Maybe our people should kill their ambassadors for burning our flags....
Just drag em right out in the street.....
But yoiu wont ever see that cause were not effing retards. If anyone think this is about the movie, there blind.
TheRealVille Wrote:I'm not a conservative, so of course I would have no problem with censoring something that could have devastating/deadly consequences, and could be averted by censorship of the material.
As to your statement in the quote, the first time the terrorist could have saw the video was in July of '12. At that point they could have started planning this "mission".
So you support censorship, if what you're censoring has devastating consequences.
Now, can I still shoot vector, and still be only partially accountable?
Granny Bear Wrote:So you support censorship, if what you're censoring has devastating consequences.
Now, can I still shoot vector, and still be only partially accountable?
You can shoot him all you want Granny but you'll never kill him. You cant kill figments of someone's imagination, dont cha know?
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Granny Bear Wrote:So you support censorship, if what you're censoring has devastating consequences.
Now, can I still shoot vector, and still be only partially accountable?
No, you would be fully responsible for shooting him, and the person that posted a video that caused you to shoot him should be punished also.
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Maybe our people should kill their ambassadors for burning our flags....
Just drag em right out in the street.....
But yoiu wont ever see that cause were not effing retards. If anyone think this is about the movie, there blind.
I'm not taking up for the killers. They should be hunted down and hanged, quick. But, I'm not naive enough to think that film didn't play at least a part, if the killers are claiming it did. That the killers hate Americans has never been in question.
Bob Seger Wrote:You can shoot him all you want Granny but you'll never kill him. You cant kill figments of someone's imagination, dont cha know?nicker:
This was purely hypothetical Bob!!
Trying to wrap my head around RV's perspective.
TheRealVille Wrote:I'm not taking up for the killers. They should be hunted down and hanged, quick. But, I'm not naive enough to think that film didn't play at least a part, if the killers are claiming it did. That the killers hate Americans has never been in question.
I disagree with you
emphatically, on every point.
But, I do appreciate your answering my questions honestly.
I think I see your perspective better than I did before, but still I disagree.
TheRealVille Wrote:I'm not a conservative, so of course I would have no problem with censoring something that could have devastating/deadly consequences, and could be averted by censorship of the material.
As to your statement in the quote, the first time the terrorist could have saw the video was in July of '12. At that point they could have started planning this "mission".
So you think the government should censor anything it choose to censor on the grounds it may have devastating or deadly consequences? I'm trying to wrap my head around this statement. It seems so North Koren to me.
Yeah, who determines the "yardstick" when measuring what may or may not be devastating...
Conservative or not, this seems dangerous to me.
TheRealVille Wrote:I'm not taking up for the killers. They should be hunted down and hanged, quick. But, I'm not naive enough to think that film didn't play at least a part, if the killers are claiming it did. That the killers hate Americans has never been in question.
Several years ago a murdered claimed that he committed the act because he ate too many Twinkies. Since he made that claim are you also naive enough to believe him. By the way, no one else bought his argument and he was found guilty.
It is important to Kardashian and his ilk to spin the ridiculous film argument. If they can get some morons (an this country ans millions of them) to believe the film caused the attack, no one can blame Kardashian for any of the happenings. And, we all know that Bucky never gets the blame for anything.
Truman, a good Democrat president, said, "The buck stops here". Bucky, on the other hand, believes the buck stops everywhere but at his doorstep.
TheRealVille Wrote:No, you would be fully responsible for shooting him, and the person that posted a video that caused you to shoot him should be punished also.
Even in this day when men have lost the ability to judge what is right, there are still things to be thankful for. I for one, am thankful you don't have anything to do with law enforcement or the legislature.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH
What if they blamed a superman comic book? Would you be calling for DC Comics to be shut down and their editors to be imprisoned?
Granny Bear Wrote:Yeah, who determines the "yardstick" when measuring what may or may not be devastating...
Conservative or not, this seems dangerous to me.
I guess our dear leader or anyone else who holds the Executive Branch. When our founding fathers set forth the Constitution the reason for the "Bill of Rights" (1st 10 Amendments for some of you) was to clearly spell out our rights as citizens. It was stop make sure there wasn't censorship or any limits placed on our natural rights. TVR/Vector/widemouth3/4leaf and any others on here that has a unique view of the world that I may not agree with. I will always argue (no matter how stupid the comment) your RIGHT to state that comment. I will defend you(and laugh at you) to the end
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nky Wrote:I guess our dear leader or anyone else who holds the Executive Branch. When our founding fathers set forth the Constitution the reason for the "Bill of Rights" (1st 10 Amendments for some of you) was to clearly spell out our rights as citizens. It was stop make sure there wasn't censorship or any limits placed on our natural rights. TVR/Vector/widemouth3/4leaf and any others on here that has a unique view of the world that I may not agree with. I will always argue (no matter how stupid the comment) your RIGHT to state that comment. I will defend you(and laugh at you) to the endnicker:
They just don't get it nky. It's a leap too far to connect the obvious. Right now, we are considering controlling what information goes on the internet. Which means of course, censorship. When the government gives itself the authority to control our lives in this manner, freedom is over. Off the top of my head here is a list of things your government thinks they should control. Health Care generally, but also relative to how much you will pay for health care, the kinds of food you eat, your level of activity and your weight. Utility usage-where your thermostat is set and how much hot water you use, and what kind of light bulbs you're allowed to use. Driving habits, complete with a gizmo installed in your car which will relay a complete and invasive record of mileage, speed, times etc. and what kind of car you are allowed to own. What you can say on the internet, how you raise your children, how long you should live once you begin to develope health problems, birth control (unless you're not married, then it's the more the merrier). How much you should reasonably donate,
through taxation, to take care of the lower income 'government pets' which of course vote democatic. How much you must spend on your children's college education, (no-works pay zero, working folks pay an amount determined by a graduated scale of your earnings) And, last but not least, how we are to treat those of any ethnic origin, other than caucasian, homosexuals, people of faith (except christians of course, it's open season on them) whether our kids can pray while they are on school property, including prayer before any kind of sporting events.
I'm sure I left out a boatload of other examples. A quick study of the misery foisted upon the people through the socialist agenda during the heydays of Russian communism, draws unmistakable parallels to this kind of governmental control. It's way past time to wake up. The best the dems can come up with agains Romney is some blather about Bain Capital, and supposedly how Romney has a war on women, and he made a lot of money. Like I have said, Strange days are upon us, and God help us.
Don't forget the size of soft drink you can buy, what type of oil your food can be cook in, and all kinds of other silly food regulations
http://www.bluegrassrivals.com/forum/sho...p?t=143415
This is TheRealThing's thread...not mine.
I don't want to be guilty of plagiarism...
What now RealVille?? Does this lend any support for revenge....in a
positive light? Can anyone understand that this is offensive AND that Obama and his administration tried to steer the motive for this atrocity toward a falsehood?