1999 than I do for sure and had good numbers about Hazard at one point. It seems it went from Pikeville always beating Hazard, to a lot of splits, now Hazard is on a roll.

Good stuff PT.

Ironton has owned Ashland winning 19 in a row until 2009 and winning 21 of 23. I had always wondered what bob lutz would have done against schools like FTH in the 80's and 90's it would have been some classics I'm sure.

Ashland has owned most of there other rivals in recently memory winning 10 in a row over Boyd and 5 in a row over Russell the last five in each series Ashland has a average margin of victory well over 30 points

Though it has changed in recent years to a more balanced rivalry, Raceland vs. Fairview for the most part has been dominated by Raceland. Until the Chris Jennings era, they had only one a handful or so of games in a series that dates back well into the early 70s. Raceland holds a 11 year run over Nicholas County I believe. The Raceland-Ashland series has had some great games, and the series isn't as lopsided as it may seem. Though Raceland wins in this series tend to come in groups of 3, followed by 5 years or so of Ashland dominance. General rule of thumb when it comes down to it this...Ashland 42 Raceland 15....or Raceland 26 Ashland 21. Always fun to watch these games though.

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Estill is usually pretty dominate against Powell but Powell has gotten the best of Estill past couple years.

Breathitt just whips Estill. Estill had couple chance to upset the bobcats in recent years but couldn't get it done. I think the last time Estill defeated Breathitt was 1988 in the Honey Bowl

Danville owned Boyle County from '80 to '96. There were some close games till about '85 and then there were some close ones in '95 before the 19 game streak was broken.

Since then it's been the other way around with Boyle leading 12-5.

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Panther Thunder Wrote:Pikeville has owned Paintsville, which makes me happy lol. Losing twice in the past 26-27 years. The best thing is most games are not blow outs. Just good consistent wins over a historically good program. Paintsville being a fairly decently smaller school, but very similar in passion, support, tradition for both schools.

And ever since 2001, Belfry has owned Pikeville.

Beechwood would be another one that has killed many Panther seasons and seem to always have our number. I will go count it up, but I seem to think that out of 20 regional championship seasons, 3 ended with Titles, 1 with a runner-up to Trigg County, and 1 runner-up to Beechwood. It seems like 7-9 of the other 15 runs have been ended by Beechwood. I will check in on it and get back.

If Jetpilot hits this thread up, he should have some good ones. He knows more about Pre-1999 than I do for sure and had good numbers about Hazard at one point. It seems it went from Pikeville always beating Hazard, to a lot of splits, now Hazard is on a roll.

Beechwood and Pikeville's history since 1972:

-1972 Pikeville 24 Beechwood 8
-1984 Beechwood 29 Pikeville 21 (Beechwood State Champion)
-1987 Game Suspended at half of Pike County Bowl (BHS led 21-20, Only regular season meeting)
-*1987 Pikeville 52 Beechwood 28 (Pikeville State Champion)
-1988 Pikeville 34 Beechwood 7 (Pikeville State Champion)
-1989 Pikeville 49 Beechwood 20 (Pikeville State Champion)
-*1991 Beechwood 34 Pikeville 6 (State Championship, Beechwood State Champion)
-1992 Beechwood 34 Pikeville 0 (Beechwood State Champion)
-1993 Beechwood 38 Pikeville 13 (Beechwood State Champion)
-1994 Beechwood 23 Pikeville 17 (Beechwood State Champion)
-1995 Beechwood 42 Pikeville 15
-1996 Beechwood 38 Pikeville 0 (Beechwood State Champion)
-1999 Beechwood 25 Pikeville 19 (Beechwood State Champion)
-2004 Beechwood 40 Pikeville 7 (Beechwood State Champion)


Beechwood has won every match up since 1989. In the 13 match ups (Not counting the Suspended game), Beechwood leads the series 9-4. And in 11 of the 13 games, a State Champion was involved. The Tigers have cost the Panthers at least one state title. And a legitimate shot at 2. Other games, Pikeville was not going to win the title (big losses to Beechwood indicate they would not have had much shot in the title game). So 3 of the closer losses with Beechwood have cost the Panthers up to 3 State Championships.

A series like this is full of mega-important games. Kind of like What Beechwood and Mayfield have going on in the West now. And unfortunately, Beechwood had the upper hand against the Maroon and White.

Greenwood has never beaten Bowling Green in their 21 year history. Purples are 21-0 against the Gators.

I'm a Middlesboro fan.. guess who!

Bell County. We always get stomped into the ground. Dunno last time we beat them, don't even want to find out.

Also, I am a Cumberland Gap fan since I love right on the KY/TN border. The Gap always gets killed by Oneida every year.

bucslover68 Wrote:With Ashland hosting my Pirates this weekend, I was thinking how the Big Red has only defeated the Cats 3 times in history out of 20 games I believe. Correct me if I am wrong. On the other hand, Belfry has defeated Pikeville 12 straight years, and I cannot remember the last time they lost to a Pike County team not named Pikeville. Belfry once owned Johnson Central, but the last 3 years have gone the Eagle's way. Belfry's biggest nemesis right now is Louisville Central and their 0-3 record against the Jackets.

Here is what I have for Belfry/Pikeville:

1956 Pikeville 0 Belfry 0 (Tie)
1978 Pikeville 26 Belfry 12
1979 Belfry 16 Pikeville 6
1980 Pikeville 13 Belfry 8
1981 Pikeville 20 Belfry 8
1982
1983
1984 Belfry 20 Pikeville 0
1985
1986
1987 Pikeville 39 Belfry 14 (Pikeville Class A State Champion)
1988 Pikeville 26 Belfry 14 (Pikeville Class A State Champion)
1989 Belfry 33 Pikeville 24 (Pikeville Class A State Champion)
1990 Belfry 21 Pikeville 14
1991 Pikeville 41 Belfry 7
1992 Belfry 34 Pikeville (?, Fill in tmrw)
1993 Belfry 26 Pikeville 6
1994 Pikeville 36 Belfry 18
1995 Belfry 7 Pikeville 6
1996 Belfry 26 Pikeville 0 (Overtime)
1997 Belfry (W) Pikeville (L)
1998 Pikeville 35 Belfry 19
1999 Pikeville 28 Belfry 6
2000 Pikeville 31 Belfry 14
2001 Belfry 21 Pikeville 0
2002 Belfry 20 Pikeville 13
2003 Belfry 28 Pikeville 6 (Belfry AAA State Champion)
2004 Belfry 30 Pikeville 0 (Belfry AAA State Champion)
2005 Belfry 36 Pikeville 13
2006 Belfry 24 Pikeville 20
2007 Belfry 49 Pikeville 7
2008 Belfry 48 Pikeville 7
2009 Belfry 54 Pikeville 20
2010 Belfry 55 Pikeville 24
2011 Belfry 55 Pikeville 14
2012 Belfry 48 Pikeville 0

I will need some help other than 1990 which I can get tomorrow.

EDIT: Little more googling, found an article from before 2007's game by Rick Bentley:

"There are some numbers in this series that always amaze me. The rivalry is considered a close one, and always has been. Tonight the teams will play for the 47th time since the first meeting in the autumn of 1949 (contrary to popular opinion, I did not cover that initial meeting; The '53 game was my first). Belfry has won 25 times, Pikeville 18, and three were ties.

Of those sister-kissings - which cannot happen anymore, by the way, thanks to overtime - the most interesting one took place in 1956. The score? Trick question! There was no score. By the way, if anybody has a film of that game, I'd love to see it. Seriously.

In that time, Belfry has outscored Pikeville by the still somewhat-close margin of 843-668. That means the average is 18.33 to 14.52, or just more than a field goal.

Philip Haywood has really put his stamp on this series. The legendary Belfry coach is 16-7 since taking over on Pond Creek and has an overall record of 18-13 against the Panthers."

Putting those numbers, adding in games since '07:

-Belfry leads the series 31-18-3 (It was 19-18-3 at one point lol)
-Haywood is 22-7 versus Pikeville (at Belfry)
-Chris McNamee is 2-7 versus Belfry (at Pikeville)
-Overall Score: Belfry 1,152 Pikeville 740
-The Two schools have played 52 times

M'boroYellowJacket Wrote:I'm a Middlesboro fan.. guess who!

Bell County. We always get stomped into the ground. Dunno last time we beat them, don't even want to find out.

Also, I am a Cumberland Gap fan since I love right on the KY/TN border. The Gap always gets killed by Oneida every year.

1997 last time before that 1988.

Rockcastle has beat Madison Southern every time they played.

PT, you skipped '97 and I'm fairly certain Belfry won that one by a decent margin.

West 80 Wrote:Rockcastle has beat Madison Southern every time they played.

19-0 to be exact, from 2003-2006 we allowed 19 points, tied the record for most points scored my Sr. year w/ 54 in 2006 when Dusty Miller rushed for 372 yards and 6 scores. Then my last yr. coaching in 2010, Jr. RB Clark Rowe broke that record rushing for 445 yards.

Leonidas Wrote:PT, you skipped '97 and I'm fairly certain Belfry won that one by a decent margin.

You're right. Put it in, I will have to find an exact score somewhere. I hope it was by a decent margin, South Floyd beat us that year.

Johnson Central's biggest rival USED TO BE Paintsville....... But Paintsville decided to take their program in a different direction, meaning they quit playing the annual Apple Bowl on the Thursday night before Apple Day against us. And I do think Paintsville does hold the all-time win/lose record against JC 20-16 if my memory serves me correct. But since Matney took over in 2004, the scores went as follows.....
2004: 48-6
2005: 50-6
2006: 56-6
2007: 49-15
2008: 55-7


Now, Ashland and Belfry (IMO) are JC's biggest football rivals.

Panther Thunder Wrote:A serious like this is full of mega-important games. Kind of like What Beechwood and Mayfield have going on in the West now. And unfortunately, Beechwood had the upper hand against the Maroon and White.

Speaking of Beechwood and Mayfield...

1995: Mayfield 28, Beechwood 27 (State Final)
2002: Mayfield 14, Beechwood 7 (State Final)
2009: Mayfield 38, Beechwood 0 (State Semi)
2010: Mayfield 38, Beechwood 14 (State Semi)
2011: Mayfield 19, Beechwood 14 (State Semi)

Pulp Fiction Wrote:Johnson Central's biggest rival USED TO BE Paintsville....... But Paintsville decided to take their program in a different direction, meaning they quit playing the annual Apple Bowl on the Thursday night before Apple Day against us. And I do think Paintsville does hold the all-time win/lose record against JC 20-16 if my memory serves me correct. But since Matney took over in 2004, the scores went as follows.....
2004: 48-6
2005: 50-6
2006: 56-6
2007: 49-15
2008: 55-7


Now, Ashland and Belfry (IMO) are JC's biggest football rivals.

I think Highlands is on that list. Since Paintsville said "NO MAS" to the Apple Bowl I think there biggest rival is Jenkins.

rocket01 Wrote:19-0 to be exact, from 2003-2006 we allowed 19 points, tied the record for most points scored my Sr. year w/ 54 in 2006 when Dusty Miller rushed for 372 yards and 6 scores. Then my last yr. coaching in 2010, Jr. RB Clark Rowe broke that record rushing for 445 yards.

That streak could be ending if ms keeps up what they are doing...

Since 89 Whitley has only lost to Lynn Camp twice.
That series finally ended this year after playing for over 40 straight years.

Dominated by is kind of a hard one. Bell has given us some lumps over the past 5 years, but i wouldnt say dominated. As far as wins and losses go, Whitley is 0-15 against Corbin, but the two havent played for 30 years, and Whitley is much larger than they were back then.

toussaints Wrote:Speaking of Beechwood and Mayfield...

1995: Mayfield 28, Beechwood 27 (State Final)
2002: Mayfield 14, Beechwood 7 (State Final)
2009: Mayfield 38, Beechwood 0 (State Semi)
2010: Mayfield 38, Beechwood 14 (State Semi)
2011: Mayfield 19, Beechwood 14 (State Semi)

Ouch.

Side note: We need some Beechwood fans on here.

Side Side Note: I miss your old avatar.

wildthang3 Wrote:That streak could be ending if ms keeps up what they are doing...

MS has beaten teams so far that had a combination of ONLY 9 wins ! ROCK has played teams that won a combination of over 40, noy meaning to crash the parade but Im a detail digger

RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Since 89 Whitley has only lost to Lynn Camp twice.
That series finally ended this year after playing for over 40 straight years.

Dominated by is kind of a hard one. Bell has given us some lumps over the past 5 years, but i wouldnt say dominated. As far as wins and losses go, Whitley is 0-15 against Corbin, but the two havent played for 30 years, and Whitley is much larger than they were back then.

I think it's time to schedule Corbin again. Corbin was kicking everyone's butt 30 years ago, especially the Colonels. I think it would be a great rivalry now.

Unfortunately Ashland had owned Russell for the last five years and Zrzceland just continued to win the last four some way some how.

adopted purple Wrote:I think it's time to schedule Corbin again. Corbin was kicking everyone's butt 30 years ago, especially the Colonels. I think it would be a great rivalry now.

Corbin needs to man up and play Knox and Whitley. Why does corbin not play them, it is a very close game and would rake in money.

Danville has seemingly owned Mayfield. To my knowledge the two never played until 1987.

1987 Danville 24 Mayfield 23 OT (AA State Title Game)
1989 Danville 7 Mayfield 3 (AA State Title Game)
1991 Danville 17 Mayfield 14 (AA State Title Game)
1992 Danville 34 Mayfield 7 (AA State Title Game)

With realignment they were set together in the West in Class A for a while.


2000 Danville won 35-7
2001 Danville won 17-10
2002 Mayfield won 17-7
2003 Danville won 25-3
2004 Danville won 33-14
2006 Danville won 27-0

It's rare to see a great program so dominated by another great program.

Panther Thunder Wrote:Here is what I have for Belfry/Pikeville:

1956 Pikeville 0 Belfry 0 (Tie)
1978 Pikeville 26 Belfry 12
1979 Belfry 16 Pikeville 6
1980 Pikeville 13 Belfry 8
1981 Pikeville 20 Belfry 8
1982
1983
1984 Belfry 20 Pikeville 0
1985
1986
1987 Pikeville 39 Belfry 14 (Pikeville Class A State Champion)
1988 Pikeville 26 Belfry 14 (Pikeville Class A State Champion)
1989 Belfry 33 Pikeville 24 (Pikeville Class A State Champion)
1990 (?, I'll get this tmrw)
1991 Pikeville 41 Belfry 7
1992 Belfry 34 Pikeville (?, Fill in tmrw)
1993 Belfry 26 Pikeville 6
1994 Pikeville 36 Belfry 18
1995 Belfry 7 Pikeville 6
1996 Belfry 26 Pikeville 0 (Overtime)
1997 Belfry (W) Pikeville (L)
1998 Pikeville 35 Belfry 19
1999 Pikeville 28 Belfry 6
2000 Pikeville 31 Belfry 14
2001 Belfry 21 Pikeville 0
2002 Belfry 20 Pikeville 13
2003 Belfry 28 Pikeville 6 (Belfry AAA State Champion)
2004 Belfry 30 Pikeville 0 (Belfry AAA State Champion)
2005 Belfry 36 Pikeville 13
2006 Belfry 24 Pikeville 20
2007 Belfry 49 Pikeville 7
2008 Belfry 48 Pikeville 7
2009 Belfry 54 Pikeville 20
2010 Belfry 55 Pikeville 24
2011 Belfry 55 Pikeville 14
2012 Belfry 48 Pikeville 0

I will need some help other than 1990 which I can get tomorrow.

EDIT: Little more googling, found an article from before 2007's game by Rick Bentley:

"There are some numbers in this series that always amaze me. The rivalry is considered a close one, and always has been. Tonight the teams will play for the 47th time since the first meeting in the autumn of 1949 (contrary to popular opinion, I did not cover that initial meeting; The '53 game was my first). Belfry has won 25 times, Pikeville 18, and three were ties.

Of those sister-kissings - which cannot happen anymore, by the way, thanks to overtime - the most interesting one took place in 1956. The score? Trick question! There was no score. By the way, if anybody has a film of that game, I'd love to see it. Seriously.

In that time, Belfry has outscored Pikeville by the still somewhat-close margin of 843-668. That means the average is 18.33 to 14.52, or just more than a field goal.

Philip Haywood has really put his stamp on this series. The legendary Belfry coach is 16-7 since taking over on Pond Creek and has an overall record of 18-13 against the Panthers."

Putting those numbers, adding in games since '07:

-Belfry leads the series 31-18-3 (It was 19-18-3 at one point lol)
-Haywood is 22-7 versus Pikeville (at Belfry)
-Chris McNamee is 2-7 versus Belfry (at Pikeville)
-Overall Score: Belfry 1,152 Pikeville 740
-The Two schools have played 52 times

1990 was 21-14 Belfry......