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U.S. officials provided Taliban with names of Americans, Afghan allies to evacuate
#1
The incompetence of President Joe Biden and his administration has no bounds. If you still support the imbecile, then you have blood on your hands.
Quote:U.S. officials provided Taliban with names of Americans, Afghan allies to evacuate

U.S. officials in Kabul gave the Taliban a list of names of American citizens, green card holders and Afghan allies to grant entry into the militant-controlled outer perimeter of the city’s airport, a choice that's prompted outrage behind the scenes from lawmakers and military officials.

The move, detailed to POLITICO by three U.S. and congressional officials, was designed to expedite the evacuation of tens of thousands of people from Afghanistan as chaos erupted in Afghanistan’s capital city last week after the Taliban seized control of the country. It also came as the Biden administration has been relying on the Taliban for security outside the airport.
#2
Wait wait...Trump could sign an ill-advised peace deal with this group and the Biden administration can't trust them to help with the withdrawal. Dr. Hooter, you show us daily you have a doctorate in Hypocrisy.
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#3
(08-27-2021, 10:04 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait wait...Trump could sign an ill-advised peace deal with this group and the Biden administration can't trust them to help with the withdrawal.    Dr. Hooter, you show us daily you have a doctorate in Hypocrisy.
Thank you for providing the dumbass perspective, as expected. We signed a cease fire deal with the North Koreans but we have never placed them in charge of guarding American troops and civilians in South Korea. Cease fire agreements and peace deals are not negotiated and signed between allies.

Only an idiot would defend providing the Taliban a list of American names and the names of Afghans who have helped in the war against the Taliban. You are fully qualified to provide such a defense.
#4
(08-27-2021, 10:24 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 10:04 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait wait...Trump could sign an ill-advised peace deal with this group and the Biden administration can't trust them to help with the withdrawal.    Dr. Hooter, you show us daily you have a doctorate in Hypocrisy.
Thank you for providing the dumbass perspective, as expected. We signed a cease fire deal with the North Koreans but we have never placed them in charge of guarding American troops and civilians in South Korea. Cease fire agreements and peace deals are not negotiated and signed between allies.

Only an idiot would defend providing the Taliban a list of American names and the names of Afghans who have helped in the war against the Taliban. You are fully qualified to provide such a defense.
Why would North Koreans be in South Korea?  Another nonsensical fallacy presented by Dr. Hooter.  

I didn't say it was a good plan, but there aren't any other options unless we surge some troops and that is a no for me. Anyway, these guys were trustworthy enough for your Tangerine Dream to sign on the dotted line last year, so why are you whining now? 

The terrorist attack makes the Taliban look terrible and weak if they truly were working with the US.  It's not logical to act as if they were guilty.  Why would they send a suicide bomber in...they have thousands of troops:  They could easily take the airport.
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(08-27-2021, 10:54 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 10:24 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 10:04 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait wait...Trump could sign an ill-advised peace deal with this group and the Biden administration can't trust them to help with the withdrawal.    Dr. Hooter, you show us daily you have a doctorate in Hypocrisy.
Thank you for providing the dumbass perspective, as expected. We signed a cease fire deal with the North Koreans but we have never placed them in charge of guarding American troops and civilians in South Korea. Cease fire agreements and peace deals are not negotiated and signed between allies.

Only an idiot would defend providing the Taliban a list of American names and the names of Afghans who have helped in the war against the Taliban. You are fully qualified to provide such a defense.
Why would North Koreans be in South Korea?  Another nonsensical fallacy presented by Dr. Hooter.  

I didn't say it was a good plan, but there aren't any other options unless we surge some troops and that is a no for me. Anyway, these guys were trustworthy enough for your Tangerine Dream to sign on the dotted line last year, so why are you whining now? 

The terrorist attack makes the Taliban look terrible and weak if they truly were working with the US.  It's not logical to act as if they were guilty.  Why would they send a suicide bomber in...they have thousands of troops:  They could easily take the airport.
To repeat, peace is negotiated between enemies, not between allies. Chamberlain signed an agreement with Hitler and Hitler wasted no time breaking it. Chamberlain did the honorable thing for being so gullible and resigned as the British PM. The terms of peace treaties must be enforced. The Taliban broke the terms of the deal and then Biden's administration put them in charge of securing the airport perimeter and provided them with what will surely be a kill list.

Will Biden do the honorable thing and resign? Of course not. Only honorable men act out of a sense of honor.
#6
(08-27-2021, 11:12 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 10:54 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 10:24 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 10:04 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait wait...Trump could sign an ill-advised peace deal with this group and the Biden administration can't trust them to help with the withdrawal.    Dr. Hooter, you show us daily you have a doctorate in Hypocrisy.
Thank you for providing the dumbass perspective, as expected. We signed a cease fire deal with the North Koreans but we have never placed them in charge of guarding American troops and civilians in South Korea. Cease fire agreements and peace deals are not negotiated and signed between allies.

Only an idiot would defend providing the Taliban a list of American names and the names of Afghans who have helped in the war against the Taliban. You are fully qualified to provide such a defense.
Why would North Koreans be in South Korea?  Another nonsensical fallacy presented by Dr. Hooter.  

I didn't say it was a good plan, but there aren't any other options unless we surge some troops and that is a no for me. Anyway, these guys were trustworthy enough for your Tangerine Dream to sign on the dotted line last year, so why are you whining now? 

The terrorist attack makes the Taliban look terrible and weak if they truly were working with the US.  It's not logical to act as if they were guilty.  Why would they send a suicide bomber in...they have thousands of troops:  They could easily take the airport.
To repeat, peace is negotiated between enemies, not between allies. Chamberlain signed an agreement with Hitler and Hitler wasted no time breaking it. Chamberlain did the honorable thing for being so gullible and resigned as the British PM. The terms of peace treaties must be enforced. The Taliban broke the terms of the deal and then Biden's administration put them in charge of securing the airport perimeter and provided them with what will surely be a kill list.

Will Biden do the honorable thing and resign? Of course not. Only honorable men act out of a sense of honor.
I'm not sure if the Taliban have violated their agreement with Trump and Pompous.  The Afghan govt just gave up and left, so technically it's still peaceful.  The other part of the agreement was preventing a terrorist foothold.  We will see.  

Why would Biden resign?  Did Bush resign when we found out the WMDs was nothing but a lie?  How about Reagan when we learned about his arms deals with Iran?  Obama when ISIS filled the vacuum in Iraq?  Trump when he abandoned the Kurds?  

Your bar for how well this was going to go is a little high, Dr. Hooter.  My thoughts and prayers are out there for all of our citizens and military personnel who struggling through this, but anyone thinking a withdrawal from wartorn Afghanistan was going to be easy is just obtuse.
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(08-27-2021, 11:51 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 11:12 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 10:54 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 10:24 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 10:04 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Wait wait...Trump could sign an ill-advised peace deal with this group and the Biden administration can't trust them to help with the withdrawal.    Dr. Hooter, you show us daily you have a doctorate in Hypocrisy.
Thank you for providing the dumbass perspective, as expected. We signed a cease fire deal with the North Koreans but we have never placed them in charge of guarding American troops and civilians in South Korea. Cease fire agreements and peace deals are not negotiated and signed between allies.

Only an idiot would defend providing the Taliban a list of American names and the names of Afghans who have helped in the war against the Taliban. You are fully qualified to provide such a defense.
Why would North Koreans be in South Korea?  Another nonsensical fallacy presented by Dr. Hooter.  

I didn't say it was a good plan, but there aren't any other options unless we surge some troops and that is a no for me. Anyway, these guys were trustworthy enough for your Tangerine Dream to sign on the dotted line last year, so why are you whining now? 

The terrorist attack makes the Taliban look terrible and weak if they truly were working with the US.  It's not logical to act as if they were guilty.  Why would they send a suicide bomber in...they have thousands of troops:  They could easily take the airport.
To repeat, peace is negotiated between enemies, not between allies. Chamberlain signed an agreement with Hitler and Hitler wasted no time breaking it. Chamberlain did the honorable thing for being so gullible and resigned as the British PM. The terms of peace treaties must be enforced. The Taliban broke the terms of the deal and then Biden's administration put them in charge of securing the airport perimeter and provided them with what will surely be a kill list.

Will Biden do the honorable thing and resign? Of course not. Only honorable men act out of a sense of honor.
I'm not sure if the Taliban have violated their agreement with Trump and Pompous.  The Afghan govt just gave up and left, so technically it's still peaceful.  The other part of the agreement was preventing a terrorist foothold.  We will see.  

Why would Biden resign?  Did Bush resign when we found out the WMDs was nothing but a lie?  How about Reagan when we learned about his arms deals with Iran?  Obama when ISIS filled the vacuum in Iraq?  Trump when he abandoned the Kurds?  

Your bar for how well this was going to go is a little high, Dr. Hooter.  My thoughts and prayers are out there for all of our citizens and military personnel who struggling through this, but anyone thinking a withdrawal from wartorn Afghanistan was going to be easy is just obtuse.
Well, Trump is not president, so whose responsibility was it to monitor the Taliban and make sure that they complied with the agreement that they signed? Biden failed to meet the deadline for withdrawal of May 1 that Trump set. Trump's responsibility for enforcing the agreement that was signed with the Taliban ended when Biden took the Oath of Office.

None of the examples that you cited approach the level of incompetence that Biden has displayed during the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Biden's operation allowed the Taliban to violate major parts of the agreement, allowed the Taliban to surround the airport used for evacuating Americans, surrendered $83 billion worth of military equipment, vehicles, and advanced weapons to a terrorist organization, and allowed the Taliban to dictate the adherence to the August 31 deadline to exit Afghanistan that Biden set. And you seriously ask the question, "Why would Biden resign?" You are a total clown. Look at your feet. Are your shoes bigger than size 20? If not, they ought to be.
#8
(08-27-2021, 12:10 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 11:51 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 11:12 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 10:54 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 10:24 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: Thank you for providing the dumbass perspective, as expected. We signed a cease fire deal with the North Koreans but we have never placed them in charge of guarding American troops and civilians in South Korea. Cease fire agreements and peace deals are not negotiated and signed between allies.

Only an idiot would defend providing the Taliban a list of American names and the names of Afghans who have helped in the war against the Taliban. You are fully qualified to provide such a defense.
Why would North Koreans be in South Korea?  Another nonsensical fallacy presented by Dr. Hooter.  

I didn't say it was a good plan, but there aren't any other options unless we surge some troops and that is a no for me. Anyway, these guys were trustworthy enough for your Tangerine Dream to sign on the dotted line last year, so why are you whining now? 

The terrorist attack makes the Taliban look terrible and weak if they truly were working with the US.  It's not logical to act as if they were guilty.  Why would they send a suicide bomber in...they have thousands of troops:  They could easily take the airport.
To repeat, peace is negotiated between enemies, not between allies. Chamberlain signed an agreement with Hitler and Hitler wasted no time breaking it. Chamberlain did the honorable thing for being so gullible and resigned as the British PM. The terms of peace treaties must be enforced. The Taliban broke the terms of the deal and then Biden's administration put them in charge of securing the airport perimeter and provided them with what will surely be a kill list.

Will Biden do the honorable thing and resign? Of course not. Only honorable men act out of a sense of honor.
I'm not sure if the Taliban have violated their agreement with Trump and Pompous.  The Afghan govt just gave up and left, so technically it's still peaceful.  The other part of the agreement was preventing a terrorist foothold.  We will see.  

Why would Biden resign?  Did Bush resign when we found out the WMDs was nothing but a lie?  How about Reagan when we learned about his arms deals with Iran?  Obama when ISIS filled the vacuum in Iraq?  Trump when he abandoned the Kurds?  

Your bar for how well this was going to go is a little high, Dr. Hooter.  My thoughts and prayers are out there for all of our citizens and military personnel who struggling through this, but anyone thinking a withdrawal from wartorn Afghanistan was going to be easy is just obtuse.
Well, Trump is not president, so whose responsibility was it to monitor the Taliban and make sure that they complied with the agreement that they signed? Biden failed to meet the deadline for withdrawal of May 1 that Trump set. Trump's responsibility for enforcing the agreement that was signed with the Taliban ended when Biden took the Oath of Office.

None of the examples that you cited approach the level of incompetence that Biden has displayed during the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Biden's operation allowed the Taliban to violate major parts of the agreement, allowed the Taliban to surround the airport used for evacuating Americans, surrendered $83 billion worth of military equipment, vehicles, and advanced weapons to a terrorist organization, and allowed the Taliban to dictate the adherence to the August 31 deadline to exit Afghanistan that Biden set. And you seriously ask the question, "Why would Biden resign?" You are a total clown. Look at your feet. Are your shoes bigger than size 20? If not, they ought to be.

Dear DisHonorable Doctor Hooter of Hypocrisy


On that we agree:  Trump is not president.   You are suggesting that if Trump were in office this would have gone better, or he would send us right back in.  That is the worst-case scenario unless you love your defense contracts and we know you do. 

What major parts were violated? 

Surrendered $83 billion in equipment...are you referring to the equipment left for the Afghan national army that gave up?   

Oh, the terrorist organization Donald Trump and Mike Pompous signed a treaty with? 

Biden seems to be sticking with 31st and with just 1k more Americans there looks like that will be completed by then.   It's time to get out.  One more day is too many.
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(08-27-2021, 12:23 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 12:10 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 11:51 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 11:12 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 10:54 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Why would North Koreans be in South Korea?  Another nonsensical fallacy presented by Dr. Hooter.  

I didn't say it was a good plan, but there aren't any other options unless we surge some troops and that is a no for me. Anyway, these guys were trustworthy enough for your Tangerine Dream to sign on the dotted line last year, so why are you whining now? 

The terrorist attack makes the Taliban look terrible and weak if they truly were working with the US.  It's not logical to act as if they were guilty.  Why would they send a suicide bomber in...they have thousands of troops:  They could easily take the airport.
To repeat, peace is negotiated between enemies, not between allies. Chamberlain signed an agreement with Hitler and Hitler wasted no time breaking it. Chamberlain did the honorable thing for being so gullible and resigned as the British PM. The terms of peace treaties must be enforced. The Taliban broke the terms of the deal and then Biden's administration put them in charge of securing the airport perimeter and provided them with what will surely be a kill list.

Will Biden do the honorable thing and resign? Of course not. Only honorable men act out of a sense of honor.
I'm not sure if the Taliban have violated their agreement with Trump and Pompous.  The Afghan govt just gave up and left, so technically it's still peaceful.  The other part of the agreement was preventing a terrorist foothold.  We will see.  

Why would Biden resign?  Did Bush resign when we found out the WMDs was nothing but a lie?  How about Reagan when we learned about his arms deals with Iran?  Obama when ISIS filled the vacuum in Iraq?  Trump when he abandoned the Kurds?  

Your bar for how well this was going to go is a little high, Dr. Hooter.  My thoughts and prayers are out there for all of our citizens and military personnel who struggling through this, but anyone thinking a withdrawal from wartorn Afghanistan was going to be easy is just obtuse.
Well, Trump is not president, so whose responsibility was it to monitor the Taliban and make sure that they complied with the agreement that they signed? Biden failed to meet the deadline for withdrawal of May 1 that Trump set. Trump's responsibility for enforcing the agreement that was signed with the Taliban ended when Biden took the Oath of Office.

None of the examples that you cited approach the level of incompetence that Biden has displayed during the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Biden's operation allowed the Taliban to violate major parts of the agreement, allowed the Taliban to surround the airport used for evacuating Americans, surrendered $83 billion worth of military equipment, vehicles, and advanced weapons to a terrorist organization, and allowed the Taliban to dictate the adherence to the August 31 deadline to exit Afghanistan that Biden set. And you seriously ask the question, "Why would Biden resign?" You are a total clown. Look at your feet. Are your shoes bigger than size 20? If not, they ought to be.

Dear DisHonorable Doctor Hooter of Hypocrisy


On that we agree:  Trump is not president.   You are suggesting that if Trump were in office this would have gone better, or he would send us right back in.  That is the worst-case scenario unless you love your defense contracts and we know you do. 

What major parts were violated? 

Surrendered $83 billion in equipment...are you referring to the equipment left for the Afghan national army that gave up?   

Oh, the terrorist organization Donald Trump and Mike Pompous signed a treaty with? 

Biden seems to be sticking with 31st and with just 1k more Americans there looks like that will be completed by then.   It's time to get out.  One more day is too many.
This was going to be a mess no matter who was President when you pull out of a war zone these last days are going to be worse.
I think it was ISIS who did the bombing not the Taliban. Bush get's 3,000 Americans killed in NY lied about WMD'S did the democrats call on him to resign NO they got behind him and helped him not these Trumpsters they are all about Trump it's dangerous.
#10
(08-27-2021, 12:23 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 12:10 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 11:51 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 11:12 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 10:54 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote: Why would North Koreans be in South Korea?  Another nonsensical fallacy presented by Dr. Hooter.  

I didn't say it was a good plan, but there aren't any other options unless we surge some troops and that is a no for me. Anyway, these guys were trustworthy enough for your Tangerine Dream to sign on the dotted line last year, so why are you whining now? 

The terrorist attack makes the Taliban look terrible and weak if they truly were working with the US.  It's not logical to act as if they were guilty.  Why would they send a suicide bomber in...they have thousands of troops:  They could easily take the airport.
To repeat, peace is negotiated between enemies, not between allies. Chamberlain signed an agreement with Hitler and Hitler wasted no time breaking it. Chamberlain did the honorable thing for being so gullible and resigned as the British PM. The terms of peace treaties must be enforced. The Taliban broke the terms of the deal and then Biden's administration put them in charge of securing the airport perimeter and provided them with what will surely be a kill list.

Will Biden do the honorable thing and resign? Of course not. Only honorable men act out of a sense of honor.
I'm not sure if the Taliban have violated their agreement with Trump and Pompous.  The Afghan govt just gave up and left, so technically it's still peaceful.  The other part of the agreement was preventing a terrorist foothold.  We will see.  

Why would Biden resign?  Did Bush resign when we found out the WMDs was nothing but a lie?  How about Reagan when we learned about his arms deals with Iran?  Obama when ISIS filled the vacuum in Iraq?  Trump when he abandoned the Kurds?  

Your bar for how well this was going to go is a little high, Dr. Hooter.  My thoughts and prayers are out there for all of our citizens and military personnel who struggling through this, but anyone thinking a withdrawal from wartorn Afghanistan was going to be easy is just obtuse.
Well, Trump is not president, so whose responsibility was it to monitor the Taliban and make sure that they complied with the agreement that they signed? Biden failed to meet the deadline for withdrawal of May 1 that Trump set. Trump's responsibility for enforcing the agreement that was signed with the Taliban ended when Biden took the Oath of Office.

None of the examples that you cited approach the level of incompetence that Biden has displayed during the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Biden's operation allowed the Taliban to violate major parts of the agreement, allowed the Taliban to surround the airport used for evacuating Americans, surrendered $83 billion worth of military equipment, vehicles, and advanced weapons to a terrorist organization, and allowed the Taliban to dictate the adherence to the August 31 deadline to exit Afghanistan that Biden set. And you seriously ask the question, "Why would Biden resign?" You are a total clown. Look at your feet. Are your shoes bigger than size 20? If not, they ought to be.

Dear DisHonorable Doctor Hooter of Hypocrisy


On that we agree:  Trump is not president.   You are suggesting that if Trump were in office this would have gone better, or he would send us right back in.  That is the worst-case scenario unless you love your defense contracts and we know you do. 

What major parts were violated? 

Surrendered $83 billion in equipment...are you referring to the equipment left for the Afghan national army that gave up?   

Oh, the terrorist organization Donald Trump and Mike Pompous signed a treaty with? 

Biden seems to be sticking with 31st and with just 1k more Americans there looks like that will be completed by then.   It's time to get out.  One more day is too many.
If the agreement that Trump signed was a bad one, then Biden could have shredded it like he did so many of Trump's policies that were working. Your attempts to blame Trump for the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan are ridiculous but I think that you already know that. In just over three years, there will no longer be a need for you to provide distractions from the incompetence of this administration. Help is on the way, and you will be able to attack the competent administration that will be taking office in January 2025.
#11
(08-27-2021, 12:38 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 12:23 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 12:10 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 11:51 AM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 11:12 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: To repeat, peace is negotiated between enemies, not between allies. Chamberlain signed an agreement with Hitler and Hitler wasted no time breaking it. Chamberlain did the honorable thing for being so gullible and resigned as the British PM. The terms of peace treaties must be enforced. The Taliban broke the terms of the deal and then Biden's administration put them in charge of securing the airport perimeter and provided them with what will surely be a kill list.

Will Biden do the honorable thing and resign? Of course not. Only honorable men act out of a sense of honor.
I'm not sure if the Taliban have violated their agreement with Trump and Pompous.  The Afghan govt just gave up and left, so technically it's still peaceful.  The other part of the agreement was preventing a terrorist foothold.  We will see.  

Why would Biden resign?  Did Bush resign when we found out the WMDs was nothing but a lie?  How about Reagan when we learned about his arms deals with Iran?  Obama when ISIS filled the vacuum in Iraq?  Trump when he abandoned the Kurds?  

Your bar for how well this was going to go is a little high, Dr. Hooter.  My thoughts and prayers are out there for all of our citizens and military personnel who struggling through this, but anyone thinking a withdrawal from wartorn Afghanistan was going to be easy is just obtuse.
Well, Trump is not president, so whose responsibility was it to monitor the Taliban and make sure that they complied with the agreement that they signed? Biden failed to meet the deadline for withdrawal of May 1 that Trump set. Trump's responsibility for enforcing the agreement that was signed with the Taliban ended when Biden took the Oath of Office.

None of the examples that you cited approach the level of incompetence that Biden has displayed during the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Biden's operation allowed the Taliban to violate major parts of the agreement, allowed the Taliban to surround the airport used for evacuating Americans, surrendered $83 billion worth of military equipment, vehicles, and advanced weapons to a terrorist organization, and allowed the Taliban to dictate the adherence to the August 31 deadline to exit Afghanistan that Biden set. And you seriously ask the question, "Why would Biden resign?" You are a total clown. Look at your feet. Are your shoes bigger than size 20? If not, they ought to be.

Dear DisHonorable Doctor Hooter of Hypocrisy


On that we agree:  Trump is not president.   You are suggesting that if Trump were in office this would have gone better, or he would send us right back in.  That is the worst-case scenario unless you love your defense contracts and we know you do. 

What major parts were violated? 

Surrendered $83 billion in equipment...are you referring to the equipment left for the Afghan national army that gave up?   

Oh, the terrorist organization Donald Trump and Mike Pompous signed a treaty with? 

Biden seems to be sticking with 31st and with just 1k more Americans there looks like that will be completed by then.   It's time to get out.  One more day is too many.
This was going to be a mess no matter who was President when you pull out of a war zone these last days are going to be worse.
I think it was ISIS who did the bombing not the Taliban. Bush get's 3,000 Americans killed in NY lied about WMD'S did the democrats call on him to resign NO they got behind him and helped him not these Trumpsters they are all about Trump it's dangerous.
Dems did that to their detriment.  Several have lost elections because they lined up with the W administration's lies, but they thought America needed to be united.
#12
The length the media goes to defend this travesty is absurd. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!! He's is not president anymore and Biden could of "and did" whatever the hell he wants with trumps treaties, policies, etc. This is 100% Bidens fault and every drop of blood is on his hands. Every American should of been out of Afghanistan the day we handed power back to the local leaders. Its funny that Democrats are "Anti WAR" well your boy just started round 2 with Isis and the Taliban.
#13
(08-27-2021, 01:09 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote: The length the media goes to defend this travesty is absurd. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!! He's is not president anymore and Biden could of "and did" whatever the hell he wants with trumps treaties, policies, etc. This is 100% Bidens fault and every drop of blood is on his hands. Every American should of been out of Afghanistan the day we handed power back to the local leaders. Its funny that Democrats are "Anti WAR" well your boy just started round 2 with Isis and the Taliban.
And just how would you go about doing that enlighten us with your war plans
#14
(08-27-2021, 01:18 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:09 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote: The length the media goes to defend this travesty is absurd. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!! He's is not president anymore and Biden could of "and did" whatever the hell he wants with trumps treaties, policies, etc. This is 100% Bidens fault and every drop of blood is on his hands. Every American should of been out of Afghanistan the day we handed power back to the local leaders. Its funny that Democrats are "Anti WAR" well your boy just started round 2 with Isis and the Taliban.
And just how would you go about doing that enlighten us with your war plans
West Point needs to fire all their instructors.
#15
(08-27-2021, 01:20 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:18 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:09 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote: The length the media goes to defend this travesty is absurd. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!! He's is not president anymore and Biden could of "and did" whatever the hell he wants with trumps treaties, policies, etc. This is 100% Bidens fault and every drop of blood is on his hands. Every American should of been out of Afghanistan the day we handed power back to the local leaders. Its funny that Democrats are "Anti WAR" well your boy just started round 2 with Isis and the Taliban.
And just how would you go about doing that enlighten us with your war plans
West Point needs to fire all their instructors.
Biden never attended West Point, so you can't be serious about blaming their instructors for the current mess. Biden had to cheat his way through college. He would never made it through the first semester at West Point. They take cheating seriously there and would have given him the boot just like his crackhead son quickly got booted out of the Navy.
#16
(08-27-2021, 01:56 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:20 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:18 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:09 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote: The length the media goes to defend this travesty is absurd. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!! He's is not president anymore and Biden could of "and did" whatever the hell he wants with trumps treaties, policies, etc. This is 100% Bidens fault and every drop of blood is on his hands. Every American should of been out of Afghanistan the day we handed power back to the local leaders. Its funny that Democrats are "Anti WAR" well your boy just started round 2 with Isis and the Taliban.
And just how would you go about doing that enlighten us with your war plans
West Point needs to fire all their instructors.
Biden never attended West Point, so you can't be serious about blaming their instructors for the current mess. Biden had to cheat his way through college. He would never made it through the first semester at West Point. They take cheating seriously there and would have given him the boot just like his crackhead son quickly got booted out of the Navy.
Dr Quooter you are right he never went to west point but he is the only one of the last 4 president who had a son served over their. And neither did the last 3 presidents went to West Point.
#17
W23 is exactly right. But I would offer that Trump would have backed out of Afghanistan without loss of life or alienating our allies. Or giving up tech, and equipment, and on and on.
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#18
(08-27-2021, 01:56 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:20 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:18 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:09 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote: The length the media goes to defend this travesty is absurd. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!! He's is not president anymore and Biden could of "and did" whatever the hell he wants with trumps treaties, policies, etc. This is 100% Bidens fault and every drop of blood is on his hands. Every American should of been out of Afghanistan the day we handed power back to the local leaders. Its funny that Democrats are "Anti WAR" well your boy just started round 2 with Isis and the Taliban.
And just how would you go about doing that enlighten us with your war plans
West Point needs to fire all their instructors.
Biden never attended West Point, so you can't be serious about blaming their instructors for the current mess. Biden had to cheat his way through college. He would never made it through the first semester at West Point. They take cheating seriously there and would have given him the boot just like his crackhead son quickly got booted out of the Navy.
Oh no...West Point I'm certain has fine instructors, but it sounds like there are no military minds like the Conservatives on BGR.   Big Grin

(08-27-2021, 02:54 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: W23 is exactly right. But I would offer that Trump would have backed out of Afghanistan without loss of life or alienating our allies. Or giving up tech, and equipment, and on and on.
He would have had it wrapped up in 15 days.  Big Grin
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(08-27-2021, 02:54 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: W23 is exactly right. But I would offer that Trump would have backed out of Afghanistan without loss of life or alienating our allies. Or giving up tech, and equipment, and on and on.
Welcome back TRT just what was the Afghanistan military supposed to use to fight back with ?
Now after seen how everything unfolded YES we should of took it with us or destroyed it. I hope they didn't leave something China or Russia didn't know we have if they did we need to clean house top of the military.
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(08-27-2021, 05:50 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 02:54 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: W23 is exactly right. But I would offer that Trump would have backed out of Afghanistan without loss of life or alienating our allies. Or giving up tech, and equipment, and on and on.
Welcome back TRT just what was the Afghanistan military supposed to use to fight back with ?
Now after seen how everything unfolded YES we should of took it with us or destroyed it. I hope they didn't leave something China or Russia didn't know we have if they did we need to clean house top of the military.
Joe Biden is at the top of the military. I agree that we need to clean house at the top. Of course, we will first have to figure out whose orders Biden is executing.
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Any competent General from the 1800's, would have known how to withdraw a US occupation army from an occupied land. Idiot liberals always get it wrong and then it's indignant soap opera time again from the gender neutral wing of the US Military and the Pentagon. And as has been argued by all the girly-man libs on here.
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(08-27-2021, 06:53 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 05:50 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 02:54 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: W23 is exactly right. But I would offer that Trump would have backed out of Afghanistan without loss of life or alienating our allies. Or giving up tech, and equipment, and on and on.
Welcome back TRT just what was the Afghanistan military supposed to use to fight back with ?
Now after seen how everything unfolded YES we should of took it with us or destroyed it. I hope they didn't leave something China or Russia didn't know we have if they did we need to clean house top of the military.
Joe Biden is at the top of the military. I agree that we need to clean house at the top. Of course, we will first have to figure out whose orders Biden is executing.
we need to clean house every where. Let’s start with the succubus that is making billions.
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(08-27-2021, 01:18 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:09 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote: The length the media goes to defend this travesty is absurd. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!! He's is not president anymore and Biden could of "and did" whatever the hell he wants with trumps treaties, policies, etc. This is 100% Bidens fault and every drop of blood is on his hands. Every American should of been out of Afghanistan the day we handed power back to the local leaders. Its funny that Democrats are "Anti WAR" well your boy just started round 2 with Isis and the Taliban.
And just how would you go about doing that enlighten us with your war plans

IDK maybe simple shit like a plan to withdraw US citizens and personnel before handing the country back to terrorist. There is no excuse for the greatest military and intelligence agency on the planet to have screwed this withdraw up. It starts with Biden trying some 9/11 memorial bullshit that has now cost multiple people lives. HEY don't worry though, we told the taliban who not to kill. We good now.
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(08-29-2021, 12:50 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:18 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:09 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote: The length the media goes to defend this travesty is absurd. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!! He's is not president anymore and Biden could of "and did" whatever the hell he wants with trumps treaties, policies, etc. This is 100% Bidens fault and every drop of blood is on his hands. Every American should of been out of Afghanistan the day we handed power back to the local leaders. Its funny that Democrats are "Anti WAR" well your boy just started round 2 with Isis and the Taliban.
And just how would you go about doing that enlighten us with your war plans

IDK maybe simple shit like a plan to withdraw US citizens and personnel before handing the country back to terrorist. There is no excuse for the greatest military and intelligence agency on the planet to have screwed this withdraw up. It starts with Biden trying some 9/11 memorial bullshit that has now cost multiple people lives. HEY don't worry though, we told the taliban who not to kill. We good now.
IDK does that stand for I DON'T KNOW ?
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(08-29-2021, 12:58 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 12:50 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:18 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:09 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote: The length the media goes to defend this travesty is absurd. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!! He's is not president anymore and Biden could of "and did" whatever the hell he wants with trumps treaties, policies, etc. This is 100% Bidens fault and every drop of blood is on his hands. Every American should of been out of Afghanistan the day we handed power back to the local leaders. Its funny that Democrats are "Anti WAR" well your boy just started round 2 with Isis and the Taliban.
And just how would you go about doing that enlighten us with your war plans

IDK maybe simple shit like a plan to withdraw US citizens and personnel before handing the country back to terrorist. There is no excuse for the greatest military and intelligence agency on the planet to have screwed this withdraw up. It starts with Biden trying some 9/11 memorial bullshit that has now cost multiple people lives. HEY don't worry though, we told the taliban who not to kill. We good now.
IDK does that stand for I DON'T KNOW ?
The president gets paid big bucks for making big decisions. When he blows his responsibility and makes bad decisions, then he should expect to be criticized. Biden says that the failures in the evacuation process are his responsibility but then he always follows up by blaming Trump for his failures. Are you proud of Biden's performance and his failure to take responsibility for the failure? Failure, failure, failure...Biden's legacy.
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(08-29-2021, 01:03 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 12:58 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 12:50 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:18 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:09 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote: The length the media goes to defend this travesty is absurd. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!! He's is not president anymore and Biden could of "and did" whatever the hell he wants with trumps treaties, policies, etc. This is 100% Bidens fault and every drop of blood is on his hands. Every American should of been out of Afghanistan the day we handed power back to the local leaders. Its funny that Democrats are "Anti WAR" well your boy just started round 2 with Isis and the Taliban.
And just how would you go about doing that enlighten us with your war plans



IDK maybe simple shit like a plan to withdraw US citizens and personnel before handing the country back to terrorist. There is no excuse for the greatest military and intelligence agency on the planet to have screwed this withdraw up. It starts with Biden trying some 9/11 memorial bullshit that has now cost multiple people lives. HEY don't worry though, we told the taliban who not to kill. We good now.
IDK does that stand for I DON'T KNOW ?
The president gets paid big bucks for making big decisions. When he blows his responsibility and makes bad decisions, then he should expect to be criticized. Biden says that the failures in the evacuation process are his responsibility but then he always follows up by blaming Trump for his failures. Are you proud of Biden's performance and his failure to take responsibility for the failure? Failure, failure, failure...Biden's legacy.
Dr Quooter President Biden said he owns it what else would you want him to do ?
Now what about the 45 military people killed under Trump's watch did you criticized him for that ?
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(08-29-2021, 12:58 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 12:50 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:18 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:09 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote: The length the media goes to defend this travesty is absurd. TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!!!!! He's is not president anymore and Biden could of "and did" whatever the hell he wants with trumps treaties, policies, etc. This is 100% Bidens fault and every drop of blood is on his hands. Every American should of been out of Afghanistan the day we handed power back to the local leaders. Its funny that Democrats are "Anti WAR" well your boy just started round 2 with Isis and the Taliban.
And just how would you go about doing that enlighten us with your war plans

IDK maybe simple shit like a plan to withdraw US citizens and personnel before handing the country back to terrorist. There is no excuse for the greatest military and intelligence agency on the planet to have screwed this withdraw up. It starts with Biden trying some 9/11 memorial bullshit that has now cost multiple people lives. HEY don't worry though, we told the taliban who not to kill. We good now.
IDK does that stand for I DON'T KNOW ?

The IDK was sarcasm . Because anyone with a freaking brain could of done better then our current president . I don’t know how you defend such a blunder
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(08-29-2021, 01:11 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 01:03 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 12:58 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 12:50 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:18 PM)vector#1 Wrote: And just how would you go about doing that enlighten us with your war plans



IDK maybe simple shit like a plan to withdraw US citizens and personnel before handing the country back to terrorist. There is no excuse for the greatest military and intelligence agency on the planet to have screwed this withdraw up. It starts with Biden trying some 9/11 memorial bullshit that has now cost multiple people lives. HEY don't worry though, we told the taliban who not to kill. We good now.
IDK does that stand for I DON'T KNOW ?
The president gets paid big bucks for making big decisions. When he blows his responsibility and makes bad decisions, then he should expect to be criticized. Biden says that the failures in the evacuation process are his responsibility but then he always follows up by blaming Trump for his failures. Are you proud of Biden's performance and his failure to take responsibility for the failure? Failure, failure, failure...Biden's legacy.
Dr Quooter President Biden said he owns it what else would you want him to do ?
Now what about the 45 military people killed under Trump's watch did you criticized him for that ?
Did he abandon them?
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(08-29-2021, 01:11 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 01:03 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 12:58 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 12:50 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote:
(08-27-2021, 01:18 PM)vector#1 Wrote: And just how would you go about doing that enlighten us with your war plans



IDK maybe simple shit like a plan to withdraw US citizens and personnel before handing the country back to terrorist. There is no excuse for the greatest military and intelligence agency on the planet to have screwed this withdraw up. It starts with Biden trying some 9/11 memorial bullshit that has now cost multiple people lives. HEY don't worry though, we told the taliban who not to kill. We good now.
IDK does that stand for I DON'T KNOW ?
The president gets paid big bucks for making big decisions. When he blows his responsibility and makes bad decisions, then he should expect to be criticized. Biden says that the failures in the evacuation process are his responsibility but then he always follows up by blaming Trump for his failures. Are you proud of Biden's performance and his failure to take responsibility for the failure? Failure, failure, failure...Biden's legacy.
Dr Quooter President Biden said he owns it what else would you want him to do ?
Now what about the 45 military people killed under Trump's watch did you criticized him for that ?
Wars are dangerous. People die even under great leaders. Biden's incompetence directly resulted in the deaths of 13 American military service members and scores of Afghans. When one says that they accept responsibility for a colossal screw-up in which people died but then proceed to blame everybody else for the deaths, one has not actually accepted any responsibility.
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(08-30-2021, 12:27 AM)Wildcatk23 Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 01:11 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 01:03 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 12:58 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 12:50 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote: IDK maybe simple shit like a plan to withdraw US citizens and personnel before handing the country back to terrorist. There is no excuse for the greatest military and intelligence agency on the planet to have screwed this withdraw up. It starts with Biden trying some 9/11 memorial bullshit that has now cost multiple people lives. HEY don't worry though, we told the taliban who not to kill. We good now.
IDK does that stand for I DON'T KNOW ?
The president gets paid big bucks for making big decisions. When he blows his responsibility and makes bad decisions, then he should expect to be criticized. Biden says that the failures in the evacuation process are his responsibility but then he always follows up by blaming Trump for his failures. Are you proud of Biden's performance and his failure to take responsibility for the failure? Failure, failure, failure...Biden's legacy.
Dr Quooter President Biden said he owns it what else would you want him to do ?
Now what about the 45 military people killed under Trump's watch did you criticized him for that ?
Did he abandon them?
Don't think he abandon them don't know where you are going here ? He took responsibility for it what else do you think he should do ? Now as far as Trump don't know all the details but don't think he abandon any of them war is nasty.

(08-30-2021, 12:58 AM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 01:11 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 01:03 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 12:58 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(08-29-2021, 12:50 PM)Wildcatk23 Wrote: IDK maybe simple shit like a plan to withdraw US citizens and personnel before handing the country back to terrorist. There is no excuse for the greatest military and intelligence agency on the planet to have screwed this withdraw up. It starts with Biden trying some 9/11 memorial bullshit that has now cost multiple people lives. HEY don't worry though, we told the taliban who not to kill. We good now.
IDK does that stand for I DON'T KNOW ?
The president gets paid big bucks for making big decisions. When he blows his responsibility and makes bad decisions, then he should expect to be criticized. Biden says that the failures in the evacuation process are his responsibility but then he always follows up by blaming Trump for his failures. Are you proud of Biden's performance and his failure to take responsibility for the failure? Failure, failure, failure...Biden's legacy.
Dr Quooter President Biden said he owns it what else would you want him to do ?
Now what about the 45 military people killed under Trump's watch did you criticized him for that ?
Wars are dangerous. People die even under great leaders. Biden's incompetence directly resulted in the deaths of 13 American military service members and scores of Afghans. When one says that they accept responsibility for a colossal screw-up in which people died but then proceed to blame everybody else for the deaths, one has not actually accepted any responsibility.
Dr Quooter when did President Biden blame anyone else ? I don't think he could do anything that you would agree with anything.

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