(09-21-2021, 03:03 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2021, 11:45 AM)vector#1 Wrote: [ -> ]Here we go again Green Eggs and Ham
Maddow Blog | The lie at the heart of Ted Cruz's dangerous debt-ceiling strategy (msn.com)
After the republicans added $7.8 trillion to the debt now they don't want to pay for it after raising it the last 4 years with no complaints
Wasn't it Trump that just wanted us to file bankruptcy the last time this came up?
Trump also said he was going to pay the debt off in 8 years if he could pull that one out of his year I would pay for a billboard saying he was the second coming
More than evidence Republicans have zero interest in improving the United States.
They helped make these bills and don’t want to pay for them. The new spending hasn’t even passed.
^^^Total lies that nobody believes
(09-21-2021, 07:45 PM)The Outsider Wrote: [ -> ]Congress could cost Americans $15 trillion and 6 million jobs if it doesn't raise the debt ceiling, Moody's says.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...uxbndlbing
If the limit isn't lifted by then, the country faces "cataclysmic" economic fallout, economists led by Mark Zandi said. The team's simulations show a default on US debt powering a downturn similar to that seen during the Great Recession. Gross domestic product would slide by nearly 4%. The country would lose almost 6 million jobs. The unemployment rate would surge to 9% from 5.2%.
[b]They need to come to a compromise that both sides can live with, although partisan politics will likely cause it to fail.
[/b]
If it was me I would call Mitch's bluff republicans are as much responsible for the debt as the democrats maybe more.
Reagan' Bush Jr. and Trump added a lot to the debt and Mitch was there every year
(09-21-2021, 07:58 PM)vector#1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2021, 07:45 PM)The Outsider Wrote: [ -> ]Congress could cost Americans $15 trillion and 6 million jobs if it doesn't raise the debt ceiling, Moody's says.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...uxbndlbing
If the limit isn't lifted by then, the country faces "cataclysmic" economic fallout, economists led by Mark Zandi said. The team's simulations show a default on US debt powering a downturn similar to that seen during the Great Recession. Gross domestic product would slide by nearly 4%. The country would lose almost 6 million jobs. The unemployment rate would surge to 9% from 5.2%.
[b]They need to come to a compromise that both sides can live with, although partisan politics will likely cause it to fail.
[/b]
If it was me I would call Mitch's bluff republicans are as much responsible for the debt as the democrats maybe more.
Reagan' Bush Jr. and Trump added a lot to the debt and Mitch was there every year
Trump added almost 8 trillion to the national debt over his 4 years., mostly due to tax cuts for the wealthy and due to the lower corporate tax rate.
(09-21-2021, 09:47 PM)The Outsider Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2021, 07:58 PM)vector#1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2021, 07:45 PM)The Outsider Wrote: [ -> ]Congress could cost Americans $15 trillion and 6 million jobs if it doesn't raise the debt ceiling, Moody's says.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/...uxbndlbing
If the limit isn't lifted by then, the country faces "cataclysmic" economic fallout, economists led by Mark Zandi said. The team's simulations show a default on US debt powering a downturn similar to that seen during the Great Recession. Gross domestic product would slide by nearly 4%. The country would lose almost 6 million jobs. The unemployment rate would surge to 9% from 5.2%.
[b]They need to come to a compromise that both sides can live with, although partisan politics will likely cause it to fail.
[/b]
If it was me I would call Mitch's bluff republicans are as much responsible for the debt as the democrats maybe more.
Reagan' Bush Jr. and Trump added a lot to the debt and Mitch was there every year
Trump added almost 8 trillion to the national debt over his 4 years., mostly due to tax cuts for the wealthy and due to the lower corporate tax rate.
Party of personal responsibility attempting to run out on their bills.
(09-21-2021, 05:23 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]More than evidence Republicans have zero interest in improving the United States.
They helped make these bills and don’t want to pay for them. The new spending hasn’t even passed.
Here's a little news flash for you on basic economics.
Borrowing money is not paying bills, it is making more bills. So if one cannot pay his bills in the first place, how is increasing spending 6 Trillion dollars and borrowing all the money for that, in any way responsible? But hey, party hearty while you can, right? That's the liberal way.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, 'to purchase' a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ---Ben Franklin
Don't come on here saying borrowing good money after bad is to "improve the United States." That's a Liberal/Keynesian lie that history has shown to shipwreck economy after economy over time. In the 20th Century and first quarter of the 21st, America has led world economics. But to a liberal's mind that isn't good enough. Not everybody can live in a glorious house and drive a luxury car. They certainly didn't during our heyday and as good sense dictates, never will. That stuff takes money and most people can't come up with enough to do so. And not that amassing material things could ever bring about a satisfied mind anyway, [RE Johnnie Cash "Satisfied Mind"]
But giving people stuff has only created more unrest. Or have the riots beginning in the Obama era escaped your notice?
And dare I mention the fact that the US economy under Trump was soaring? Goods, beef, energy and school bus drivers were plentiful. Now all that soars are the COVID infection rate and the exponential numbers of illegal aliens flooding in. The Lord's coming object lesson has this land, has us, increasingly painted into a corner; but in your blinded eyes happy days are here again.
(09-22-2021, 04:11 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2021, 05:23 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]More than evidence Republicans have zero interest in improving the United States.
They helped make these bills and don’t want to pay for them. The new spending hasn’t even passed.
Here's a little news flash for you on basic economics. Borrowing money is not paying bills, it is making more bills. So if one cannot pay his bills in the first place, how is increasing spending 6 Trillion dollars and borrowing all the money for that, in any way responsible? But hey, party hearty while you can, right? That's the liberal way. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, 'to purchase' a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ---Ben Franklin
Don't come on here saying borrowing good money after bad is to "improve the United States." That's a Liberal/Keynesian lie that history has shown to shipwreck economy after economy over time. In the 20th Century and first quarter of the 21st, America has led world economics. But to a liberal's mind that isn't good enough. Not everybody can live in a glorious house and drive a luxury car. They certainly didn't during our heyday and as good sense dictates, never will. That stuff takes money and most people can't come up with enough to do so. And not that amassing material things could ever bring about a satisfied mind anyway, [RE Johnnie Cash "Satisfied Mind"]
But giving people stuff has only created more unrest. Or have the riots beginning in the Obama era escaped your notice?
And dare I mention the fact that the US economy under Trump was soaring? Goods, beef, energy and school bus drivers were plentiful. Now all that soars are the COVID infection rate and the exponential numbers of illegal aliens flooding in. The Lord's coming object lesson has this land, has us, increasingly painted into a corner; but in your blinded eyes happy days are here again.
Trump made these bills.
except 2020. No bus drivers that year. You forget who was President then,TRT?
Hoot used that Franklin quote incorrectly before. Maybe you need to look up what it means.
not what you think.
Covid infection rate of the unvaccinated which tends to be Republican, so you need to punch yourselves in the face on that.
(09-22-2021, 05:15 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 04:11 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2021, 05:23 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]More than evidence Republicans have zero interest in improving the United States.
They helped make these bills and don’t want to pay for them. The new spending hasn’t even passed.
Here's a little news flash for you on basic economics. Borrowing money is not paying bills, it is making more bills. So if one cannot pay his bills in the first place, how is increasing spending 6 Trillion dollars and borrowing all the money for that, in any way responsible? But hey, party hearty while you can, right? That's the liberal way. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, 'to purchase' a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ---Ben Franklin
Don't come on here saying borrowing good money after bad is to "improve the United States." That's a Liberal/Keynesian lie that history has shown to shipwreck economy after economy over time. In the 20th Century and first quarter of the 21st, America has led world economics. But to a liberal's mind that isn't good enough. Not everybody can live in a glorious house and drive a luxury car. They certainly didn't during our heyday and as good sense dictates, never will. That stuff takes money and most people can't come up with enough to do so. And not that amassing material things could ever bring about a satisfied mind anyway, [RE Johnnie Cash "Satisfied Mind"]
But giving people stuff has only created more unrest. Or have the riots beginning in the Obama era escaped your notice?
And dare I mention the fact that the US economy under Trump was soaring? Goods, beef, energy and school bus drivers were plentiful. Now all that soars are the COVID infection rate and the exponential numbers of illegal aliens flooding in. The Lord's coming object lesson has this land, has us, increasingly painted into a corner; but in your blinded eyes happy days are here again.
Trump made these bills.
except 2020. No bus drivers that year. You forget who was President then,TRT?
Hoot used that Franklin quote incorrectly before. Maybe you need to look up what it means. not what you think.
Covid infection rate of the unvaccinated which tends to be Republican, so you need to punch yourselves in the face on that.
I certainly did not forget your fact twisting revisions I can tell you that. "Fifteen days to slow the spread," I remember that. But thanks to the Dems who got to the party 6 months late, the time frame morphed into 15 months and growing at least up through next election season. But now 8 months after Trump's promise of a viable vaccine having been delivered, which BTW morphed immediately into lo these 3 vaccines; thanks to Democrat governors who went clinical fanning CV-19 fears, the school bus drivers who were laid off went to the UPS and the like, and are not about to give up their new jobs.
I have the application for the quote exactly right. Just a different threat. I didn't expect you to understand, it was used more for the free thinkers. Without out fail, you lie every time you post. The Dem base is toast without black voters, 87% of which all identify as Democrat. THE HILL -- "Among those vaccinated whose race is known, 58 percent are white and 10 percent are Black."
https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/5...vaccinated
Blacks might not trust the vaccine because Democrats lied their heads off about it back in 2020. And then tried and failed to take credit for the vaccine even while uncle Joe et-al were insisting on getting it for themselves.
TRT, you may need to take an economics or two. Raising the debt ceiling is to pay for debt already incurred the past few years, including this year, and cannot be used for new spending. That being said, Clinton was the last President to balance the Federal budget. The previous 3, Trump, Obama and Bush had the largest deficits in US history.
(09-22-2021, 05:54 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 05:15 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 04:11 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2021, 05:23 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]More than evidence Republicans have zero interest in improving the United States.
They helped make these bills and don’t want to pay for them. The new spending hasn’t even passed.
Here's a little news flash for you on basic economics. Borrowing money is not paying bills, it is making more bills. So if one cannot pay his bills in the first place, how is increasing spending 6 Trillion dollars and borrowing all the money for that, in any way responsible? But hey, party hearty while you can, right? That's the liberal way. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, 'to purchase' a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ---Ben Franklin
Don't come on here saying borrowing good money after bad is to "improve the United States." That's a Liberal/Keynesian lie that history has shown to shipwreck economy after economy over time. In the 20th Century and first quarter of the 21st, America has led world economics. But to a liberal's mind that isn't good enough. Not everybody can live in a glorious house and drive a luxury car. They certainly didn't during our heyday and as good sense dictates, never will. That stuff takes money and most people can't come up with enough to do so. And not that amassing material things could ever bring about a satisfied mind anyway, [RE Johnnie Cash "Satisfied Mind"]
But giving people stuff has only created more unrest. Or have the riots beginning in the Obama era escaped your notice?
And dare I mention the fact that the US economy under Trump was soaring? Goods, beef, energy and school bus drivers were plentiful. Now all that soars are the COVID infection rate and the exponential numbers of illegal aliens flooding in. The Lord's coming object lesson has this land, has us, increasingly painted into a corner; but in your blinded eyes happy days are here again.
Trump made these bills.
except 2020. No bus drivers that year. You forget who was President then,TRT?
Hoot used that Franklin quote incorrectly before. Maybe you need to look up what it means. not what you think.
Covid infection rate of the unvaccinated which tends to be Republican, so you need to punch yourselves in the face on that.
I certainly did not forget your fact twisting revisions I can tell you that. "Fifteen days to slow the spread," I remember that. But thanks to the Dems who got to the party 6 months late, the time frame morphed into 15 months and growing at least up through next election season. But now 8 months after Trump's promise of a viable vaccine having been delivered, which BTW morphed immediately into lo these 3 vaccines; thanks to Democrat governors who went clinical fanning CV-19 fears, the school bus drivers who were laid off went to the UPS and the like, and are not about to give up their new jobs.
I have the application for the quote exactly right. Just a different threat. I didn't expect you to understand, it was used more for the free thinkers. Without out fail, you lie every time you post. The Dem base is toast without black voters, 87% of which all identify as Democrat. THE HILL -- "Among those vaccinated whose race is known, 58 percent are white and 10 percent are Black." https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/5...vaccinated
Blacks might not trust the vaccine because Democrats lied their heads off about it back in 2020. And then tried and failed to take credit for the vaccine even while uncle Joe et-al were insisting on getting it for themselves.
TRT 55% of the population has been fully vaccinated so we have 45% not vaccinated. Blacks make up about 13.4% of the population so if every black person refuses to take the vaccine then that would leave around 31.6% unvaccinated. So to make it easier for you to understand it's not just the black's there's a whole lot of other people who are causing the problem. All the democrats said about the vaccine is they don't trust Trump hell I wouldn't either. President Biden did take his shot on TV where the people could watch him take it. What did Trump do sneaked around and took the shot without letting his people know anything about it about a month later. And by the way TRT we had a working vaccine before the first case was announced in this country all Trump did was spend money to help speed it up just like every president would. If people believed what you have said you would think Trump pulled the vaccine out of his rear end.
(09-22-2021, 05:54 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 05:15 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 04:11 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2021, 05:23 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]More than evidence Republicans have zero interest in improving the United States.
They helped make these bills and don’t want to pay for them. The new spending hasn’t even passed.
Here's a little news flash for you on basic economics. Borrowing money is not paying bills, it is making more bills. So if one cannot pay his bills in the first place, how is increasing spending 6 Trillion dollars and borrowing all the money for that, in any way responsible? But hey, party hearty while you can, right? That's the liberal way. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, 'to purchase' a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ---Ben Franklin
Don't come on here saying borrowing good money after bad is to "improve the United States." That's a Liberal/Keynesian lie that history has shown to shipwreck economy after economy over time. In the 20th Century and first quarter of the 21st, America has led world economics. But to a liberal's mind that isn't good enough. Not everybody can live in a glorious house and drive a luxury car. They certainly didn't during our heyday and as good sense dictates, never will. That stuff takes money and most people can't come up with enough to do so. And not that amassing material things could ever bring about a satisfied mind anyway, [RE Johnnie Cash "Satisfied Mind"]
But giving people stuff has only created more unrest. Or have the riots beginning in the Obama era escaped your notice?
And dare I mention the fact that the US economy under Trump was soaring? Goods, beef, energy and school bus drivers were plentiful. Now all that soars are the COVID infection rate and the exponential numbers of illegal aliens flooding in. The Lord's coming object lesson has this land, has us, increasingly painted into a corner; but in your blinded eyes happy days are here again.
Trump made these bills.
except 2020. No bus drivers that year. You forget who was President then,TRT?
Hoot used that Franklin quote incorrectly before. Maybe you need to look up what it means. not what you think.
Covid infection rate of the unvaccinated which tends to be Republican, so you need to punch yourselves in the face on that.
I certainly did not forget your fact twisting revisions I can tell you that. "Fifteen days to slow the spread," I remember that. But thanks to the Dems who got to the party 6 months late, the time frame morphed into 15 months and growing at least up through next election season. But now 8 months after Trump's promise of a viable vaccine having been delivered, which BTW morphed immediately into lo these 3 vaccines; thanks to Democrat governors who went clinical fanning CV-19 fears, the school bus drivers who were laid off went to the UPS and the like, and are not about to give up their new jobs.
I have the application for the quote exactly right. Just a different threat. I didn't expect you to understand, it was used more for the free thinkers. Without out fail, you lie every time you post. The Dem base is toast without black voters, 87% of which all identify as Democrat. THE HILL -- "Among those vaccinated whose race is known, 58 percent are white and 10 percent are Black." https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/5...vaccinated
Blacks might not trust the vaccine because Democrats lied their heads off about it back in 2020. And then tried and failed to take credit for the vaccine even while uncle Joe et-al were insisting on getting it for themselves.
Damn what a circuitous post. That’s worse than a Tucker monologue.
it took more than 15 days because Trump had his thumb up his rear for 3 months. You saw the thumb it was right beside your face
bus drivers figured out these school supt were jacking them around. Why would they come back? Capitalism, right !!
no, you don’t. Franklin was talking about folks who won’t pay their taxes that support their protection. You haven’t been a free thinker yet.
Blacks don’t trust the vaccine because the way our nation has experimented on them. Another example of structural racism your side says doesn’t exist.
I’d like to see the folks who have all the advantages to show those who are disadvantaged that public health is safe, but one side wants their FREEDUMBS.
Are you just yammering? TRT, you are vaccinated. You encourage folks to get vaccinated. The vaccine was a modern marvel. I don’t know what the Trump admin did to make the vaccine come to fruition but they undercut it when Trump didn’t push it. He extended this pandemic in this nation another 10-12 months. He’s an sob for that.
(09-22-2021, 08:00 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 05:54 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 05:15 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 04:11 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2021, 05:23 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]More than evidence Republicans have zero interest in improving the United States.
They helped make these bills and don’t want to pay for them. The new spending hasn’t even passed.
Here's a little news flash for you on basic economics. Borrowing money is not paying bills, it is making more bills. So if one cannot pay his bills in the first place, how is increasing spending 6 Trillion dollars and borrowing all the money for that, in any way responsible? But hey, party hearty while you can, right? That's the liberal way. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, 'to purchase' a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ---Ben Franklin
Don't come on here saying borrowing good money after bad is to "improve the United States." That's a Liberal/Keynesian lie that history has shown to shipwreck economy after economy over time. In the 20th Century and first quarter of the 21st, America has led world economics. But to a liberal's mind that isn't good enough. Not everybody can live in a glorious house and drive a luxury car. They certainly didn't during our heyday and as good sense dictates, never will. That stuff takes money and most people can't come up with enough to do so. And not that amassing material things could ever bring about a satisfied mind anyway, [RE Johnnie Cash "Satisfied Mind"]
But giving people stuff has only created more unrest. Or have the riots beginning in the Obama era escaped your notice?
And dare I mention the fact that the US economy under Trump was soaring? Goods, beef, energy and school bus drivers were plentiful. Now all that soars are the COVID infection rate and the exponential numbers of illegal aliens flooding in. The Lord's coming object lesson has this land, has us, increasingly painted into a corner; but in your blinded eyes happy days are here again.
Trump made these bills.
except 2020. No bus drivers that year. You forget who was President then,TRT?
Hoot used that Franklin quote incorrectly before. Maybe you need to look up what it means. not what you think.
Covid infection rate of the unvaccinated which tends to be Republican, so you need to punch yourselves in the face on that.
I certainly did not forget your fact twisting revisions I can tell you that. "Fifteen days to slow the spread," I remember that. But thanks to the Dems who got to the party 6 months late, the time frame morphed into 15 months and growing at least up through next election season. But now 8 months after Trump's promise of a viable vaccine having been delivered, which BTW morphed immediately into lo these 3 vaccines; thanks to Democrat governors who went clinical fanning CV-19 fears, the school bus drivers who were laid off went to the UPS and the like, and are not about to give up their new jobs.
I have the application for the quote exactly right. Just a different threat. I didn't expect you to understand, it was used more for the free thinkers. Without out fail, you lie every time you post. The Dem base is toast without black voters, 87% of which all identify as Democrat. THE HILL -- "Among those vaccinated whose race is known, 58 percent are white and 10 percent are Black." https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/5...vaccinated
Blacks might not trust the vaccine because Democrats lied their heads off about it back in 2020. And then tried and failed to take credit for the vaccine even while uncle Joe et-al were insisting on getting it for themselves.
Damn what a circuitous post. That’s worse than a Tucker monologue.
it took more than 15 days because Trump had his thumb up his rear for 3 months. You saw the thumb it was right beside your face
bus drivers figured out these school supt were jacking them around. Why would they come back? Capitalism, right !!
no, you don’t. Franklin was talking about folks who won’t pay their taxes that support their protection. You haven’t been a free thinker yet.
Blacks don’t trust the vaccine because the way our nation has experimented on them. Another example of structural racism your side says doesn’t exist.
I’d like to see the folks who have all the advantages to show those who are disadvantaged that public health is safe, but one side wants their FREEDUMBS.
Are you just yammering? TRT, you are vaccinated. You encourage folks to get vaccinated. The vaccine was a modern marvel. I don’t know what the Trump admin did to make the vaccine come to fruition but they undercut it when Trump didn’t push it. He extended this pandemic in this nation another 10-12 months. He’s an sob for that.
That's a good one "Y
ou saw the thumb it was right beside your face" You just left out Hoot and Jet
If Trump got the vaccine TRT did also by the Trickle Down Method
(09-22-2021, 08:00 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 05:54 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 05:15 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 04:11 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-21-2021, 05:23 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ]More than evidence Republicans have zero interest in improving the United States.
They helped make these bills and don’t want to pay for them. The new spending hasn’t even passed.
Here's a little news flash for you on basic economics. Borrowing money is not paying bills, it is making more bills. So if one cannot pay his bills in the first place, how is increasing spending 6 Trillion dollars and borrowing all the money for that, in any way responsible? But hey, party hearty while you can, right? That's the liberal way. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, 'to purchase' a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ---Ben Franklin
Don't come on here saying borrowing good money after bad is to "improve the United States." That's a Liberal/Keynesian lie that history has shown to shipwreck economy after economy over time. In the 20th Century and first quarter of the 21st, America has led world economics. But to a liberal's mind that isn't good enough. Not everybody can live in a glorious house and drive a luxury car. They certainly didn't during our heyday and as good sense dictates, never will. That stuff takes money and most people can't come up with enough to do so. And not that amassing material things could ever bring about a satisfied mind anyway, [RE Johnnie Cash "Satisfied Mind"]
But giving people stuff has only created more unrest. Or have the riots beginning in the Obama era escaped your notice?
And dare I mention the fact that the US economy under Trump was soaring? Goods, beef, energy and school bus drivers were plentiful. Now all that soars are the COVID infection rate and the exponential numbers of illegal aliens flooding in. The Lord's coming object lesson has this land, has us, increasingly painted into a corner; but in your blinded eyes happy days are here again.
Trump made these bills.
except 2020. No bus drivers that year. You forget who was President then,TRT?
Hoot used that Franklin quote incorrectly before. Maybe you need to look up what it means. not what you think.
Covid infection rate of the unvaccinated which tends to be Republican, so you need to punch yourselves in the face on that.
I certainly did not forget your fact twisting revisions I can tell you that. "Fifteen days to slow the spread," I remember that. But thanks to the Dems who got to the party 6 months late, the time frame morphed into 15 months and growing at least up through next election season. But now 8 months after Trump's promise of a viable vaccine having been delivered, which BTW morphed immediately into lo these 3 vaccines; thanks to Democrat governors who went clinical fanning CV-19 fears, the school bus drivers who were laid off went to the UPS and the like, and are not about to give up their new jobs.
I have the application for the quote exactly right. Just a different threat. I didn't expect you to understand, it was used more for the free thinkers. Without out fail, you lie every time you post. The Dem base is toast without black voters, 87% of which all identify as Democrat. THE HILL -- "Among those vaccinated whose race is known, 58 percent are white and 10 percent are Black." https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/5...vaccinated
Blacks might not trust the vaccine because Democrats lied their heads off about it back in 2020. And then tried and failed to take credit for the vaccine even while uncle Joe et-al were insisting on getting it for themselves.
Damn what a circuitous post. That’s worse than a Tucker monologue.
it took more than 15 days because Trump had his thumb up his rear for 3 months. You saw the thumb it was right beside your face
bus drivers figured out these school supt were jacking them around. Why would they come back? Capitalism, right !!
no, you don’t. Franklin was talking about folks who won’t pay their taxes that support their protection. You haven’t been a free thinker yet.
Blacks don’t trust the vaccine because the way our nation has experimented on them. Another example of structural racism your side says doesn’t exist.
I’d like to see the folks who have all the advantages to show those who are disadvantaged that public health is safe, but one side wants their FREEDUMBS.
Are you just yammering? TRT, you are vaccinated. You encourage folks to get vaccinated. The vaccine was a modern marvel. I don’t know what the Trump admin did to make the vaccine come to fruition but they undercut it when Trump didn’t push it. He extended this pandemic in this nation another 10-12 months. He’s an sob for that.
You are a superior liar. Not in quality, but in quantity. And unlike you, I don't have to look this stuff up. Franklin was talking about a certain aristocracy buying favor with the Pennsylvania legislature if memory serves. Major land owners, they bought off influential legislators in order to curry favor on their behalf. I don't need any history refreshers from a guy whose party has done the same thing to the entire nation.
I'm expecting an approval of a stop gap spending plan to avoid a shutdown, but no new debt ceiling measure. This should alleviate some of the financial damage, although you may still want to move some of your 401K to something very conservative because the markets will drop considerably.
(09-23-2021, 07:25 PM)The Outsider Wrote: [ -> ]I'm expecting an approval of a stop gap spending plan to avoid a shutdown, but no new debt ceiling measure. This should alleviate some of the financial damage, although you may still want to move some of your 401K to something very conservative because the markets will drop considerably.
If it was me I would call Mitch's bluff let it sink
(09-23-2021, 09:23 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2021, 08:55 PM)vector#1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2021, 07:25 PM)The Outsider Wrote: [ -> ]I'm expecting an approval of a stop gap spending plan to avoid a shutdown, but no new debt ceiling measure. This should alleviate some of the financial damage, although you may still want to move some of your 401K to something very conservative because the markets will drop considerably.
If it was me I would call Mitch's bluff let it sink
(Posted by mistake.)
Hoot here some more good news for you looks like you are getting a bump up in pay even though 113 republicans voted against it. 5% more than last year $768 billion
House passes $768 billion defense spending bill, despite GOP opposition (msn.com)
(09-22-2021, 10:39 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 08:00 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 05:54 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 05:15 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-22-2021, 04:11 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: [ -> ]Here's a little news flash for you on basic economics. Borrowing money is not paying bills, it is making more bills. So if one cannot pay his bills in the first place, how is increasing spending 6 Trillion dollars and borrowing all the money for that, in any way responsible? But hey, party hearty while you can, right? That's the liberal way. "Those who would give up essential Liberty, 'to purchase' a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ---Ben Franklin
Don't come on here saying borrowing good money after bad is to "improve the United States." That's a Liberal/Keynesian lie that history has shown to shipwreck economy after economy over time. In the 20th Century and first quarter of the 21st, America has led world economics. But to a liberal's mind that isn't good enough. Not everybody can live in a glorious house and drive a luxury car. They certainly didn't during our heyday and as good sense dictates, never will. That stuff takes money and most people can't come up with enough to do so. And not that amassing material things could ever bring about a satisfied mind anyway, [RE Johnnie Cash "Satisfied Mind"]
But giving people stuff has only created more unrest. Or have the riots beginning in the Obama era escaped your notice?
And dare I mention the fact that the US economy under Trump was soaring? Goods, beef, energy and school bus drivers were plentiful. Now all that soars are the COVID infection rate and the exponential numbers of illegal aliens flooding in. The Lord's coming object lesson has this land, has us, increasingly painted into a corner; but in your blinded eyes happy days are here again.
Trump made these bills.
except 2020. No bus drivers that year. You forget who was President then,TRT?
Hoot used that Franklin quote incorrectly before. Maybe you need to look up what it means. not what you think.
Covid infection rate of the unvaccinated which tends to be Republican, so you need to punch yourselves in the face on that.
I certainly did not forget your fact twisting revisions I can tell you that. "Fifteen days to slow the spread," I remember that. But thanks to the Dems who got to the party 6 months late, the time frame morphed into 15 months and growing at least up through next election season. But now 8 months after Trump's promise of a viable vaccine having been delivered, which BTW morphed immediately into lo these 3 vaccines; thanks to Democrat governors who went clinical fanning CV-19 fears, the school bus drivers who were laid off went to the UPS and the like, and are not about to give up their new jobs.
I have the application for the quote exactly right. Just a different threat. I didn't expect you to understand, it was used more for the free thinkers. Without out fail, you lie every time you post. The Dem base is toast without black voters, 87% of which all identify as Democrat. THE HILL -- "Among those vaccinated whose race is known, 58 percent are white and 10 percent are Black." https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/5...vaccinated
Blacks might not trust the vaccine because Democrats lied their heads off about it back in 2020. And then tried and failed to take credit for the vaccine even while uncle Joe et-al were insisting on getting it for themselves.
Damn what a circuitous post. That’s worse than a Tucker monologue.
it took more than 15 days because Trump had his thumb up his rear for 3 months. You saw the thumb it was right beside your face
bus drivers figured out these school supt were jacking them around. Why would they come back? Capitalism, right !!
no, you don’t. Franklin was talking about folks who won’t pay their taxes that support their protection. You haven’t been a free thinker yet.
Blacks don’t trust the vaccine because the way our nation has experimented on them. Another example of structural racism your side says doesn’t exist.
I’d like to see the folks who have all the advantages to show those who are disadvantaged that public health is safe, but one side wants their FREEDUMBS.
Are you just yammering? TRT, you are vaccinated. You encourage folks to get vaccinated. The vaccine was a modern marvel. I don’t know what the Trump admin did to make the vaccine come to fruition but they undercut it when Trump didn’t push it. He extended this pandemic in this nation another 10-12 months. He’s an sob for that.
You are a superior liar. Not in quality, but in quantity. And unlike you, I don't have to look this stuff up. Franklin was talking about a certain aristocracy buying favor with the Pennsylvania legislature if memory serves. Major land owners, they bought off influential legislators in order to curry favor on their behalf. I don't need any history refreshers from a guy whose party has done the same thing to the entire nation.
yes, they didn't want to pay taxes. They were bribing the legislature to say they didn't have the authority to tax the Penn family.
"It is a quotation that defends the authority of a legislature to govern in the interests of collective security. " We have had this discussion on here before and you were wrong then.
Republicans are doing exactly what Franklin is griping about.