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Russian Collusion Hoax Indictment of Clinton Campaign Lawyer
#1
John Durham's investigation into the Russian collusion hoax, a Clinton campaign operation, is finally paying dividends. A grand jury has indicted a lawyer who represented the DNC, Hillary Clinton, campaign, and Fusion GPS, for lying to the FBI to hide his connection to Hillary and the DNC. Let the singing commence!

Quote:The Michael Sussmann Indictment

[color=var(--print_secondary, var(--print_secondary_on_web_bg_color, var(--print_secondary, #757575)))]No surprise: Trump/Russia was a Hillary Clinton operation all along.[/color]

[color=var(--print_secondary, var(--print_secondary_on_web_bg_color, var(--print_secondary, #757575)))]Perkins Coie lawyer Michael Sussman, who represented and worked on behalf of the DNC, the Hillary Clinton campaign, and Fusion GPS, has been indicted for giving false statements to FBI General Counsel James Baker. [color=var(--print_on_web_bg_color, #1a1a1a)]Read the full indictment here.[/color][/color]

[color=var(--print_secondary, var(--print_secondary_on_web_bg_color, var(--print_secondary, #757575)))]This relates to the Baker/Sussmann meeting on September 16, 2016, in which Sussmann conveyed the false information put together by himself, Fusion GPS, and others - including one unnamed powerful tech executive - that there were improper contacts between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank.
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[color=var(--print_secondary, var(--print_secondary_on_web_bg_color, var(--print_secondary, #757575)))]The allegation from the indictment:[/color]
Quote:[color=var(--print_secondary, var(--print_secondary_on_web_bg_color, var(--print_secondary, #757575)))][color=var(--print_on_web_bg_color, #1a1a1a)]“Sussman’s statement to the FBI General Counsel that he was not acting on behalf of any client was knowingly and intentionally false. In truth and in fact, and as SUSSMAN well knew, SUSSMANN acted on behalf of and in coordination with two specific clients of [Perkins Coie], Tech Executive-1 and the Clinton Campaign, in assembling and conveying these allegations.”[/color][/color]
#2
Wait...Wait...Wait

Lying to the FBI is a crime?!!! Aren't you the same guy who dies on the Michael Flynn hill of the evil FBI and their unlawful tactics?

Big Grin

The difference is Biden will allow justice to be served instead of the previous President who stood in the way of justice so Flynn wouldn't sing on him.
#3
FBI agents who interviewed Flynn said they didn't think he lied. Every single post you make on here is total BS and can be disproved in 2 minutes or less. If you are awake you are lying.
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#4
(09-17-2021, 10:29 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait...Wait...Wait

Lying to the FBI is a crime?!!!  Aren't you the same guy who dies on the Michael Flynn hill of the evil FBI and their unlawful tactics?

Big Grin 

The difference is Biden will allow justice to be served instead of the previous President who stood in the way of justice so Flynn wouldn't sing on him.
I believe that the FBI knew that Sussman was lying. Mueller tried to trap Flynn after his investigation had already learned that the allegations of Russian collusion were a hoax. In the case of Sussman, he lied to the FBI to protect Clinton and the DNC but Comey didn't care because he was a party to the hoax and accepting Sussman's lie at face value was a part of the cover-up.

Mueller completed his investigation and Trump did not interfere in the investigation. Trump fired Comey because he is a liar and a crook.

The Russian collusion allegations were part of a hoax. There was nothing for Trump to cover up. Not even Trump's slimy, backstabbing personal attorney's betrayal of Trump was enough to warrant any charges against Trump. If Sussman talks, there will be some big names fitted for orange jumpsuits.
#5
(09-17-2021, 10:43 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:29 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait...Wait...Wait

Lying to the FBI is a crime?!!!  Aren't you the same guy who dies on the Michael Flynn hill of the evil FBI and their unlawful tactics?

Big Grin 

The difference is Biden will allow justice to be served instead of the previous President who stood in the way of justice so Flynn wouldn't sing on him.
I believe that the FBI knew that Sussman was lying. Mueller tried to trap Flynn after his investigation had already learned that the allegations of Russian collusion were a hoax. In the case of Sussman, he lied to the FBI to protect Clinton and the DNC but Comey didn't care because he was a party to the hoax and accepting Sussman's lie at face value was a part of the cover-up.

Mueller completed his investigation and Trump did not interfere in the investigation. Trump fired Comey because he is a liar and a crook.
of course you do...

Sussmen was working with Dems and Flynn was working for Trump.  

Flynn lied to Pence and the FBI.  He admitted he lied in court.  He was pardoned by Trump not exonerated.  

This is just another example of you being a political hack.
#6
(09-17-2021, 10:51 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:43 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:29 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait...Wait...Wait

Lying to the FBI is a crime?!!!  Aren't you the same guy who dies on the Michael Flynn hill of the evil FBI and their unlawful tactics?

Big Grin 

The difference is Biden will allow justice to be served instead of the previous President who stood in the way of justice so Flynn wouldn't sing on him.
I believe that the FBI knew that Sussman was lying. Mueller tried to trap Flynn after his investigation had already learned that the allegations of Russian collusion were a hoax. In the case of Sussman, he lied to the FBI to protect Clinton and the DNC but Comey didn't care because he was a party to the hoax and accepting Sussman's lie at face value was a part of the cover-up.

Mueller completed his investigation and Trump did not interfere in the investigation. Trump fired Comey because he is a liar and a crook.
of course you do...

Sussmen was working with Dems and Flynn was working for Trump.  

Flynn lied to Pence and the FBI.  He admitted he lied in court.  He was pardoned by Trump not exonerated.  

This is just another example of you being a political hack.
Russian collusion was a hoax. Sussman was part of the hoax. Clinton, Comey, Obama, and Biden were part of the hoax. The Steele dossier was paid for by the Democrats and presented to the FISA Court as hard evidence. John Durham is investigating a real crime. Mueller and his team of Democrat lawyers were covering up a hoax. The source of the political hackery, in this case, is becoming very clear. The hoax is all on the Democrats and you are still acting as if Trump was colluding with the Russians. The problem for you is that the conservatives who post here figured out the truth about the Democrat hoaxters and their cheerleaders a long time ago. Thanks to you and your ilk, we have had a lot of practice in separating truth from fiction.
#7
(09-17-2021, 11:08 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:51 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:43 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:29 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait...Wait...Wait

Lying to the FBI is a crime?!!!  Aren't you the same guy who dies on the Michael Flynn hill of the evil FBI and their unlawful tactics?

Big Grin 

The difference is Biden will allow justice to be served instead of the previous President who stood in the way of justice so Flynn wouldn't sing on him.
I believe that the FBI knew that Sussman was lying. Mueller tried to trap Flynn after his investigation had already learned that the allegations of Russian collusion were a hoax. In the case of Sussman, he lied to the FBI to protect Clinton and the DNC but Comey didn't care because he was a party to the hoax and accepting Sussman's lie at face value was a part of the cover-up.

Mueller completed his investigation and Trump did not interfere in the investigation. Trump fired Comey because he is a liar and a crook.
of course you do...

Sussmen was working with Dems and Flynn was working for Trump.  

Flynn lied to Pence and the FBI.  He admitted he lied in court.  He was pardoned by Trump not exonerated.  

This is just another example of you being a political hack.
Russian collusion was a hoax. Sussman was part of the hoax. Clinton, Comey, Obama, and Biden were part of the hoax. The Steele dossier was paid for by the Democrats and presented to the FISA Court as hard evidence. John Durham is investigating a real crime. Mueller and his team of Democrat lawyers were covering up a hoax. The source of the political hackery, in this case, is becoming very clear. The hoax is all on the Democrats and you are still acting as if Trump was colluding with the Russians. The problem for you is that the conservatives who post here figured out the truth about the Democrat hoaxters and their cheerleaders a long time ago. Thanks to you and your ilk, we have had a lot of practice in separating truth from fiction.
Good to know lying to the FBI is ok for the party of law and order but not for others.  Hypocrisy.  
The guy deserves his day in court. 

DJT advisors and Russian collusion was not a hoax.  Nothing being done exonerates the crooks Trump sent to do his dirty work. Maybe they couldn't pin it on Trump, but when you think of it the mob bosses never go to prison over the dead bodies, it's always the underlings.  

You boys wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you across the orange-stained lips.  Big Grin
#8
(09-17-2021, 01:19 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 11:08 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:51 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:43 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:29 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait...Wait...Wait

Lying to the FBI is a crime?!!!  Aren't you the same guy who dies on the Michael Flynn hill of the evil FBI and their unlawful tactics?

Big Grin 

The difference is Biden will allow justice to be served instead of the previous President who stood in the way of justice so Flynn wouldn't sing on him.
I believe that the FBI knew that Sussman was lying. Mueller tried to trap Flynn after his investigation had already learned that the allegations of Russian collusion were a hoax. In the case of Sussman, he lied to the FBI to protect Clinton and the DNC but Comey didn't care because he was a party to the hoax and accepting Sussman's lie at face value was a part of the cover-up.

Mueller completed his investigation and Trump did not interfere in the investigation. Trump fired Comey because he is a liar and a crook.
of course you do...

Sussmen was working with Dems and Flynn was working for Trump.  

Flynn lied to Pence and the FBI.  He admitted he lied in court.  He was pardoned by Trump not exonerated.  

This is just another example of you being a political hack.
Russian collusion was a hoax. Sussman was part of the hoax. Clinton, Comey, Obama, and Biden were part of the hoax. The Steele dossier was paid for by the Democrats and presented to the FISA Court as hard evidence. John Durham is investigating a real crime. Mueller and his team of Democrat lawyers were covering up a hoax. The source of the political hackery, in this case, is becoming very clear. The hoax is all on the Democrats and you are still acting as if Trump was colluding with the Russians. The problem for you is that the conservatives who post here figured out the truth about the Democrat hoaxters and their cheerleaders a long time ago. Thanks to you and your ilk, we have had a lot of practice in separating truth from fiction.
Good to know lying to the FBI is ok for the party of law and order but not for others.  Hypocrisy.  
The guy deserves his day in court. 

DJT advisors and Russian collusion was not a hoax.  Nothing being done exonerates the crooks Trump sent to do his dirty work. Maybe they couldn't pin it on Trump, but when you think of it the mob bosses never go to prison over the dead bodies, it's always the underlings.  

You boys wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you across the orange-stained lips.  Big Grin
There was no evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians, a Special Counsel with a large team of partisan Democrat investigators and attorneys could find no evidence of collusion, the lawyer who pushed the fictional Steele Report, which was prepared for Hillary Clinton, to the FBI has been indicted for hiding the fact that he was billing his work to the Clinton Foundation and the DNC - but Cardfan1 believes that Trump is guilty of collusion because some mob bosses never go to prison.

That is quite a delusion that you have going on in that little head of yours, Cardfan1. Fortunately, wishful thinking is not recognized as the basis for incarcerating people in this country.
#9
(09-17-2021, 01:19 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 11:08 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:51 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:43 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:29 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait...Wait...Wait

Lying to the FBI is a crime?!!!  Aren't you the same guy who dies on the Michael Flynn hill of the evil FBI and their unlawful tactics?

Big Grin 

The difference is Biden will allow justice to be served instead of the previous President who stood in the way of justice so Flynn wouldn't sing on him.
I believe that the FBI knew that Sussman was lying. Mueller tried to trap Flynn after his investigation had already learned that the allegations of Russian collusion were a hoax. In the case of Sussman, he lied to the FBI to protect Clinton and the DNC but Comey didn't care because he was a party to the hoax and accepting Sussman's lie at face value was a part of the cover-up.

Mueller completed his investigation and Trump did not interfere in the investigation. Trump fired Comey because he is a liar and a crook.
of course you do...

Sussmen was working with Dems and Flynn was working for Trump.  

Flynn lied to Pence and the FBI.  He admitted he lied in court.  He was pardoned by Trump not exonerated.  

This is just another example of you being a political hack.
Russian collusion was a hoax. Sussman was part of the hoax. Clinton, Comey, Obama, and Biden were part of the hoax. The Steele dossier was paid for by the Democrats and presented to the FISA Court as hard evidence. John Durham is investigating a real crime. Mueller and his team of Democrat lawyers were covering up a hoax. The source of the political hackery, in this case, is becoming very clear. The hoax is all on the Democrats and you are still acting as if Trump was colluding with the Russians. The problem for you is that the conservatives who post here figured out the truth about the Democrat hoaxters and their cheerleaders a long time ago. Thanks to you and your ilk, we have had a lot of practice in separating truth from fiction.
Good to know lying to the FBI is ok for the party of law and order but not for others.  Hypocrisy.  
The guy deserves his day in court. 

DJT advisors and Russian collusion was not a hoax.  Nothing being done exonerates the crooks Trump sent to do his dirty work. Maybe they couldn't pin it on Trump, but when you think of it the mob bosses never go to prison over the dead bodies, it's always the underlings.  

You boys wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you across the orange-stained lips.  Big Grin


Jet has you just right Cardfan, if you're awake you're lying.

I heard from James Comey's own lips his admission to framing Flynn out of thin air. But not to worry, since you love lies so much you should be in good spirits. The day of lies and only lies will be upon us before you know it. Followed by what should be every men's ultimate concern, which is the fact that every lie will be played back at the judgment; and they will ring in every man's ears for eternity.
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#10
It's about what I would expect from the Clintons and their entourage, also why I have never voted for a Clinton.
#11
(09-18-2021, 12:39 PM)The Outsider Wrote: It's about what I would expect from the Clintons and their entourage, also why I have never voted for a Clinton.


Whew. At last common ground! Nonetheless if Dems just jumped up and declared Clinton President, (which at this point doesn't quite seem impossible) your buddy Cardfan would be be in heaven.
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#12
Clinton did win the popular vote after what we have seen the last 10 months maybe she should of demanded election audits. She had a better case than Trump

Yes there was Russian Collusion Durham biggest waste of tax payers money since Benghazi. Supposed to find any wrong doing by the FBI and all he could find someone lied to the FBI maybe Trump will pardon him when he over turns the last election.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/...e-colluder

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/site...df#page=93

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/site...df#page=94

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/site...df#page=92

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/site...df#page=80

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0126

https://www.lawfareblog.com/new-russia-s...unanswered
#13
^Sussman lied to cover up the Russian hoax against him. Why would Trump pardon somebody for a crime committed during the commission of a hoax aimed at removing Trump from office? That makes no sense.
#14
(09-18-2021, 03:33 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: ^Sussman lied to cover up the Russian hoax against him. Why would Trump pardon somebody for a crime committed during the commission of a hoax aimed at removing Trump from office? That makes no sense.
Hoot maybe he likes to pardon people that has lied to the FBI we all know he has already done it once
#15
(09-17-2021, 03:48 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 01:19 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 11:08 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:51 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:43 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: I believe that the FBI knew that Sussman was lying. Mueller tried to trap Flynn after his investigation had already learned that the allegations of Russian collusion were a hoax. In the case of Sussman, he lied to the FBI to protect Clinton and the DNC but Comey didn't care because he was a party to the hoax and accepting Sussman's lie at face value was a part of the cover-up.

Mueller completed his investigation and Trump did not interfere in the investigation. Trump fired Comey because he is a liar and a crook.
of course you do...

Sussmen was working with Dems and Flynn was working for Trump.  

Flynn lied to Pence and the FBI.  He admitted he lied in court.  He was pardoned by Trump not exonerated.  

This is just another example of you being a political hack.
Russian collusion was a hoax. Sussman was part of the hoax. Clinton, Comey, Obama, and Biden were part of the hoax. The Steele dossier was paid for by the Democrats and presented to the FISA Court as hard evidence. John Durham is investigating a real crime. Mueller and his team of Democrat lawyers were covering up a hoax. The source of the political hackery, in this case, is becoming very clear. The hoax is all on the Democrats and you are still acting as if Trump was colluding with the Russians. The problem for you is that the conservatives who post here figured out the truth about the Democrat hoaxters and their cheerleaders a long time ago. Thanks to you and your ilk, we have had a lot of practice in separating truth from fiction.
Good to know lying to the FBI is ok for the party of law and order but not for others.  Hypocrisy.  
The guy deserves his day in court. 

DJT advisors and Russian collusion was not a hoax.  Nothing being done exonerates the crooks Trump sent to do his dirty work. Maybe they couldn't pin it on Trump, but when you think of it the mob bosses never go to prison over the dead bodies, it's always the underlings.  

You boys wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you across the orange-stained lips.  Big Grin
There was no evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians, a Special Counsel with a large team of partisan Democrat investigators and attorneys could find no evidence of collusion, the lawyer who pushed the fictional Steele Report, which was prepared for Hillary Clinton, to the FBI has been indicted for hiding the fact that he was billing his work to the Clinton Foundation and the DNC - but Cardfan1 believes that Trump is guilty of collusion because some mob bosses never go to prison.

That is quite a delusion that you have going on in that little head of yours, Cardfan1. Fortunately, wishful thinking is not recognized as the basis for incarcerating people in this country.
Did Trump associates collude? 

please spare us from 3 paragraphs of BS and answer the damn question.

(09-18-2021, 11:07 AM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 01:19 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 11:08 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:51 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:43 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: I believe that the FBI knew that Sussman was lying. Mueller tried to trap Flynn after his investigation had already learned that the allegations of Russian collusion were a hoax. In the case of Sussman, he lied to the FBI to protect Clinton and the DNC but Comey didn't care because he was a party to the hoax and accepting Sussman's lie at face value was a part of the cover-up.

Mueller completed his investigation and Trump did not interfere in the investigation. Trump fired Comey because he is a liar and a crook.
of course you do...

Sussmen was working with Dems and Flynn was working for Trump.  

Flynn lied to Pence and the FBI.  He admitted he lied in court.  He was pardoned by Trump not exonerated.  

This is just another example of you being a political hack.
Russian collusion was a hoax. Sussman was part of the hoax. Clinton, Comey, Obama, and Biden were part of the hoax. The Steele dossier was paid for by the Democrats and presented to the FISA Court as hard evidence. John Durham is investigating a real crime. Mueller and his team of Democrat lawyers were covering up a hoax. The source of the political hackery, in this case, is becoming very clear. The hoax is all on the Democrats and you are still acting as if Trump was colluding with the Russians. The problem for you is that the conservatives who post here figured out the truth about the Democrat hoaxters and their cheerleaders a long time ago. Thanks to you and your ilk, we have had a lot of practice in separating truth from fiction.
Good to know lying to the FBI is ok for the party of law and order but not for others.  Hypocrisy.  
The guy deserves his day in court. 

DJT advisors and Russian collusion was not a hoax.  Nothing being done exonerates the crooks Trump sent to do his dirty work. Maybe they couldn't pin it on Trump, but when you think of it the mob bosses never go to prison over the dead bodies, it's always the underlings.  

You boys wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you across the orange-stained lips.  Big Grin


Jet has you just right Cardfan, if you're awake you're lying.

I heard from James Comey's own lips his admission to framing Flynn out of thin air. But not to worry, since you love lies so much you should be in good spirits. The day of lies and only lies will be upon us before you know it. Followed by what should be every men's ultimate concern, which is the fact that every lie will be played back at the judgment; and they will ring in every man's ears for eternity.
No, you didn’t.  When did Comey admit to framing Flynn?
#16
After 29 months Durham has cleared Comey and the FBI he has nothing. Someone is accused of lying to the FBI that's it. At least in Comey's case he got Flynn to admit twice in a sworn statement and plead guilty that he lied Durham hasn't even got that good luck getting a jury convicting this witch hunt.
#17
(09-19-2021, 08:22 AM)vector#1 Wrote: After 29 months Durham has cleared Comey and the FBI he has nothing. Someone is accused of lying to the FBI that's it. At least in Comey's case he got Flynn to admit twice in a sworn statement and plead guilty that he lied Durham hasn't even got that good luck getting a jury convicting this witch hunt.
This thread is about the Durham investigation, which is ongoing. The Mueller investigation is history and came up empty-handed. Russian collusion was a hoax based on a "dossier" paid for by Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.
#18
(09-19-2021, 09:01 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-19-2021, 08:22 AM)vector#1 Wrote: After 29 months Durham has cleared Comey and the FBI he has nothing. Someone is accused of lying to the FBI that's it. At least in Comey's case he got Flynn to admit twice in a sworn statement and plead guilty that he lied Durham hasn't even got that good luck getting a jury convicting this witch hunt.
This thread is about the Durham investigation, which is ongoing. The Mueller investigation is history and came up empty-handed. Russian collusion was a hoax based on a "dossier" paid for by Hillary Clinton and the Democrats.
After 29 months Hoot Durham who was supposed to find out if Comey or the FBI did something wrong. But Durham cleared Comey and the FBI 29 months and hundreds of millions dollars wasted got nothing now that's a witch hunt.
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#19
It's going to be interesting to learn who the "Tech Executive" and Clinton Foundation people mentioned in the indictment are.

Quote:Indictment Shows that John Durham Is Going After More People than Michael Sussmann

Let me start by acknowledging the legitimate skepticism of many Gateway Pundit commentators that any justice will come out of John Durham’s work. You have been promised the moon in the past and instead received a flaming bag of dog poop.

But let’s accept the fact that yesterday’s news that DNC lawyer Michael Sussmann was going to be indicted turned out to be true. Charlie Brown got to kick the football this time.

So what does this mean? Is it a meaningless gesture or the first domino to fall in a line of dominoes? I think this is just the first domino to fall and that others will come. I base this on what the indictment says.

If you have the time, please read the indictment (here).


Durham’s indictment of Sussmann lays out the foundation of a conspiracy. Michael Sussman was indicted for lying to the FBI about the source of information he gave the Bureau. He claimed he got it independently. He did not. It was bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton and her campaign. The indictment essentially charges Sussmann with sending the FBI on a wild goose chase:
Quote:The FBI had, in fact, initiated an investigation of these allegations in response to a meeting that MICHAEL A. SUSSMANN, the defendant herein– a lawyer at a major international law firm (“ Law Firm -1”, i.e. Perkins Coie) – requested and held with the FBI General Counsel on or about September 19, 2016 at FBI Headquarters in the District of Columbia. SUSSMANN provided to the FBI General Counsel three “ white papers” along with data files allegedly containing evidence supporting the existence of this purported secret communications channel.

During the meeting, SUSSMANN lied about the capacity in which he was providing the allega to the FBI Specifically, SUSSMANN stated falsely that he was not doing his work on the aforementioned allegations “ any client,” which led the FBI General Counsel to understand that SUSSMANN was acting as a good citizen merely passing along information , not as a paid advocate or political operative . In fact, and as alleged in further detail below, this statement was intentionally false and misleading because, in assembling and conveying these allegations, SUSSMANN acted on behalf of specific clients, namely, ( i ) a U.S. technology industry executive (“ Tech Executive- 1”) at a U.S. Internet company “Internet Company”) , and ( ii) the Hillary Clinton Presidential Campaign (the “Clinton Campaign”).
That “Tech Executive” and the Hillary Clinton Campaign are now possible targets. The critical question is whether or not Sussmann was acting on his own. The indictment states he was acting at the behest of the Tech Executive and Hillary. It would be prosecutorial incompetence if they had not already be interviewed and evidence collected against them.

Paragraph 6 of the indictment gives a strong indication of how Durham and this team view Sussmann’s lie:

Quote:Had the FBI uncovered the origins of the relevant data and analysis, and as alleged below, it might have learned, among other things , that ( i ) in compiling and analyzing the Russian Bank- 1 allegations, Tech Executive- 1 had exploited his access to non-public data at multiple Internet companies to conduct opposition research concerning Trump; ( ii) in furtherance of these efforts, Tech Executive- 1 had enlisted, and was continuing to enlist, the assistance of researchers at a U.S.-based university who were receiving and analyzing Internet data in connection with a pending federal government cybersecurity research contract ; and ( ) SUSSMANN , Tech Executive, and Law Firm- 1 had coordinated, and were continuing to coordinate, with representatives and agents of the Clinton Campaign with regard to the data and written materials that SUSSMANN gave to the FBI and the media.
First, pay close attention to the indictment’s claim that “non public data” from a “federal government research contract” was being used to bait the FBI. I believe that is a criminal act. Second, the indictment makes it very clear that Sussmann, the Tech Executive and Perkins Coie did not just commit one act of conspiracy. Nope. They were “continuing to co-ordinate with representatives and agents of the Clinton Campaign.” This means it was not just one person working on the Clinton Campaign. It was many people.
#20
(09-19-2021, 05:19 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: It's going to be interesting to learn who the "Tech Executive" and Clinton Foundation people mentioned in the indictment are.

Quote:Indictment Shows that John Durham Is Going After More People than Michael Sussmann

Let me start by acknowledging the legitimate skepticism of many Gateway Pundit commentators that any justice will come out of John Durham’s work. You have been promised the moon in the past and instead received a flaming bag of dog poop.

But let’s accept the fact that yesterday’s news that DNC lawyer Michael Sussmann was going to be indicted turned out to be true. Charlie Brown got to kick the football this time.

So what does this mean? Is it a meaningless gesture or the first domino to fall in a line of dominoes? I think this is just the first domino to fall and that others will come. I base this on what the indictment says.

If you have the time, please read the indictment (here).


Durham’s indictment of Sussmann lays out the foundation of a conspiracy. Michael Sussman was indicted for lying to the FBI about the source of information he gave the Bureau. He claimed he got it independently. He did not. It was bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton and her campaign. The indictment essentially charges Sussmann with sending the FBI on a wild goose chase:
Quote:The FBI had, in fact, initiated an investigation of these allegations in response to a meeting that MICHAEL A. SUSSMANN, the defendant herein– a lawyer at a major international law firm (“ Law Firm -1”, i.e. Perkins Coie) – requested and held with the FBI General Counsel on or about September 19, 2016 at FBI Headquarters in the District of Columbia. SUSSMANN provided to the FBI General Counsel three “ white papers” along with data files allegedly containing evidence supporting the existence of this purported secret communications channel.

During the meeting, SUSSMANN lied about the capacity in which he was providing the allega to the FBI Specifically, SUSSMANN stated falsely that he was not doing his work on the aforementioned allegations “ any client,” which led the FBI General Counsel to understand that SUSSMANN was acting as a good citizen merely passing along information , not as a paid advocate or political operative . In fact, and as alleged in further detail below, this statement was intentionally false and misleading because, in assembling and conveying these allegations, SUSSMANN acted on behalf of specific clients, namely, ( i ) a U.S. technology industry executive (“ Tech Executive- 1”) at a U.S. Internet company “Internet Company”) , and ( ii) the Hillary Clinton Presidential Campaign (the “Clinton Campaign”).
That “Tech Executive” and the Hillary Clinton Campaign are now possible targets. The critical question is whether or not Sussmann was acting on his own. The indictment states he was acting at the behest of the Tech Executive and Hillary. It would be prosecutorial incompetence if they had not already be interviewed and evidence collected against them.

Paragraph 6 of the indictment gives a strong indication of how Durham and this team view Sussmann’s lie:

Quote:Had the FBI uncovered the origins of the relevant data and analysis, and as alleged below, it might have learned, among other things , that ( i ) in compiling and analyzing the Russian Bank- 1 allegations, Tech Executive- 1 had exploited his access to non-public data at multiple Internet companies to conduct opposition research concerning Trump; ( ii) in furtherance of these efforts, Tech Executive- 1 had enlisted, and was continuing to enlist, the assistance of researchers at a U.S.-based university who were receiving and analyzing Internet data in connection with a pending federal government cybersecurity research contract ; and ( ) SUSSMANN , Tech Executive, and Law Firm- 1 had coordinated, and were continuing to coordinate, with representatives and agents of the Clinton Campaign with regard to the data and written materials that SUSSMANN gave to the FBI and the media.
First, pay close attention to the indictment’s claim that “non public data” from a “federal government research contract” was being used to bait the FBI. I believe that is a criminal act. Second, the indictment makes it very clear that Sussmann, the Tech Executive and Perkins Coie did not just commit one act of conspiracy. Nope. They were “continuing to co-ordinate with representatives and agents of the Clinton Campaign.” This means it was not just one person working on the Clinton Campaign. It was many people.
Hoot only truth from this opinion piece is the first paragraph
"Let me start by acknowledging the legitimate skepticism of many Gateway Pundit commentators that any justice will come out of John Durham’s work. You have been promised the moon in the past and instead received a flaming bag of dog poop."
In other words Hoot it's Dog Poop


Hoot here is the REAL INDICTMENT not someone's opinion of it

https://www.scribd.com/document/52572656...Indictment

Durham was appointed by then-Attorney General William Barr in early 2019 to pursue Trump's and Barr's suspicions that the FBI and US intelligence agencies had committed wrongdoing in their pursuit of the Trump-Russia investigation. In a review that has now lasted longer than Mueller's investigation, Durham largely has failed to deliver what Trump wanted.
In fact Durham has cleared Comey and the FBI at the same time wasting hundreds of millions of dollars
now Hooter and TRT that's what a REAL witch hunt looks like.
#21

(09-18-2021, 11:07 AM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 01:19 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 11:08 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:51 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: of course you do...

Sussmen was working with Dems and Flynn was working for Trump.  

Flynn lied to Pence and the FBI.  He admitted he lied in court.  He was pardoned by Trump not exonerated.  

This is just another example of you being a political hack.
Russian collusion was a hoax. Sussman was part of the hoax. Clinton, Comey, Obama, and Biden were part of the hoax. The Steele dossier was paid for by the Democrats and presented to the FISA Court as hard evidence. John Durham is investigating a real crime. Mueller and his team of Democrat lawyers were covering up a hoax. The source of the political hackery, in this case, is becoming very clear. The hoax is all on the Democrats and you are still acting as if Trump was colluding with the Russians. The problem for you is that the conservatives who post here figured out the truth about the Democrat hoaxters and their cheerleaders a long time ago. Thanks to you and your ilk, we have had a lot of practice in separating truth from fiction.
Good to know lying to the FBI is ok for the party of law and order but not for others.  Hypocrisy.  
The guy deserves his day in court. 

DJT advisors and Russian collusion was not a hoax.  Nothing being done exonerates the crooks Trump sent to do his dirty work. Maybe they couldn't pin it on Trump, but when you think of it the mob bosses never go to prison over the dead bodies, it's always the underlings.  

You boys wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you across the orange-stained lips.  Big Grin


Jet has you just right Cardfan, if you're awake you're lying.

I heard from James Comey's own lips his admission to framing Flynn out of thin air. But not to worry, since you love lies so much you should be in good spirits. The day of lies and only lies will be upon us before you know it. Followed by what should be every men's ultimate concern, which is the fact that every lie will be played back at the judgment; and they will ring in every man's ears for eternity.

Cardfan Wrote:
No, you didn’t.  When did Comey admit to framing Flynn?






 Oh yes I did Mr Liar. It was on TV, and make sure you watch National Review Editor Andrew McCarthy's comments regarding MR Comey's aired interview.
 
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...house.html
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#22
(09-19-2021, 05:57 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(09-18-2021, 11:07 AM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 01:19 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 11:08 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 10:51 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: of course you do...

Sussmen was working with Dems and Flynn was working for Trump.  

Flynn lied to Pence and the FBI.  He admitted he lied in court.  He was pardoned by Trump not exonerated.  

This is just another example of you being a political hack.
Russian collusion was a hoax. Sussman was part of the hoax. Clinton, Comey, Obama, and Biden were part of the hoax. The Steele dossier was paid for by the Democrats and presented to the FISA Court as hard evidence. John Durham is investigating a real crime. Mueller and his team of Democrat lawyers were covering up a hoax. The source of the political hackery, in this case, is becoming very clear. The hoax is all on the Democrats and you are still acting as if Trump was colluding with the Russians. The problem for you is that the conservatives who post here figured out the truth about the Democrat hoaxters and their cheerleaders a long time ago. Thanks to you and your ilk, we have had a lot of practice in separating truth from fiction.
Good to know lying to the FBI is ok for the party of law and order but not for others.  Hypocrisy.  
The guy deserves his day in court. 

DJT advisors and Russian collusion was not a hoax.  Nothing being done exonerates the crooks Trump sent to do his dirty work. Maybe they couldn't pin it on Trump, but when you think of it the mob bosses never go to prison over the dead bodies, it's always the underlings.  

You boys wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you across the orange-stained lips.  Big Grin


Jet has you just right Cardfan, if you're awake you're lying.

I heard from James Comey's own lips his admission to framing Flynn out of thin air. But not to worry, since you love lies so much you should be in good spirits. The day of lies and only lies will be upon us before you know it. Followed by what should be every men's ultimate concern, which is the fact that every lie will be played back at the judgment; and they will ring in every man's ears for eternity.

Cardfan Wrote:
No, you didn’t.  When did Comey admit to framing Flynn?






 Oh yes I did Mr Liar. It was on TV, and make sure you watch National Review Editor Andrew McCarthy's comments regarding MR Comey's aired interview.
 
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...house.html
TRT let's be honest about Comey if not for him Trump wouldn't have won in 2016. I guess you have forgot about Comey's announcement he has re-opened the Hillary investigation 10 days before the election. It would be hard to say which one done the most damage to Hillary Comey or the Russians. That's why Trump kept Comey on when he first took office he returned the favor.
In my opinion if not for Comey Trump would have lost the electoral vote as he did with the popular vote.
#23
(09-20-2021, 08:12 AM)vector#1 Wrote:
(09-19-2021, 05:57 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(09-18-2021, 11:07 AM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 01:19 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 11:08 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: Russian collusion was a hoax. Sussman was part of the hoax. Clinton, Comey, Obama, and Biden were part of the hoax. The Steele dossier was paid for by the Democrats and presented to the FISA Court as hard evidence. John Durham is investigating a real crime. Mueller and his team of Democrat lawyers were covering up a hoax. The source of the political hackery, in this case, is becoming very clear. The hoax is all on the Democrats and you are still acting as if Trump was colluding with the Russians. The problem for you is that the conservatives who post here figured out the truth about the Democrat hoaxters and their cheerleaders a long time ago. Thanks to you and your ilk, we have had a lot of practice in separating truth from fiction.
Good to know lying to the FBI is ok for the party of law and order but not for others.  Hypocrisy.  
The guy deserves his day in court. 

DJT advisors and Russian collusion was not a hoax.  Nothing being done exonerates the crooks Trump sent to do his dirty work. Maybe they couldn't pin it on Trump, but when you think of it the mob bosses never go to prison over the dead bodies, it's always the underlings.  

You boys wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you across the orange-stained lips.  Big Grin


Jet has you just right Cardfan, if you're awake you're lying.

I heard from James Comey's own lips his admission to framing Flynn out of thin air. But not to worry, since you love lies so much you should be in good spirits. The day of lies and only lies will be upon us before you know it. Followed by what should be every men's ultimate concern, which is the fact that every lie will be played back at the judgment; and they will ring in every man's ears for eternity.

Cardfan Wrote:
No, you didn’t.  When did Comey admit to framing Flynn?






 Oh yes I did Mr Liar. It was on TV, and make sure you watch National Review Editor Andrew McCarthy's comments regarding MR Comey's aired interview.
 
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...house.html
TRT let's be honest about Comey if not for him Trump wouldn't have won in 2016. I guess you have forgot about Comey's announcement he has re-opened the Hillary investigation 10 days before the election. It would be hard to say which one done the most damage to Hillary Comey or the Russians. That's why Trump kept Comey on when he first took office he returned the favor.
In my opinion if not for Comey Trump would have lost the electoral vote as he did with the popular vote.
If Comey had done his job and indicted Hillary for her crimes, Trump would have won in a landslide. Comey is the main reason that she is not in prison now.
#24
(09-20-2021, 08:22 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-20-2021, 08:12 AM)vector#1 Wrote:
(09-19-2021, 05:57 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(09-18-2021, 11:07 AM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(09-17-2021, 01:19 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Good to know lying to the FBI is ok for the party of law and order but not for others.  Hypocrisy.  
The guy deserves his day in court. 

DJT advisors and Russian collusion was not a hoax.  Nothing being done exonerates the crooks Trump sent to do his dirty work. Maybe they couldn't pin it on Trump, but when you think of it the mob bosses never go to prison over the dead bodies, it's always the underlings.  

You boys wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you across the orange-stained lips.  Big Grin


Jet has you just right Cardfan, if you're awake you're lying.

I heard from James Comey's own lips his admission to framing Flynn out of thin air. But not to worry, since you love lies so much you should be in good spirits. The day of lies and only lies will be upon us before you know it. Followed by what should be every men's ultimate concern, which is the fact that every lie will be played back at the judgment; and they will ring in every man's ears for eternity.

Cardfan Wrote:
No, you didn’t.  When did Comey admit to framing Flynn?






 Oh yes I did Mr Liar. It was on TV, and make sure you watch National Review Editor Andrew McCarthy's comments regarding MR Comey's aired interview.
 
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...house.html
TRT let's be honest about Comey if not for him Trump wouldn't have won in 2016. I guess you have forgot about Comey's announcement he has re-opened the Hillary investigation 10 days before the election. It would be hard to say which one done the most damage to Hillary Comey or the Russians. That's why Trump kept Comey on when he first took office he returned the favor.
In my opinion if not for Comey Trump would have lost the electoral vote as he did with the popular vote.
If Comey had done his job and indicted Hillary for her crimes, Trump would have won in a landslide. Comey is the main reason that she is not in prison now.
Hoot first did Biden win or did Trump win ?
It's not Comey's job to indict Hillary his job is to do the investigating that's all. If not for Comey Trump doesn't win and if you throw the Russian's help out Trump wouldn't even be in the ballpark.
#25
(09-20-2021, 08:26 AM)vector#1 Wrote:
(09-20-2021, 08:22 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-20-2021, 08:12 AM)vector#1 Wrote:
(09-19-2021, 05:57 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(09-18-2021, 11:07 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: Jet has you just right Cardfan, if you're awake you're lying.

I heard from James Comey's own lips his admission to framing Flynn out of thin air. But not to worry, since you love lies so much you should be in good spirits. The day of lies and only lies will be upon us before you know it. Followed by what should be every men's ultimate concern, which is the fact that every lie will be played back at the judgment; and they will ring in every man's ears for eternity.

Cardfan Wrote:
No, you didn’t.  When did Comey admit to framing Flynn?






 Oh yes I did Mr Liar. It was on TV, and make sure you watch National Review Editor Andrew McCarthy's comments regarding MR Comey's aired interview.
 
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...house.html
TRT let's be honest about Comey if not for him Trump wouldn't have won in 2016. I guess you have forgot about Comey's announcement he has re-opened the Hillary investigation 10 days before the election. It would be hard to say which one done the most damage to Hillary Comey or the Russians. That's why Trump kept Comey on when he first took office he returned the favor.
In my opinion if not for Comey Trump would have lost the electoral vote as he did with the popular vote.
If Comey had done his job and indicted Hillary for her crimes, Trump would have won in a landslide. Comey is the main reason that she is not in prison now.
Hoot first did Biden win or did Trump win ?
It's not Comey's job to indict Hillary his job is to do the investigating that's all. If not for Comey Trump doesn't win and if you throw the Russian's help out Trump wouldn't even be in the ballpark.
I will repeat one last time, vector#1, I strongly encourage you to stop repeating a question that I have already answered multiple times. If you persist in this spamming, then I will stop responding to any of your posts this week. That is about as clear as I can make it. The nonsense needs to stop.
#26
(09-20-2021, 08:30 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-20-2021, 08:26 AM)vector#1 Wrote:
(09-20-2021, 08:22 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(09-20-2021, 08:12 AM)vector#1 Wrote:
(09-19-2021, 05:57 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:

Cardfan Wrote:
No, you didn’t.  When did Comey admit to framing Flynn?






 Oh yes I did Mr Liar. It was on TV, and make sure you watch National Review Editor Andrew McCarthy's comments regarding MR Comey's aired interview.
 
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/...house.html
TRT let's be honest about Comey if not for him Trump wouldn't have won in 2016. I guess you have forgot about Comey's announcement he has re-opened the Hillary investigation 10 days before the election. It would be hard to say which one done the most damage to Hillary Comey or the Russians. That's why Trump kept Comey on when he first took office he returned the favor.
In my opinion if not for Comey Trump would have lost the electoral vote as he did with the popular vote.
If Comey had done his job and indicted Hillary for her crimes, Trump would have won in a landslide. Comey is the main reason that she is not in prison now.
Hoot first did Biden win or did Trump win ?
It's not Comey's job to indict Hillary his job is to do the investigating that's all. If not for Comey Trump doesn't win and if you throw the Russian's help out Trump wouldn't even be in the ballpark.
I will repeat one last time, vector#1, I strongly encourage you to stop repeating a question that I have already answered multiple times. If you persist in this spamming, then I will stop responding to any of your posts this week. That is about as clear as I can make it. The nonsense needs to stop.
Hoot first did Biden win or did Trump win ?
I see you have dodge the Fact Comey doesn't hand down the indictments. Now you have to agree without Comey's and the Russian's help Trump had no chance in 2016
#27
^^^Liberal propaganda and outright lies...
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#28
Like I said earlier WITCH HUNT

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...hp&pc=U531
#29
The Hill = liberal propaganda + outright lies.
#30
(09-20-2021, 02:09 PM)jetpilot Wrote: The Hill = liberal propaganda + outright lies.
Woah Woah Woah

The Hill is liberal propaganda?!!   uhhhh... My God Huh

What in the world do you call a solid balanced news source?

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