I think once the AP Poll (which is the one that counts) comes out we will be ranked.
ESPN/USA Today Poll
1. Duke (30) 18-1 774
2. Connecticut (1) 18-1 733
3. Pittsburgh 18-1 706
4. Wake Forest 16-1 666
5. Oklahoma 19-1 663
6. North Carolina 17-2 636
7. Louisville 15-3 547
8. Marquette 17-2 538
9. Michigan State 16-3 475
10. Xavier 17-2 458
11. Clemson 17-2 425
12. Texas 14-4 402
13. Butler 18-1 384
14. Arizona State 16-3 378
15. Syracuse 17-4 321
16. UCLA 15-4 311
17. Purdue 15-4 267
18. Saint Mary's 18-1 212
19. Memphis 16-3 193
20. Illinois 17-3 181
21. Villanova 15-4 113
22. Notre Dame 12-6 97
23. Georgetown 12-6 92
24. Minnesota 17-3 84
25. Gonzaga 14-4 60
GoCats10 Wrote:uk left out of both polls what more do they have to prove to get into the top 25
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/polls
Beats me.
Maybe a thumping of Ole Miss on national television tomorrow night will convince voters.
Associated Press Top 25
1 Wake Forest
2 Duke
3 Connecticut
4 Pittsburgh
5 North Carolina
6 Oklahoma
7 Michigan State
8 Syracuse
9 Louisville
10 Clemson
11 Marquette
12 Georgetown
13 UCLA
14 Texas
15 Xavier
16 Butler
17 Arizona State
18 Purdue
19 Notre Dame
20 Villanova
21 Minnesota
22 Memphis
23 Gonzaga
24 Florida
25 Illinois
GoCats10 Wrote:uk left out of both polls what more do they have to prove to get into the top 25
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/polls
Beat somebody good.
Although they havent, there playing as good as a top 25 team, and should be ranked soon.
Aslan Wrote:Beat somebody good.
Although they havent, there playing as good as a top 25 team, and should be ranked soon.
So I guess beating UT is not a good win. Also WVU who beat G-Town who is ranked is also not a good win.
I never say anything bad about the polls, because they ultimately mean nothing, but this is ridiculous.
Notre Dame and Georgetown are both 12-6, and neither team won this week.
I don't care how strong people think the BigLEast is, there is no justification in rankings teams that have lost 3 straight, and 5 out of their last 7 (GTown)
I'm happy for Tubby at Minnesota, but there is no way they should be ranked either. They've lost 2 of their last 3, and squeaked by Indiana who is one of the worst teams in basketball.
And I'm so tired of hearing Gonzaga, that it makes me sick. They've beaten Tennessee twice, but they've also lost to the likes of Portland State. They have just as many losses as UK, and play in a cup cake conference.
My biggest gripes are numbers 22-25. Other teams can make an argument, but I don't know what Kentucky has to do.
kentucky should have been put where UF is in the polls... UK is in first place in the SEC and won 11 of last 12
alfus21 Wrote:I never say anything bad about the polls, because they ultimately mean nothing, but this is ridiculous.
Notre Dame and Georgetown are both 12-6, and neither team won this week.
I don't care how strong people think the BigLEast is, there is no justification in rankings teams that have lost 3 straight, and 5 out of their last 7 (GTown)
I'm happy for Tubby at Minnesota, but there is no way they should be ranked either. They've lost 2 of their last 3, and squeaked by Indiana who is one of the worst teams in basketball.
And I'm so tired of hearing Gonzaga, that it makes me sick. They've beaten Tennessee twice, but they've also lost to the likes of Portland State. They have just as many losses as UK, and play in a cup cake conference.
My biggest gripes are numbers 22-25. Other teams can make an argument, but I don't know what Kentucky has to do.
Completely agree!
It will be hard for anyone to argue with that.
GoCats10 Wrote:kentucky should have been put where UF is in the polls... UK is in first place in the SEC and won 11 of last 12
Another good point, the fact that Florida is somehow still getting more votes than Kentucky after losing to South Carolina this week is absurd.
alfus21 Wrote:I never say anything bad about the polls, because they ultimately mean nothing, but this is ridiculous.
Notre Dame and Georgetown are both 12-6, and neither team won this week.
I don't care how strong people think the BigLEast is, there is no justification in rankings teams that have lost 3 straight, and 5 out of their last 7 (GTown)
I'm happy for Tubby at Minnesota, but there is no way they should be ranked either. They've lost 2 of their last 3, and squeaked by Indiana who is one of the worst teams in basketball.
And I'm so tired of hearing Gonzaga, that it makes me sick. They've beaten Tennessee twice, but they've also lost to the likes of Portland State. They have just as many losses as UK, and play in a cup cake conference.
My biggest gripes are numbers 22-25. Other teams can make an argument, but I don't know what Kentucky has to do.
I agree with all of this 150%!
Kentucky is ranked in the AP Poll according to EPSN.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings
AP Top 25
1. Duke (62) 18-1 1,789
2. Connecticut (6) 18-1 1,694
3. Pittsburgh (3) 18-1 1,647
4. Oklahoma (1) 19-1 1,539
5. North Carolina 17-2 1,529
6. Wake Forest 16-1 1,509
7. Louisville 15-3 1,351
8. Marquette 17-2 1,209
9. Michigan State 16-3 1,136
10. Xavier 17-2 1,084
11. Texas 14-4 1,017
12. Clemson 17-2 929
13. Butler 18-1 916
14. Arizona State 16-3 834
15. Syracuse 17-4 808
16. Purdue 15-4 724
17. UCLA 15-4 544
18. Memphis 16-3 530
19. Illinois 17-3 401
20. Gonzaga 14-4 381
21. Villanova 15-4 276
22. Saint Mary's 18-1 247
23. Washington 15-4 218
24.
Kentucky 16-4 217
25. Georgetown 12-6 189
Others Receiving Votes
Notre Dame 154, Minnesota 138, Kansas 84, Florida 65, Missouri 52, Virginia Tech 37, Baylor 34, West Virginia 32, Davidson 27, Utah State 23, Dayton 14, California 13, UNLV 4, Florida State 3, Ohio State 1, Virginia Commonwealth 1.
Dropped From Rankings
Notre Dame 19, Minnesota 21, Florida 24
alfus21 Wrote:Kentucky is ranked in the AP Poll according to EPSN.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings
AP Top 25
1. Duke (62) 18-1 1,789
2. Connecticut (6) 18-1 1,694
3. Pittsburgh (3) 18-1 1,647
4. Oklahoma (1) 19-1 1,539
5. North Carolina 17-2 1,529
6. Wake Forest 16-1 1,509
7. Louisville 15-3 1,351
8. Marquette 17-2 1,209
9. Michigan State 16-3 1,136
10. Xavier 17-2 1,084
11. Texas 14-4 1,017
12. Clemson 17-2 929
13. Butler 18-1 916
14. Arizona State 16-3 834
15. Syracuse 17-4 808
16. Purdue 15-4 724
17. UCLA 15-4 544
18. Memphis 16-3 530
19. Illinois 17-3 401
20. Gonzaga 14-4 381
21. Villanova 15-4 276
22. Saint Mary's 18-1 247
23. Washington 15-4 218
24. Kentucky 16-4 217
25. Georgetown 12-6 189
Others Receiving Votes
Notre Dame 154, Minnesota 138, Kansas 84, Florida 65, Missouri 52, Virginia Tech 37, Baylor 34, West Virginia 32, Davidson 27, Utah State 23, Dayton 14, California 13, UNLV 4, Florida State 3, Ohio State 1, Virginia Commonwealth 1.
Dropped From Rankings
Notre Dame 19, Minnesota 21, Florida 24
Hmm. The CBS AP Poll did not have them in there. It's better than nothing, I'll take it!
alfus21 Wrote:Kentucky is ranked in the AP Poll according to EPSN.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings
AP Top 25
1. Duke (62) 18-1 1,789
2. Connecticut (6) 18-1 1,694
3. Pittsburgh (3) 18-1 1,647
4. Oklahoma (1) 19-1 1,539
5. North Carolina 17-2 1,529
6. Wake Forest 16-1 1,509
7. Louisville 15-3 1,351
8. Marquette 17-2 1,209
9. Michigan State 16-3 1,136
10. Xavier 17-2 1,084
11. Texas 14-4 1,017
12. Clemson 17-2 929
13. Butler 18-1 916
14. Arizona State 16-3 834
15. Syracuse 17-4 808
16. Purdue 15-4 724
17. UCLA 15-4 544
18. Memphis 16-3 530
19. Illinois 17-3 401
20. Gonzaga 14-4 381
21. Villanova 15-4 276
22. Saint Mary's 18-1 247
23. Washington 15-4 218
24. Kentucky 16-4 217
25. Georgetown 12-6 189
Others Receiving Votes
Notre Dame 154, Minnesota 138, Kansas 84, Florida 65, Missouri 52, Virginia Tech 37, Baylor 34, West Virginia 32, Davidson 27, Utah State 23, Dayton 14, California 13, UNLV 4, Florida State 3, Ohio State 1, Virginia Commonwealth 1.
Dropped From Rankings
Notre Dame 19, Minnesota 21, Florida 24
nice post i always check cbs... i would like to know which one if correct because i dont think they would have two ap polls
alfus21 Wrote:I never say anything bad about the polls, because they ultimately mean nothing, but this is ridiculous.
Notre Dame and Georgetown are both 12-6, and neither team won this week.
I don't care how strong people think the BigLEast is, there is no justification in rankings teams that have lost 3 straight, and 5 out of their last 7 (GTown)
I'm happy for Tubby at Minnesota, but there is no way they should be ranked either. They've lost 2 of their last 3, and squeaked by Indiana who is one of the worst teams in basketball.
And I'm so tired of hearing Gonzaga, that it makes me sick. They've beaten Tennessee twice, but they've also lost to the likes of Portland State. They have just as many losses as UK, and play in a cup cake conference.
My biggest gripes are numbers 22-25. Other teams can make an argument, but I don't know what Kentucky has to do.
I agree alfus. The big east is strong, but not as strong as the hype surrounding the conference. Keeping the big east teams ranked with 6 losses at this point in the season, is ridiculous. In my opinion, this is all the result of somekind of promotional agenda. What better way to get large numbers of people to tune in every week, when you can market a top 25 matchup between two teams in the most powerful conference ever assemble. Thank god we have the march madness tournament to decide things on the floor. Here is a hint, let's wait and see how well the big east performs overall as a conference in the big dance, before we go anointing them the greatest conference ever. Respect and greatness should be earned on the floor, and some of these big east teams are, however, the others seem nothing more than hype. Example, Georgetown, Notre Dame. If the big east dominates March Madness, then maybe some of these rankings could be justified. I just don't seeing them dominating. From what I have seen, I think the ACC will have the best showing overall, and win the National Title.
UL is supposedly(according to rankings) one of the big easts best teams, and I don't disagree with their ranking. Then you got Kentucky that is 1-1 , or 500 vs the big east, only losing to UL on a last second shot on their home floor, and beating WV on a neutral floor. Whereas, Georgetown and Notre Dame are 3-4 each, and they will be lucky to even finish 500 in conference. WVU has a better conference record than them, and they are unranked. Is the big east really that much better than everyone else, or is it all hype?
torQQue Wrote:I agree alfus. The big east is strong, but not as strong as the hype surrounding the conference. Keeping the big east teams ranked with 6 losses at this point in the season, is ridiculous. In my opinion, this is all the result of somekind of promotional agenda. What better way to get large numbers of people to tune in every week, when you can market a top 25 matchup between two teams in the most powerful conference ever assemble. Thank god we have the march madness tournament to decide things ion the floor. Here is a hint, let's wait and see how well the big east performs overall as a conference in the big dance, before we go anointing them the greatest conference ever. Respect and greatness should be earned on the floor, and some of these big east teams are, however, the others seem nothing more than hype. Example, Georgetown, Notre Dame. If the big east dominates March Madness, then maybe some of these rankings could be justified. I just don't seeing them dominating. I think the ACC will have the best showing overall, and win the National Title.
UL is supposedly(according to rankings) one of the big easts best teams, and I don't disagree with their ranking. Then you got Kentucky that is 1-1 , or 500 vs the big east, only losing to UL on a last second shot on their home floor, and beating WV on a neutral floor. Whereas, Georgetown and Notre Dame are 3-4 each, and they will be lucky to even finish 500 in conference. WVU has a better conference record than them, and they are unranked. Is the big east really that much better than everyone else, or is it all hype?
This is all hype to build up a tough conference. ESPN talks about the Big East getting 10 teams in. I don't see how this is possible. They might get 8, but 10 is a little outrageous.
ESPN is in love with the Big East Conference and that is why they get all of the attention that they do. I for one, am sick of it.
torQQue Wrote:I agree alfus. The big east is strong, but not as strong as the hype surrounding the conference. Keeping the big east teams ranked with 6 losses at this point in the season, is ridiculous. In my opinion, this is all the result of somekind of promotional agenda. What better way to get large numbers of people to tune in every week, when you can market a top 25 matchup between two teams in the most powerful conference ever assemble. Thank god we have the march madness tournament to decide things on the floor. Here is a hint, let's wait and see how well the big east performs overall as a conference in the big dance, before we go anointing them the greatest conference ever. Respect and greatness should be earned on the floor, and some of these big east teams are, however, the others seem nothing more than hype. Example, Georgetown, Notre Dame. If the big east dominates March Madness, then maybe some of these rankings could be justified. I just don't seeing them dominate. I think the ACC will have the best showing overall, and win the National Title.
UL is supposedly(according to rankings) one of the big easts best teams, and I dont disagree with their ranking. Then you got Kentucky that is 1-1 , or 500 vs the big east, only losing to UL on a last second shot on their home floor, and beating WV on a neutral floor. Whereas, Georgetown and Notre Dame are 3-4 each, and they will be lucky to even finish 500 in conference. WVU has a better conference record than them, and they are unranked. Is the big east really that much better than everyone else, or is it all hype?
You have an excellent point QQ, and I very much agree.
The Big East has the most powerful conference of the BCS conferences, but IMO the teams are not nearly as good as ESPN/AP makes them out to be.
alfus21 Wrote:Kentucky is ranked in the AP Poll according to EPSN.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/rankings
AP Top 25
1. Duke (62) 18-1 1,789
2. Connecticut (6) 18-1 1,694
3. Pittsburgh (3) 18-1 1,647
4. Oklahoma (1) 19-1 1,539
5. North Carolina 17-2 1,529
6. Wake Forest 16-1 1,509
7. Louisville 15-3 1,351
8. Marquette 17-2 1,209
9. Michigan State 16-3 1,136
10. Xavier 17-2 1,084
11. Texas 14-4 1,017
12. Clemson 17-2 929
13. Butler 18-1 916
14. Arizona State 16-3 834
15. Syracuse 17-4 808
16. Purdue 15-4 724
17. UCLA 15-4 544
18. Memphis 16-3 530
19. Illinois 17-3 401
20. Gonzaga 14-4 381
21. Villanova 15-4 276
22. Saint Mary's 18-1 247
23. Washington 15-4 218
24. Kentucky 16-4 217
25. Georgetown 12-6 189
Others Receiving Votes
Notre Dame 154, Minnesota 138, Kansas 84, Florida 65, Missouri 52, Virginia Tech 37, Baylor 34, West Virginia 32, Davidson 27, Utah State 23, Dayton 14, California 13, UNLV 4, Florida State 3, Ohio State 1, Virginia Commonwealth 1.
Dropped From Rankings
Notre Dame 19, Minnesota 21, Florida 24
This looks right, but theres a couple of teams that shouldn't even be in this.
Whens the last time UK was ranked in the ESPN poll? Preseason last year?
Aslan Wrote:Whens the last time UK was ranked in the ESPN poll? Preseason last year?
I'm not sure if that was the last time they were ranked or not, but that sounds pretty accurate to me. If that was the case, then they didn't deserve to be ranked at that time. The voters should have known Kentucky would struggle with new coaches and new philosophies coming in. As with many coaching changes, there will be transfers, some of the previous coached players often struggle to adjust to the new coaching philosophies and culture. I knew there would be many bumps last year and even a few this year. But the road is getting smoother for the Cats.
The ranking the cats possess now was earned, it wasn't given.
How in the world is St. Mary's ranked so high?
Benchwarmer Wrote:How in the world is St. Mary's ranked so high?
Good record. They will probably be a high seed in the NCAA Tournament and get knocked out the first round.
I don't agree with their ranking either.
On Yahoo, it has Kentucky ranked 24 in the AP Poll and to be honest, I see no way how UK is not ranked, I mean they should at least be 20. Yahoo user's has Kentucky at 19
outdoorsman43 Wrote:Good record. They will probably be a high seed in the NCAA Tournament and get knocked out the first round.
I don't agree with their ranking either.
St. Mary's key wins against Pacific by 9, Kent St. by 6, and a shoot out with CSU Bakersfield 80-74 should put them in the top 25.
The coaches poll is biased in my opinion because most coaches don't like the SEC coaches from what I've been hearing.
In bracketology, Joe Lunardi has Kentucky as a No. 4 seed in the NCAA tourney.. hope they can stay around there.. So they can make a deeper run in the bracket..
Hmm, this couldn't be because a lot of the other coaches hate Billy Clyde, could it? I mean, it's not like the national coaches' association has publicly reprimanded him anytime in the last couple years...
Oh, wait.
